Open 566: Murder on the Oriental Express (Game Over)

[Riddleton]

If he's scum, he's literally relying solely upon WIFOM to stop his lynch.

There's at least one more likely candidate for today - myself - that he could probably convince at least Titus to join over Riddle, to add to his and farside's votes.

Well, yeah, that's what I've been saying with CKD pulling the hardcore "please don't lynch me" stuff.

Like, it's a pretty bad scum strategy.

We had a discussion earlier about scum play, that I recall. Just because action XYZ isn't

optimal

scum behaviour doesn't mean it;s

impossible

scum behaviour.

The last time I witnessed scum do this, it was a similar situation. It was a scum win because he managed to WiFOM himself out of a lynch like CKD is doing.

[Green Crayons]

That's true. But then there's suboptimal scum play, and then there's just really bad play.

(shrug)

I guess this would be the logical conclusion of the tactic he has adopted.

[curiouskarmadog]

oh lets be clear here..if I ever get into this situation in future and I am actually scum...I am going to try this same thing.

[farside22]

I'd like to here from cbd today. He's been pretty Mia today.
Of course I notice GC doesn't call him on this.
I wonder why?

[Green Crayons]

That's not even a thing.

Holy crap you're just making stuff up.

[Green Crayons]

I remembered this this morning.

Here is farside repeatedly egging me on to vote Amy from yesterday:

23hours left. It's either going to be GC or CKD today. The people whom have their votes parked in other slots should move.

Well this is a bit delusional.


I'll switch to CDB if necessary, but I'd prefer a farside. CKD only as a last resort to avoid a no lynch.

Why does amy get a pass for just sheeping your read?

You realize there is literally little to no interaction between her and scramble?

Why is cbd a scum read?

It really boggles my mind that Beli's really shitty push against farside has made her immune from suspicion from most of the town, even as she has become essentially a nonentity surpassing even Amy in this game.

I'm going to just put you on ignore at this point.

It seems your okay with Amy's non expressive behavoir during the scrambles lynch, but when I state a v/la during most of this day it's scummy.
Your double standards on players is very much a peeve.

And then farside comes into the thread today and acts completely bewildered why I would vote Amy.

Jesus Mary and Joseph talk about scummy.

[Green Crayons]

I'd like to here from cbd today. He's been pretty Mia today.
Of course I notice GC doesn't call him on this.
I wonder why?

You can replace "GC" with any other player and actually be more accurate than the lie farside just typed.

Nobody

has mentioned CDB's absence from the thread

except for me, who referenced CDB's lack of posting

, in Post 2310.

[Green Crayons]

This isn't fucking illogical at all. I stated a town read on CKD and I know I'm town. Therefore setting up mislynches. I could be wrong about CKD but when you keep voting me and then vote the next biggest fucking wagon I seriously doubt that town read on CKD.

And here's further scum logic. "You think Player X and Player Y are scum candidates. I think Player X and Player Y are town. You must therefore be scum setting up mislynches!"

This surface-level logic - refusing to consider and weigh the basis for a player's suspicions - is a great scum template, because it can be applied to anyone! Examples:

1) farside thinks GC and Titus are scum candidates. I think GC and Titus are town. Therefore farside must be scum, setting up mislynches!
2) Riddle thinks CKD and GC are scum candidates. I think CKD and GC are town. Therefore Riddle must be scum, setting up mislynches!
3) CKD thinks GC and CBD (I think?) are scum candidates. I think GC and CBD are town. Therefore CKD must be scum, setting up mislynches!

[curiouskarmadog]

mod prod titus.

[farside22]

I'd like to here from cbd today. He's been pretty Mia today.
Of course I notice GC doesn't call him on this.
I wonder why?

You can replace "GC" with any other player and actually be more accurate than the lie farside just typed.

Nobody

has mentioned CDB's absence from the thread

except for me, who referenced CDB's lack of posting

, in Post 2310.

Oh yes that completely reads like the shit you game me for 2 game days.

Oh wait no it doesn't.

Point farside.

[farside22]

I remembered this this morning.

Here is farside repeatedly egging me on to vote Amy from yesterday:

23hours left. It's either going to be GC or CKD today. The people whom have their votes parked in other slots should move.

