Open 577: Hope Plus One! (GAME OVER - SCUM WIN)

[Rudolph the Reindeer]

Well your House head agreed with a post that GGG made and that's

bad

, apparently. Not convinced? Neither am I but Acryon seems to be since he throws down your vote right after saying "that's so easy!".

[Cane + Able]

For reference, do you guys want me to include a frequent/organized spoiler with every post of mine entailed? I can do that if it'd help.

[Cane + Able]

- Wake

[Cane + Able]

There's a player here named GGG? Since when?

[Rudolph the Reindeer]

I'm quite interested in your current reads, when you're finished catching up, Wake.

[Rudolph the Reindeer]

GGG replaced Newbie

[Cane + Able]

- Wake

Yes, I'm that tired.

[Cane + Able]

I'm quite interested in your current reads, when you're finished catching up, Wake.

GGG replaced Newbie

Alright.

Tomorrow is an off day.

I think I should sleep first.

Goodnight, folks.

[Aneninen]

We are missing 4 of 13 players? NRG, Gravity, Cultivation, & Blindme. Are we waiting for that many replacements?
I've only been halfheartedly lurking. It's hard to get very interested in a game where a third of the players are AWOL.

vote: GGG

my WAG for scum

In theory, not all of them are to be replaced.

Mod, how many replacements do we need now?

Back to TexCat, why the vote? Do you have a case? Does it have anything to do which the fact that I just unvoted him in the previous post?

These guys aren't lurkers they are just inactive.
If we have to deal with them I would suggest lynching NRG today. He is the scummiest of the inactives with his antigravity meta reads in 191.

And you know they're inactive because... ?
By the way, why is NRG the scummiest?

Lynching inactive/lurkers is bad play.

However, pressurizing an inactive slot is not a bad idea, in my opinion. It's a way to check whether they're lurking or inactive. However, I don't think it would work now; as far as I can remember NRG and BMWS are getting replaced while Gravity and CT have been generally inactive on the site for ages.

[Cane + Able]

Aneninen I

(14) | (21) | (23) | (160) | (176) | (213) | (230) | (290) | (293) | (312) | (315) | (343) | (360) | (379) | (389) | (394) | (418) | (425) | (426) | (429) | (443) | (461)

What We Know

Wanted to join a townbloc in 21. In 160 states he was 'just joking.' Mentions that Pastro's ban was null (176). No Scum meta (213). Also in that post asks aloud if he's the only one who thinks it's strange to get solid reads so early. Mentions he's too slow in most of his games (230), and responds to Rudolph's 214 about early reads that, in the initial phase, he uses 'could-s, may-s, and might-s.' Provided reads in that post, too. He gives a misplaced response (290), '(3) I've never told that I'd like to policy lynch her! You're misrepresenting me,' in response to Constantine's 233. Voted for acryon in 461.

How I'm Reading This

Firstly, and with all due respect, some of your posts are way too big and convoluted. Information overload is a common pitfall in Mafia. Too much info causes confusion, frustration, and apathy. I glossed over the walls. A better practice is to provide a central focus to each post. Players will like you if you do that. If posts, to me, feel like they're droning and/or convoluted, I'll skim over it and wait for something valuable.

I didn't like how you wanted to join a townbloc in 21, but since you said you were joking in 160 I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. I did like how you mention Pastro's ban was null in spite of what acryon was implying, and your exchange with Rudolph on how one can develop reads so early in the game. You did seem to imply that you have no Scum games here. The last person who said that, Boonskiies, hoodwinked me in Mini 1609. Because of that experience I am unwilling to take that bit off the table and out of my eyesight. I'm not scumreading how you say you're too slow in your games, but I'm not townreading it, either. Your responses to Rudy about the initial phase seemed rather cautious, but it's also common sense to use those qualifiers when you're not sure where people stand so early in the game. I did not read your reads list because of the styling and formatting. You should do reads in their own posts, and find ways to differentiate and tighten focus within them. At a cursory glance Constantine didn't misrepresent you, because he was making a general comment of his own opinion. That you responded that way sort of irks my gut, and does make me wonder just a bit why you'd do that. Then again it was probably just a simple mistake. Are you sheeping on Acryon's wagon in 461?

Who are your top three Scumspects, and which one of them would you lynch today and why?

Where The Player Stands

Glossing over the convoluted parts, I have him as very Slightly-Town, and this is pending how he responds to this post. There are questions and comments within this post that I'd like him to respond to, so I can better understand his alignment. If he works on the way he makes his posts, he'd make me more receptive to what he says.

[Mathdino]

Wait shit are you doing this with everyone?

How's that not information overload?

[Cane + Able]

Wait shit are you doing this with everyone?

How's that not information overload?

It's not information overload if you're giving a focused read on each player, occasionally.

IO is when you post walls and walls of opinion without much of a focus. It turns players off.

[GGG]

And you know they're inactive because... ?
By the way, why is NRG the scummiest?

CT hasn't posted in 11 days gravity in 10 days. Neither have said they are V/LA. Ergo inactive seems to be the correct word to describe them. Why are you making a passive aggressive attack instead of just coming out and saying what you are accusing me of.

NRGs meta read on gravity is a huge reach. BMWS and CT are solid nulls. You could make an argument around gravity if you buy nrgs meta read. I don't therefore NRG is the scummiest.

