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Post Post #125 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:42 am

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I have a light scum read on ++--, but I can't really put my finger on why.

I have no read on Dry-Fit. Xayzeck is a fine lynch. Jingle is... not pinging me as scum, no, he's being too cheeky. (Unless he's super cheeky as scum, a la Gammagooey.)
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Post Post #126 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:44 am

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In post 125, xRECKONERx wrote:I have a light scum read on ++--

So does everyone else in this game. Get in line.
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Post Post #127 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 8:32 am

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You couldn't be more wrong, T. I'd never kill anyone with a tuba. They're unwieldy and inelegant, not to mention that it would actually be rather difficult.

And reck, cheeky isn't an alignment tell with me. If anything, it's a tell of how invested in the game I am and my opinion of the other players. I usually sober up eventually though.
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Post Post #128 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 9:30 am

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Quick question. Why does a nightless game without plurality lynching have deadlines? If we hit deadline, the thread is going to stay open and the Vote Count is going to reset and nothing else is going to happen. Seems like a waste to me.
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Post Post #129 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 12:09 pm

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VOTE: Jingle

I think the Huntress case sucks
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Post Post #130 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 12:16 pm

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I think your reading comprehension sucks. :P
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Post Post #131 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 12:24 pm

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gasp

SCUM!
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Post Post #132 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 12:26 pm

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In post 126, TellTaleHeart wrote:
In post 125, xRECKONERx wrote:I have a light scum read on ++--

So does everyone else in this game. Get in line.

Rather surprising he hasn't been lynched yet then
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Post Post #133 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 1:07 pm

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In post 131, Xayzeck wrote:gasp

SCUM!


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Post Post #134 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 1:30 pm

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:lol:

Did Jingle tell you to bus in the PT Xay, or did you come up with that on your own?
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Post Post #135 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 1:50 pm

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He totally told me to bus, wanna vote him with me? Then once he flips scum I'll get all the towncred!
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Post Post #136 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 1:50 pm

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jk your reads suck more than a black hole tth
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Post Post #137 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 3:46 pm

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That's a cute one, Jingle.

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Post Post #138 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:20 pm

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In post 121, Jingle wrote:*Checks player list.

Nope, no Guyett or ika. You don't gotta worry about quickhammers.

But seriously, why are you so interested in putting him at L-1 if you're afraid of scum quickhammering. Do you think scum is gonna quickhammer other scum? Do you think it's against our interests to trade 1 for 1 with scum?

Hell, I'd be rather excited if scum quickhammered.


I'm surprised to hear something like this come from you, Jingle, because I know this is the kind of stuff you think about.

Due to the nature of the set-up, scum need to mislynch two VTs to win. With the scum vengekill in play, it doesn't necessarily matter how you get those mislynches and there's room to lose someone without needing to get more. Taking a 1 IC and 1 VT trade for 1 scum wouldn't be a bad strategic move.
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Post Post #139 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:25 pm

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In post 130, Jingle wrote:I think your reading comprehension sucks. :P


While crudely expressed, I agree with the sentiment, Jingley. The Huntress case sucks. It holds her to this oddly high standard and the things I quoted in ISO look fairly innocuous to me. Having a kind of clunky and disjointed ISO would seem to me to come with the condition of not knowing what you're doing, which I actually associate more with town.
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Post Post #140 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:28 pm

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In post 132, Xayzeck wrote:
In post 126, TellTaleHeart wrote:
In post 125, xRECKONERx wrote:I have a light scum read on ++--

So does everyone else in this game. Get in line.

Rather surprising he hasn't been lynched yet then


More surprising to me is how there's no takers for the IC-blessed wagon. Instead, they opted to make their move on ++--.
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Post Post #141 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:32 pm

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In post 138, TellTaleHeart wrote:
In post 121, Jingle wrote:*Checks player list.

Nope, no Guyett or ika. You don't gotta worry about quickhammers.

But seriously, why are you so interested in putting him at L-1 if you're afraid of scum quickhammering. Do you think scum is gonna quickhammer other scum? Do you think it's against our interests to trade 1 for 1 with scum?

Hell, I'd be rather excited if scum quickhammered.

