New York 182 - Game Over

[copper223]

I don't understand your 943 read much so can't really help there, trying to read 2-3 levels deep is in general pretty iffy for me, as in I often get it wrong when I try to do so.

[pisskop]

His relatively immediete revote of me seemed too hot blooded for scum. This is all my perception of his personality. He gained nothing for declaring my a douche and a PL if he is scum. He also gained nothing with the allcaps missrepping. It makes sense to me that his motivations are town.

[copper223]

I on the other hand find it typical of Antihero scum, I think he doesn't like to push on players when he is scum, so in order to convince himself he has to he gets himself pumped/angry enough in order not to care so that his accusations look overemphatic/hot blooded as you called it, check out his push on davesaz D1 in the c9++ game we played together, he seemed to get so uspet when the rest of us were not so gang ho about the lynch he was pushing that the other head of the hydra had to come in and tell him to calm down, because he was getting called out for how hard he was going on the guy.

[pisskop]

I've never played with him. I guess you'd know more about him than I.

I'll look it up.

[Marquis]

i've played with anti even more and trust me he feels town as hell.

[copper223]

i've played with anti even more and trust me he feels town as hell.

The difference between my read and this is I give him the information I used to make up my mind so that he can decide himself if he agrees or disagrees with my conclusions.

[The Bulge]

Votecount 2.1

notscience (0) -

Antihero (3) -

Thor665, House, copper223

Boonskiies (0) -

TheFuzzylogic99 (0) -

copper223 (0) -

elusive (0) -

Flubbernugget (0) -

Gorkington (0) -

House (0) -

droog (0) -

Marquis (0) -

OkaPoka (0) -

Otolia (6) -

OkaPoka, Marquis, Flubbernugget, pisskop, notscience, Gorkington

pisskop (0) -

Seohyun (1) -

Antihero

Thor665 (1) -

elusive

Varsoon (0) -

ZZZX (0) -

Not Voting -

Boonskiies, TheFuzzylogic99, droog, Otolia, Seohyun, Varsoon, ZZZX

With 18 alive, it's 10 to lynch.

Deadline in (expired on 2015-04-02 19:15:00) (April 2^nd).

[The Bulge]

Oh @Mod, if there were more then one scum faction in this game would they be death scene colored the same or differently?

Separate Mafia factions would be clearly distinguishable.

[The Bulge]

Replacing House.

[elusive]

That's actually quite convincing. There are a handful of people who are going out of there way to be dickish and its possibly to justify their scum souls.

I'll run with this until a little later.

VOTE: Antihero

Thor, still got my eye on you. What have you done this game that is town side in some pro way?

Note to self, reread otolio. Is it obvi scum or counter wagon?

[Antihero]

copper doesn't know shit and he's acting like he does. you can go down the list of large theme games and see that:

sabo: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=58913
touhou: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=59516
serum and steel: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=58358
quickness: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=57689
suburban warfare: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=56684

i have a disjointed and high intensity way of writing

the reason i WAS so successful in the game copper brought up is that i kind of sort of replicated the high energy style which fooled mastin since she's used to seeing me be lurkaderp scum, which is what i am 99% of the time. jk9++ is the exception, not the rule.

[Antihero]

There are a handful of people who are going out of there way to be dickish and its possibly to justify their scum souls.

where did i go out of my way to be dickish?

[Antihero]

Thor, still got my eye on you. What have you done this game that is town side in some pro way?

^^^this is scum

[Antihero]

i've played with anti even more and trust me he feels town as hell.

The difference between my read and this is I give him the information I used to make up my mind so that he can decide himself if he agrees or disagrees with my conclusions.

marquis also has a MUCH larger sample size than you do

[copper223]

@Anti
That was never in question, the point of contention is he is giving a read without explaining it so it's useless.

So, based on the above, you now think I am misguided town?

[elusive]

Wow so I voted antihero and he OMGUSed me real quick.

Antihero,
You can't think I would be on the same scum team as sakura since she tried to turn everything I said into a scum thing because she thought I was a newbie and maybe an easy lynch? So why are you doing the same thing as her?

Your opening interactions with SW and choof were what I meant by that statement. You, pisskop, gorkgintwhatever.

[Antihero]

oh yeah, i forgot corpse bride and winter

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=59668 corpse bride
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=60070 winter

you're using one scum game and exactly zero town games to extrapolate that me doing caps and pushing less than popular candidates is a scumtell

that's demonstrably not the case.

[elusive]

As for Thor, he was using the same weak sauce logic to try to question why I was questioning him so he is associated with sakura in my mind. Until prove so otherwise.

[Antihero]

Wow so I voted antihero and he OMGUSed me real quick.

no, you removing your vote from thor and then telling him to "prove himself town" (as if you can do that in a satisfactory way) is really fucking slimy

[elusive]

Nope. It's not.

[Antihero]

That was never in question, the point of contention is he is giving a read without explaining it so it's useless.

well i'm explaining it right now and you still want to pretend like jk9++ is the only game that exists in the world

[Antihero]

Nope. It's not.

yes, it is.

you effectively shift the burden of proof over where it doesn't belong, with thor.

[Antihero]

Your opening interactions with SW and choof were what I meant by that statement. You, pisskop, gorkgintwhatever.

i didn't do shit to choof. i didn't even talk to him.

[elusive]

Anyone who thinks that town can't be town in mafia is horrendously misguided.

He made a terribly bad case against choof and then went into minutiae with me over it which some people pointed out was his scum meta. Now he needs to start making logical, strong cases. That is what town does.

Your explanation is without merit.

[copper223]

oh yeah, i forgot corpse bride and winter

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=59668 corpse bride
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=60070 winter

you're using one scum game and exactly zero town games to extrapolate that me doing caps and pushing less than popular candidates is a scumtell

that's demonstrably not the case.

My case on you is the previous post to the one you are trying to disprove and it's based on the way you pushed Varsoon yesterday, the way Sakura tried to push me off of my scum read of you and the mysterious confirmed town read she gave when some momentum was gathering behind your wagon.