[Aneninen]

Uhh, GGG, ignore that part, sorry!
I too decided to check their site activity and I noticed the very same thing. I had simply forgot to edit my own post according to that piece of information before I submitted it.

[Aneninen]

Wow, C+A, you know more about my posts now than I know! ^_^

Some remarks and answers:
– I know that my posts are too long but these are MUCH shorter than my posts were in some of my early games. I'm working on this thing.
– At that point I had no scum meta. Now I can show you my only scum game if you're interested in it.
– Do you mention mistakes? Well, there are some and as I notice them I correct myself. You can see plenty of examples for that in my meta.
– My vote was a sheep indeed. Sheep say baaa. ^_^
– As for my scumreads. The strongest one is GGG (reasons are posted before), I'd lynch him but I don't think it will happen. BMWS might be scum too but that slot is under replacement. Acryon is the third-most-scummy, and I must admit, I merely agree with others' cases (mostly Rudolph's). Also, keep in mind that I'm not too confident about my reads right now, since four players are missing. TexCat has provided very little content so far. Earlier she gave me town-vibes but her recent two posts disturbed me... right now it's only an intuition that something's not right there.

Will you do such a detailed post about everyone? If so, why did you start with me? If not, why did you pick me?

[Wake1]

Wow, C+A, you know more about my posts now than I know! ^_^

Some remarks and answers:
– I know that my posts are too long but these are MUCH shorter than my posts were in some of my early games. I'm working on this thing.
– At that point I had no scum meta. Now I can show you my only scum game if you're interested in it.
– Do you mention mistakes? Well, there are some and as I notice them I correct myself. You can see plenty of examples for that in my meta.
– My vote was a sheep indeed. Sheep say baaa. ^_^
– As for my scumreads. The strongest one is GGG (reasons are posted before), I'd lynch him but I don't think it will happen. BMWS might be scum too but that slot is under replacement. Acryon is the third-most-scummy, and I must admit, I merely agree with others' cases (mostly Rudolph's). Also, keep in mind that I'm not too confident about my reads right now, since four players are missing. TexCat has provided very little content so far. Earlier she gave me town-vibes but her recent two posts disturbed me... right now it's only an intuition that something's not right there.

Will you do such a detailed post about everyone? If so, why did you start with me? If not, why did you pick me?

– That is a good thing.
– Yes, please.
– To err is to be human.
– I turn sheep into veal.
– Looking into those reasons. Do you think texcat is lurking?
– Indeed, as time and energy allows.. Random.org/list.

- Wake

[Cane + Able]

Yes, I can make mistakes, too.

- Wake

[Aneninen]

– Not good enough, in my opinion
– http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=59471
– Indeed.
– I'm a vegetarian, sorry.
– I don't know. Her general site-activity is a null for answering the questions.
– That's good.

[GGG]

– That is a good thing.
– Yes, please.
– To err is to be human.
– I turn sheep into veal.
– Looking into those reasons. Do you think texcat is lurking?
– Indeed, as time and energy allows.. Random.org/list.

- Wake

Why are you using random.org as opposed to choosing. This looks like trying avoid taking responsibility for who you are doing deep analysis on. It allows you to stay on the outside avoiding more important people to read.

[GGG]

@mod. Are the hydra heads allowed to communicate with eachother outside the thread?

[Cane + Able]

– That is a good thing.
– Yes, please.
– To err is to be human.
– I turn sheep into veal.
– Looking into those reasons. Do you think texcat is lurking?
– Indeed, as time and energy allows.. Random.org/list.

- Wake

Why are you using random.org as opposed to choosing. This looks like trying avoid taking responsibility for who you are doing deep analysis on. It allows you to stay on the outside avoiding more important people to read.

Considering he hasn't been active for a while, that is hardly surprising. At least he is contributing something productive.

Take your negative bullshit elsewhere and push around the fluff posters.

- House

[Cane + Able]

@mod. Are the hydra heads allowed to communicate with eachother outside the thread?

Our you could, you know, ask the hydra.

- House

[Mathdino]

Did Liam Neeson play you in the Lego Movie?

[GGG]

@mod. Are the hydra heads allowed to communicate with eachother outside the thread?

Our you could, you know, ask the hydra.

- House

What the fuck house.

Post 468 you want me to ask the mods about rules now it's ask the hydra. Make up your mind and quit being a dick. Also you might have well just answered the question instead of giving a passive aggressive response. If you would like me to ask

Are you and wake allowed to comunicate with eachother outside the thread.

[GGG]

– That is a good thing.
– Yes, please.
– To err is to be human.
– I turn sheep into veal.
– Looking into those reasons. Do you think texcat is lurking?
– Indeed, as time and energy allows.. Random.org/list.

- Wake

Why are you using random.org as opposed to choosing. This looks like trying avoid taking responsibility for who you are doing deep analysis on. It allows you to stay on the outside avoiding more important people to read.

Considering he hasn't been active for a while, that is hardly surprising. At least he is contributing something productive.

Take your negative bullshit elsewhere and push around the fluff posters.

- House

Don't understand this response at all. Why would not being active be a reason to use random.org. Also outside my first I am being productive. I am the only one trying to prevent us from lynching arcynon.