Well this is a bit delusional.


I'll switch to CDB if necessary, but I'd prefer a farside. CKD only as a last resort to avoid a no lynch.

Why does amy get a pass for just sheeping your read?

You realize there is literally little to no interaction between her and scramble?

Why is cbd a scum read?

It really boggles my mind that Beli's really shitty push against farside has made her immune from suspicion from most of the town, even as she has become essentially a nonentity surpassing even Amy in this game.

I'm going to just put you on ignore at this point.

It seems your okay with Amy's non expressive behavoir during the scrambles lynch, but when I state a v/la during most of this day it's scummy.
Your double standards on players is very much a peeve.

And then farside comes into the thread today and acts completely bewildered why I would vote Amy.

Jesus Mary and Joseph talk about scummy.

I asked you that because you repeatedly pointed out my lack of comments and catch up as scummy.
REPEATEDLY!
So yes I'm going to ask you about your vote on me vs someone I see doing the same fucking thing.

[farside22]

So, Riddle, is CKD putting himself at L-1 still part of his gambit?

If he's scum, he's literally relying solely upon WIFOM to stop his lynch. There's at least one more likely candidate for today - myself - that he could probably convince at least Titus to join over Riddle, to add to his and farside's votes.

Like, it's a pretty bad scum strategy.

For anyone freeking reading this.
Tell me why GC is voting CKD when he clearly reads in this post that CKD'so action don't read scummy.

[Green Crayons]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand I'm done conversing with farside.



She's either scum or we're talking past each other.

[curiouskarmadog]

lol

this might be the weirdest game of mafia I have played in awhile.

[curiouskarmadog]

Riddle if you do end up

being scum, well played.

Thanks CKD

. I just hope I can rely on someone to vote, like, GC or Titus in LyLo.

also, if this ends up being a stupid slip, I might just quit for good.

[curiouskarmadog]

The last time I witnessed scum do this, it was a similar situation. It was a scum win because he managed to WiFOM himself out of a lynch like CKD is doing.

and since I havent been hammered yet. for shits and giggles, provide that game link that is giving you that point of reference.

[curiouskarmadog]

because you know,

Lynch all Liars

and all that.

I wouldnt be helping if I didnt ask.

[farside22]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand I'm done conversing with farside.



She's either scum or we're talking past each other.

This is not a conversation.
Your making a statement against me and I defend myself.
You acted like I goaded your vote on amy.
Where the fuck that came from now vs prior when I mentioned it is beyond my understanding.
Are you not accountable for your actions? Your vote on ckd sure as shit is not by my doing, but for you to lynch me if CKD is town. Everything I read today and yesterday shows no apparent scum read on CKD.
Tell me how I'm wrong.

[farside22]

CKD: do you see where GC believes you are scum?

[curiouskarmadog]

well he knows for a fact he is town.

[curiouskarmadog]

I dont know. his vote is on me..soo. if he was scum, I dont know why he would be questioning riddle about his vote on me. unless he was planning on taking riddle to lylo and he wanted to look towney before my lynch. a "i didnt really want to to lycnh CKDtown, but.." kind of play.

the main issue with this game...is we have two people who are not posting and we REALLY need everybody here.

[curiouskarmadog]

actually...

boom

unvote.

had that chance to hammer

titus...CDB...time to quit hiding...come in here and post a lot of shit has gone down please comment.

[curiouskarmadog]

unvote.

[Green Crayons]

Hey there is this thing where you can read a player's posts in isolation and then you can do this other thing where you can search a website by word, and so if you were to hypothetically put together these two modern marvels of technology, you could read all of my posts and search for the word "CKD" and you would see my thought process about CKD, including the reasons why I think he is a scum candidate, just not the most likely to be scum.


So, lol, go fly a kite farside.

You can keep just making stuff up ("GC is claiming he isn't accountable for his actions," "GC had no basis for his Amy vote," "GC has no basis for his CKD vote"), but no matter how often or insistently you repeat them, they are still made up taglines.

[curiouskarmadog]

hey GC...question.

why didnt farsidescum hammer me?

she could have easily done so without much comment. killed you tonight..and whoever else she deemed a threat after the no lynch.

soooo? whats up with that?