I have a light scum read on ++--, but I can't really put my finger on why.
I have no read on Dry-Fit. Xayzeck is a fine lynch. Jingle is... not pinging me as scum, no, he's being too cheeky. (Unless he's super cheeky as scum, a la Gammagooey.)
You couldn't be more wrong, T. I'd never kill anyone with a tuba. They're unwieldy and inelegant, not to mention that it would actually be rather difficult.
And reck, cheeky isn't an alignment tell with me. If anything, it's a tell of how invested in the game I am and my opinion of the other players. I usually sober up eventually though.
Quick question. Why does a nightless game without plurality lynching have deadlines? If we hit deadline, the thread is going to stay open and the Vote Count is going to reset and nothing else is going to happen. Seems like a waste to me.
Nope, no Guyett or ika. You don't gotta worry about quickhammers.
But seriously, why are you so interested in putting him at L-1 if you're afraid of scum quickhammering. Do you think scum is gonna quickhammer other scum? Do you think it's against our interests to trade 1 for 1 with scum?
Hell, I'd be rather excited if scum quickhammered.
I'm surprised to hear something like this come from you, Jingle, because I know this is the kind of stuff you think about.
Due to the nature of the set-up, scum need to mislynch two VTs to win. With the scum vengekill in play, it doesn't necessarily matter how you get those mislynches and there's room to lose someone without needing to get more. Taking a 1 IC and 1 VT trade for 1 scum wouldn't be a bad strategic move.
While crudely expressed, I agree with the sentiment, Jingley. The Huntress case sucks. It holds her to this oddly high standard and the things I quoted in ISO look fairly innocuous to me. Having a kind of clunky and disjointed ISO would seem to me to come with the condition of not knowing what you're doing, which I actually associate more with town.
Nope, no Guyett or ika. You don't gotta worry about quickhammers.
But seriously, why are you so interested in putting him at L-1 if you're afraid of scum quickhammering. Do you think scum is gonna quickhammer other scum? Do you think it's against our interests to trade 1 for 1 with scum?
Hell, I'd be rather excited if scum quickhammered.
I'm surprised to hear something like this come from you, Jingle, because I know this is the kind of stuff you think about.
Due to the nature of the set-up, scum need to mislynch two VTs to win. With the scum vengekill in play, it doesn't necessarily matter how you get those mislynches and there's room to lose someone without needing to get more. Taking a 1 IC and 1 VT trade for 1 scum wouldn't be a bad strategic move.
Yes. I am good at setup spec. Very good. And trust me when I tell you that a quick hammer here is not in Scum's best interest. The thought would be that they only need one myslynch, but they're outing one of their own for a player who was already a likely lynch.
Further it doesn't solve the issue of being afraid of a quick hammer implying a town read on the player in question. Either you're willing for him to be lynched or you're not.
While crudely expressed, I agree with the sentiment, Jingley. The Huntress case sucks. It holds her to this oddly high standard and the things I quoted in ISO look fairly innocuous to me. Having a kind of clunky and disjointed ISO would seem to me to come with the condition of not knowing what you're doing, which I actually associate more with town.
perhaps I hold her to high standard, but she was in the game that convinced me to join the site so I reserve that right.
Your reading comprehension also sucks, BTW. Check my iso and tell me what my read on huntress is.
In post 121, Jingle wrote:[But seriously, why are you so interested in putting him at L-1 if you're afraid of scum quickhammering. Do you think scum is gonna quickhammer other scum? Do you think it's against our interests to trade 1 for 1 with scum?
Scum might want to quickhammer because it gives town less information. ++-- isn't by any means a lock for the lynch today so scum might jump for the chance. I'm not interested in giving scum the choice of whether or not to go down the quickhammer route if they feel it's in their interest. I may be wrong about whether or not it's a valid play but it does seem to me to be a legitimate option.
As for whether or not I'm willing to lynch ++--, as I've said I think it should be up to the ICs to decide. If it were up to me he'd be my top choice.
I don't have any kind of handle on Xay at the moment. I don't think that's a good sign.
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I think it's likely that ++-- is a patsy. There is an awkwardness about him, but I think it's more likely a result of being new than a result of being scum. This is supported by his fairly recent join date and his unfamiliarity with how the game is played on this site (Post 112). Looking at his ISO, it doesn't look like he starts conforming to the flow of the game, either. That's wouldn't seem characteristic of a man who has access to a PT with people familiar with the site meta. It's also unsettling that four out of six non-ICs were scum reading him and were either voting or expressed willingness to vote him. Add in my town read on Pine and this wagon is poison. I won't support it.
No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.