I'm surprised to hear something like this come from you, Jingle, because I know this is the kind of stuff you think about.

Due to the nature of the set-up, scum need to mislynch two VTs to win. With the scum vengekill in play, it doesn't necessarily matter how you get those mislynches and there's room to lose someone without needing to get more. Taking a 1 IC and 1 VT trade for 1 scum wouldn't be a bad strategic move.


:roll: Yes. I am good at setup spec. Very good. And trust me when I tell you that a quick hammer here is not in Scum's best interest. The thought would be that they only need one myslynch, but they're outing one of their own for a player who was already a likely lynch.

Further it doesn't solve the issue of being afraid of a quick hammer implying a town read on the player in question. Either you're willing for him to be lynched or you're not.

In post 134, TellTaleHeart wrote::lol:

Did Jingle tell you to bus in the PT Xay, or did you come up with that on your own?


Bussing is stupid in this setup.
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Post Post #142 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:34 pm

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In post 140, TellTaleHeart wrote:
In post 132, Xayzeck wrote:
In post 126, TellTaleHeart wrote:
In post 125, xRECKONERx wrote:I have a light scum read on ++--

So does everyone else in this game. Get in line.

Rather surprising he hasn't been lynched yet then


More surprising to me is how there's no takers for the IC-blessed wagon. Instead, they opted to make their move on ++--.


I know xay and I'm pretty sure we can figure each other out eventually. I'll get back to you once I've got a read on him.
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Post Post #143 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:36 pm

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In post 139, TellTaleHeart wrote:
In post 130, Jingle wrote:I think your reading comprehension sucks. :P


While crudely expressed, I agree with the sentiment, Jingley. The Huntress case sucks. It holds her to this oddly high standard and the things I quoted in ISO look fairly innocuous to me. Having a kind of clunky and disjointed ISO would seem to me to come with the condition of not knowing what you're doing, which I actually associate more with town.


perhaps I hold her to high standard, but she was in the game that convinced me to join the site so I reserve that right.

Your reading comprehension also sucks, BTW. Check my iso and tell me what my read on huntress is.
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Post Post #144 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:39 pm

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Don't you roll your eyes at me, Mr. Sugarpants. >:\

What's your explanation for how ++-- is so popular while the Xayzeck wagon languishes?
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Post Post #145 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:42 pm

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In post 143, Jingle wrote:Your reading comprehension also sucks, BTW. Check my iso and tell me what my read on huntress is.

I actually don't know. More scum than not, though.
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Post Post #146 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:46 pm

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In post 121, Jingle wrote:[But seriously, why are you so interested in putting him at L-1 if you're afraid of scum quickhammering. Do you think scum is gonna quickhammer other scum? Do you think it's against our interests to trade 1 for 1 with scum?

Scum might want to quickhammer because it gives town less information. ++-- isn't by any means a lock for the lynch today so scum might jump for the chance. I'm not interested in giving scum the choice of whether or not to go down the quickhammer route if they feel it's in their interest. I may be wrong about whether or not it's a valid play but it does seem to me to be a legitimate option.

As for whether or not I'm willing to lynch ++--, as I've said I think it should be up to the ICs to decide. If it were up to me he'd be my top choice.

I don't have any kind of handle on Xay at the moment. I don't think that's a good sign.
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Post Post #147 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:16 pm

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I think it's likely that ++-- is a patsy. There is an awkwardness about him, but I think it's more likely a result of being new than a result of being scum. This is supported by his fairly recent join date and his unfamiliarity with how the game is played on this site (). Looking at his ISO, it doesn't look like he starts conforming to the flow of the game, either. That's wouldn't seem characteristic of a man who has access to a PT with people familiar with the site meta. It's also unsettling that four out of six non-ICs were scum reading him and were either voting or expressed willingness to vote him. Add in my town read on Pine and this wagon is poison. I won't support it.

I would support this, though.
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Post Post #148 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:45 pm

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Well that's disappointing.
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Post Post #149 (ISO) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 9:07 pm

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Official Vote Count


++--
(2): Jingle, Huntress
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(2): Pine, TellTaleHeart
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(1): ++--
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(1): Dry-fit
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(1): Xayzeck
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(1): xRECKONERx

Not Voting
(0):
None.


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