Open 587 - Nightless Vengeful Mayhem [Game Over]

[Albert B. Rampage]

Astinus and Teapot are my two suspects.

[Teapot]

Great, Albert.
If you could possibly stop playing oddly, could you explain those reads in some way?

[Morgan]

I must ask you, I may be scummy to you, however am I worse than ABR? I suggest you vote him and join me for now, lets clear away a publicly held read. Lets face it, if ABR flips scum your read on me probaly will change slightly, if he flips town you may proceed to doubt me.
I honestly think that scum are redirecting to me, ABR's death will prove this. So if ABR flips town, we'll have 2 very town players; Me and Vett.

What's the better option?

>if ABR flips town you may doubt me
>if ABR flips town I will be one of two very towny players

I

cannot

believe this is an actual post.

VOTE: Teapot

Also, if you're going to townread someone for something you can't legally state in the thread, then don't bring it up. Either you're bending the rules or trying to get out of explaining a read on someone you, as scum, would already know is town.

[BBmolla]

Cow is scum

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Cow

Like 2 posts in this should have been obvious guys

[BBmolla]

Debateably we should actually lynch the second to third scummiest player today instead of the most. Cause then we hit two birds with one stone.

[BBmolla]

Never mind, nightless, I'm dumb.

[pisskop]

I've been meaning to ask. Does the D1 Vengekill actually help or hurt town odds overall? I'm not so good with the spreadsheet maths.

[BBmolla]

Cow is so fucking obvious scum, what the hell have you guys been doing?

[BBmolla]

The vengekill is a guarunteed town kill, but to be frank it doesn't really matter that much I don't think.

[BBmolla]

Like, kill coming from town I mean.

[BBmolla]

Teapot is fucking town you nimrods

Please start posting more people, lurking is bad.

You seriously think new scum is going to post this shit and be super active and scumhunting

Why do you want people to start voting me, Teapot? What have I done that is so scummy?

You're not super scum, however as people are being jerks and lurking it's all I've got. I'll quote the post I disliked again.

I don't know. I'm leaning towards Zymf right now because I think he's trying to hide the fact that he is scum by saying that scum would try to blend in with everyone else. And I think he's trying to do that.

Hi. Welcome to Open 587. I think we're still in RVS but possibly getting some early reads.

fair warning
for everyone who hasnt done nightless

these are long games
and since were in setup spec
i want to avoid grind

Wait....there are no nights in this game? Okay. That's a new one for me.

And I

unvote

. I think we may be getting some clues on who could possibly be scum. I'll see what comes of it.

You're leaning scum on zymf where as you won't vote him, you also say we're getting clues while not showing them. Feels a little like setting up to wagon anyone who gets wagoned. It's weak however it's something.
Also droog get back here, you're not giving anything good.

Lets talk, who could be scum according to you and why didn't you actually give reads when there are "clues"?
Also, thoughts on droog's play being off? I'd wagon him for pressure to get himself back in here.

Like come the fuck on.

I have townleans on Zymf,

TheCow

, droog, Astinus. Veeery weak townlean on texcat.

explain

1) How many games have you played on this site?
2) How old are you in real life?
3) What's the coolest thing you've ever seen on the internet? Where can I find it?

1) I've played 100+ games I think
2) I'm 21
3) don't care

I like to be vague and not give any explicit hints as to which side I might be on.

wat
how the fuck am I supposed to read you if you don't give me hints that you're town

Morgan is probably a scumfuck with Cow for the Cow read and the bullshit wagon on Tea.

Oh, and Teapot is also pushing for other people to start the lurker wagon for him, making it look like he's attempting to sidestep being responsible for it. Forgot to add that.

I'm generally of the opinion that town tends to lurk a bit more during the beginning, and scum lurks more later in the game.

Disagree with the first part.

ABR is being bad, it's probably ABR/Morgan/Cow GG BOYS FUCKING SOLVED IT

ABR could just be bad though, I never know with him.

archaebob is just misguided, but he's probably town

Yeah ABR is scum after that hop on

texcat is town

That has to be the scummiest wall I've ever seen. I've seen some scummy walls, but that one takes the cake.

