LoL eSports Discussion

[Lady Lambdadelta]

People need to calm the fuck down.

Keith, you're being too brash and it's not necessary to tear someone down like that. Yes, it's your opinion about their product or service provided (on a similar level to a twitch stream, or giantbomb, or any other subscription/donation entertainment) but there are more constructive ways to say you find someone's product unappealing.

Ani, you're being equally as bad as Keith here. Stirring up the shit is not good posting. Stop it.

Zor, I agree he's being too brash, but saying shit like "even for you that's low" isn't going to engage him in a civil conversation about critique and what levels are correct in what mediums. It's only going to cause a fucking fight. And if you're LOOKING for that, then by all means let me stand out of you way. But that's more of a low blow than anything he said in his original post, even if it WAS essentially "write better".

Quadz, keep being a cool dude.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

What should I do, Quadz? He specifically said the article was supposed to be a sample of the quality we should expect if they went full time. It was... uninspiring. If I were him, I would not launch a kickstarter with that as the sample article. Am I saying that his writing is the rhetorical equivalent of colon cancer? No. I'm saying that jokes

need to be jokes

. You can't just reference a bunch of memes and call it a day. I guess I could just kind of ignore it, which would be the polite thing, but I don't think that would explain exactly why I have no intention of donating on Kickstarter based on the quality of the article posted. Given the amount of money I've spent on Kicks (probably around $1,000 at this point), feedback from me is extremely relevant feedback. I'm the target audience. I like esports, spend money on kickstarters, and back things I want to see continue. The pitch was poor. Period.

PEdit: Actually Zor, I said that you need jokes to have a punchline. You can't just say "Remember when Riot promised a replay system and didn't release it?"

cue laughtrack

. Humor needs to have zing to it. It needs to have a bite of some kind, it needs incongruity, it needs to be more than just a collection of references (DAE know Koreans are good at E-Sports?). I linked to an article that did what his article wanted to do - and did it extremely well. That is exactly the definition of constructive criticism.

Also, I didn't call him a jackass, and I truly resent the statement (not even implication - it's just a straight statement) that I did. Even if I considered someone a miserable writer incapable of stringing three words together (and if I really thought someone that, I'd offer no feedback at all), that wouldn't make them a jackass. Someone who invents imaginary motives to attack other people and sticks words in their mouth because of a personal grudge, that might be a jackass.

Stop it, please. If you won't listen to anyone else, listen to me. This is unnecessary. You made your point and feelings about the article clear. At this point you're only adding fuel to a useless fire. Stop.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like things have gone seriously wrong when the mediating voice has to be me. I'm like the least fucking calm person on the planet.

[quadz08]

<3 LLD

[BROseidon]

Yeah wtf why is LLD mediating shit.

Three tips:

1) Don't give unprompted feedback to people unless you are their manager at work
2) Give feedback in a way that's constructive
3) Don't escalate when people are being dicks; try to deescalate.

It's also funny that this shit is coming from me given how easily I'll go off on people and how snarky I get.

[pickemgenius]

How can anyone root for Tsm? They're just a team with good solo queue players but no strategy. Go C9

oh and anyone criticizing GI for criticizing something makes me unbelievably sad. at no point was anything done wrong or maliciously, and to see people trying to make an issue out of it is just crazy.

that's all for that.



-tsm

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Yeah wtf why is LLD mediating shit.

Hey! You can't say that! Only I'm allowed to make fun of me! /pout

(On a serious note though, I was kinda half joking. I do get stupid passionate about things really easily (see: Mafia), but I'm good at mediating situations! Really!

no one is gonna believe me... ;-;

)

[Cabd]

I'm pretty amused to see Morgana being the lulu of this split in Korea. Support, Mid, Top... Half expecting some crazy jungle Morgana to come out of nowhere.

[Iecerint]

I'm a little weirded out by Tristana getting picked. I didn't think she was that dominant in Korea even before the AS nerfs.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

So, fantasy LCS is returning next week.

http://na.lolesports.com/articles/fanta ... -next-week

Anyone doing an MS league again?

[quadz08]

I'm in

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I'm willing to jump in

[Iecerint]

I will do it. I really enjoyed it last time.

[animorpherv1]

willing to join.

[dramonic]

/IN

[zoraster]

i'm in

[Iecerint]

i'm in

^_^

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

So if the rules are all still the same, I believe it's max 8 people per league, and we all have to be on at the same time to draft (otherwise if you're not there the system just auto drafts for you).

So we can try to pick a time when we're all free sometime in the next 2 weeks? (IIRC the draft doesn't take more than an hour or so?)

[quadz08]

Last year it took ~ an hour, yeah

[zoraster]

we should have a separate thread for it, right? We might have more than 1 league's worth.

[Nexus]

/in

[zoraster]

Sign Up for LCS Fantasy League Today

I've included the people who have already expressed interest.

I haven't done this before, so if anyone has suggestions for how it should operate, let me know. I'm just taking it on because I like organizing things.

[zoraster]

Last call for LCS Fantasy: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p6523754 Last call!

[GreyICE]

By the by, since I'm being fucking fair: http://esportsexpress.com/2015/01/elemental-origins/

This is how you do parody. Balls to the wall, no prisoners taken, don't explain the jokes (well except the byline, but that's fine).

[dramonic]

... was that supposed to be amusing?