In post 349, vikingfan wrote:holy cow, I leave for a day and 5 new pages explode. Will take a look and post after work tomorrow, I'm sure several more pages will be up by then.
You leave for a day, you really should be expecting ten pages.
In post 351, House wrote: In post 345, Wake1 wrote: In post 343, SilverWolf wrote: In post 335, Wake1 wrote:
I do have initial feelings regarding certain players, but you practically demand that I vote yet will undoubtedly scoff at the feelings behind the reasoning for said vote. You probably want me to vote in order to pick apart and attack it, which in itself is disingenuous, and further makes me want to choose my actions wisely, because I like to have solid reasoning behind each and every one of my actions in general. If I felt your intentions were honest, that you wanted to know who I'd vote for without also planning to attack it, I'd be more inclined to do so.
WTF is up with this? I don't even know what to say to this. You don't want anyone to question your vote? I wasn't planning on attacking you Wake.
TSO picked apart my vote on him twice and said he didn't like it. Cheetory didn't like the tone of some of my posts and said so. Do you see me freaking out and squeezing a stress ball in the corner? Well, if I was squeezing a stress ball you wouldn't see it but just visualize it Wake.
I'm not sure what this is all about. I want to say townie paranoia but I'm not wanting to townread this behavior or call it scummy. Maybe just null for now and keep an eye on it.
You have it completely wrong.
If I get into this game, it will create chaos. If I start to move things and stir the waters, things will happen. By nature I am a catalyst. Taking off these restraints and seeing to it that things happen in this game may cause some to not want to play with my style. It may sound self-aggrandizing to you, but it isn't, but the truth, and is both an immense strength and an immense weakness. I can be a very powerful player, but I can't really play if I turn some players off because of it.
There is no paranoia. There's only the restrained yet fearless desire to pierce through everything and everyone in order to pull out the truth. You stab at things to see how they bleed in Mafia. Some people don't like being aggressively interrogated. I'm not stressed at all. I don't want to seem to over-powering, because it's not fun having few to play with (we're not talking trolling or uncivil behavior: just being a strong-willed personality).
I can buy that, but the answer isn't to withdraw from the game. Otherwise, why play at all?
By turning into a passive participant, you're also depriving town of your abilities. When players are aware of your capabilities and not seeing it, that can come across as scum play.
@House,
having played with Wake quite a bit, do you think this is odd behavior, or out of the norm?
In post 357, Jared615 wrote:Sorry if I'm being a bit lazy this game.
yes I bandwagoned TSO.
I really do need to do some more reading.
This is worse than Viking's, IMO. self aware, excuses. Difference between you and T S O is that TSO just is lazy and doesn't give a shit who knows, but you feel the need to come in, apologize for it, and keep your town standing as someone who will (eventually) participate.
FOS: Jared
I've got to say, the whole interaction between House / NJ seemed a little bit odd to me. The above quote could be a joke, but sort of strikes me otherwise. Sort of a gut feeling, there.
In post 377, House wrote:Okay, so maybe I *am* a little paranoid because that's the
only experience I have with him.
This is a false statement. We've played in multiple games together. Why are you using it to justify your vote?
In post 405, dragonspawn wrote:
So it's scummy for a pressure vote on a suspected scum now? Because I said it was for pressure?
You must be really pushing to vote for the people who were on the tso wagon then.
I already told you
Viking was a gut call. There are plenty of reasons to vote for him at this point.
My reason is trusting my instincts
Yea..... no.
VOTE: Dragon
If there are plenty of reasons to vote him, why are you calling it a gut call?