We can lynch texcat after vettrock.

Disagree. How is "Let's investigate a lurker because I'm scared were just focusing on vocal people" scummy, please do tell.

JESUS FYCK THIS TEAPOT WAGON IS SO FUCKING DUMB SDFBKSFHASBFHABHSDF

bob townread solidified with ABR vote

So uh, vettrocks not scum. I'm not allowed to say why due to site rules, I'll say no more.
VOTE: ABR
If it isn't clear yet; Votes all main wagons, not usual play, similar to other scum games and intentional no content.

You dont need to say why, the vettrock wagon was obviously scumpushed garbage anyway

Teapot looks pretty sp00ky to me. That much is clear. Anyway, Arch's long rant just there: quite the wall. Was it out of frustration towards the player, or what? Could be that, or a self-condemning quasi-bluff looking thing. *shrugs*

This is too much for my little Cow brain to handle all at once. I'm going to chew it some, and see what the cud tastes like.

At this point, it looks like ABR is almost asking to be lynched. I don't know the guy, so I wouldn't know if this is a regular thing or not. From a Town perspective, this could be done to easily control where the Venge kill will go by the Town player. From a Scum perspective, this could be done to bluff out of a lynch -- though in this situation, that would be illogical, as there is no reason for a town to want to be lynched, or act in such a manner at all.

What I'm getting at here is, ABR

shouldn't

be town, but anything is possible.

The secondary interaction mention above also deserves some looking into, though I'd rather see the response before drawing a conclusion.

HOLY SHIT IT'S LIKE COW IS LITERALLY TELLING US "HEY GUYS IM SCUM WITH ABR"

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: ABR

[Sup-Zero]

Yo shin, what's that scummy wall you were talking about?

Texcat's wall. She had every single person as suspicious and agreed with both major cases, and it seemed like she had every single player in the game as a suspect.

That was a really long time ago and it has been thoroughly addressed.

[texcat]

I've been meaning to ask. Does the D1 Vengekill actually help or hurt town odds overall? I'm not so good with the spreadsheet maths.

I've got think it almost always hurts town. Scum are going to wagon someone who is not likely to kill them. It's one of the reasons Teapot got raised on my scum list. She's been changing her suspicions, and I think it's to avoid lynching someone who will revenge kill her or another scum.

Cow is so fucking obvious scum, what the hell have you guys been doing?

Hard to disagree with this.

Teapot is fucking town you nimrods

Please start posting more people, lurking is bad.

You seriously think new scum is going to post this shit and be super active and scumhunting

Teapot is NOT a new player(see post 107). If you're townreading her based on that bad assumption, you're wrong.

[Morgan]

Oh, BBmolla is going to be one of those replacements who storms in, says everything is dumb because wine, and then expects to be listened to. Charming.

My read on Cow has gotten stale over the years.

[BBmolla]

Oh, BBmolla is going to be one of those replacements who storms in, says everything is dumb because wine, and then expects to be listened to. Charming.

LOL SICK DISCREDIT BRO

YOU MAD CAUSE I CAUGHT YOU?

[Morgan]

Like. I think you're town and everything, but your obnoxiousness is making me want to ignore you. That's all.

[BBmolla]

k

[BBmolla]

Teapot who is your main

[BBmolla]

If you can't say gimme a guesstimate on how long you've been playing here

[BBmolla]

My read on Cow has gotten stale over the years.

Why was it a townread

[BBmolla]

Mafia if you focking vig me I will focking kill you

[Morgan]

Why did you read Cow as scum after two posts?

[BBmolla]

VOTE: TheCow with the silly hat

r00d
you just jelly of my slick style.

Also, hi.

#newplayerswag
No grudge kills here.

I think if you ever asked me to quote what newer scum would post

I'd quote these two posts

But it's honestly the rest of his iso that solidifies it. Technically his first two posts could just him being from SC2 mafia forums.