In post 2996, AngryPidgeon wrote:You are just sitting in the corner and blowing spitballs at dram who is a known chronic lurker.
In post 2987, Egg wrote:In post 2981, Titus wrote:In post 2969, Egg wrote:Titus did I miss your answer to my question about Drixx not voting Flubber or House?
Nope. I don't remember it. Requote please.
Why didn't he?
Royal wrote: Wake's entire case is he is on VLA *eyeroll*
Misrep much?
In post 2999, dramonic wrote:In post 2990, dragonspawn wrote:In post 2980, dramonic wrote:that's cute.
@Shiro: You don't need more reads though. Wake is pretty obviously scum, we'll recheck tomorrow to see which fruitcakes were so bloody resilient to the lynch.
@Freeko: You think as scum I wouldn't try to get Titus lynched?
Christ, she's like the easiest player to mislynch since joining the site.
How do you know Titus is a mislynch?
Scum is more careful about how they behave. More calculated or whatever.
Titus is a complete trainwreck.
This isn't even low-hanging fruit territory, at this point she's a potato.
In post 2999, dramonic wrote:In post 2990, dragonspawn wrote:In post 2980, dramonic wrote:that's cute.
@Shiro: You don't need more reads though. Wake is pretty obviously scum, we'll recheck tomorrow to see which fruitcakes were so bloody resilient to the lynch.
@Freeko: You think as scum I wouldn't try to get Titus lynched?
Christ, she's like the easiest player to mislynch since joining the site.
How do you know Titus is a mislynch?
Scum is more careful about how they behave. More calculated or whatever.
Titus is a complete trainwreck.
This isn't even low-hanging fruit territory, at this point she's a potato.
In post 2987, Egg wrote:In post 2981, Titus wrote:In post 2969, Egg wrote:Titus did I miss your answer to my question about Drixx not voting Flubber or House?
Nope. I don't remember it. Requote please.
Why didn't he?
Royal wrote: Wake's entire case is he is on VLA *eyeroll*
Misrep much?
In post 3003, Garmr wrote:In post 2999, dramonic wrote:In post 2990, dragonspawn wrote:In post 2980, dramonic wrote:that's cute.
@Shiro: You don't need more reads though. Wake is pretty obviously scum, we'll recheck tomorrow to see which fruitcakes were so bloody resilient to the lynch.
@Freeko: You think as scum I wouldn't try to get Titus lynched?
Christ, she's like the easiest player to mislynch since joining the site.
How do you know Titus is a mislynch?
Scum is more careful about how they behave. More calculated or whatever.
Titus is a complete trainwreck.
This isn't even low-hanging fruit territory, at this point she's a potato.
Would like to point out titus is a train wreck no matter her alignment.
In post 3000, Shiro wrote:In post 2996, AngryPidgeon wrote:You are just sitting in the corner and blowing spitballs at dram who is a known chronic lurker.
First you are speculating that I should be aware of that fact
Second yes I am calling him out for it it a horribly trait that makes it very easy for scum to hide.
In post 3007, AngryPidgeon wrote:In post 3000, Shiro wrote:In post 2996, AngryPidgeon wrote:You are just sitting in the corner and blowing spitballs at dram who is a known chronic lurker.
First you are speculating that I should be aware of that fact
Second yes I am calling him out for it it a horribly trait that makes it very easy for scum to hide.
No, I'm not speculating that you should be aware of that; that in fact has nothing to do with my point against you. My point against you is that you are sitting on the sidelines. you are not taking any stances on anything controversial or doing anything that really looks like scumhunting. I refuse to believe that Dramonic is the most interesting person in the game for you right now that you aren't commenting on other things, but choose to vote him instead. Voting Dramonic is basically the most unobtrusive thing anyone could do at this given time and that combined with your complete lack of scum-hunting or opinions on relevant topics is highly highly scummy.
Now the defense that you aren't aware of his meta is funny because its not relevant to my point. Further, by using your lack of knowledge to defend yourself you are suggesting that his meta IS relevant here, but aren't doing anything with your new knowledge about it. If it truly doesn't matter as you seem to tihnk, then you wouldn't be using it as an angle for strawmanning my point against you. Personally, I don't care about meta, me pointing it out was just to emphasize exactly how silly your vote on him is to me.
I just noticed that all the A-names are voting Titus, we just need to get Anen in on this one. Speaking of Anen, I owe everyone a crappy towncase for him that no one is going to agree with.
I'm not sure if Dragon/Shiro would both go after Dram in tandem as a team (unless maybe Dram is on their team which would be a highly specific case?). Not impossible I guess, but meh.
This wake wagon is pretty clearly scums way of letting town tear itself apart. I pretty much refuse to believe that Wake is scum if not for the complete and utter lack of posturing. His entire attitude about perfection makes a huge amount of sense to me even if it also annoys me. I don't erally see any scum motivation for elaborately faking hissy fits about his personality and I fdon't really think Wake of all people has the mental fortitude to conjure up such an elaborate persona and wall it up with all sorts of AtE to boot. Like really I'd be FUCKING impressed. The only thing I can't rule out is that he is an SK and is having an easier time with this because he IS genuinely scumhunting, but I still am not touching his wagon with an 11.5 foot pole.
Well except the Aneninen town thing. Can't say it better myself.
In post 3012, AngryPidgeon wrote:@Flubber: You do that, stud.
@Wake88: I think alcoholism is the solution you are seeking.
In post 3003, Garmr wrote:In post 2999, dramonic wrote:In post 2990, dragonspawn wrote:In post 2980, dramonic wrote:that's cute.
@Shiro: You don't need more reads though. Wake is pretty obviously scum, we'll recheck tomorrow to see which fruitcakes were so bloody resilient to the lynch.
@Freeko: You think as scum I wouldn't try to get Titus lynched?
Christ, she's like the easiest player to mislynch since joining the site.
How do you know Titus is a mislynch?
Scum is more careful about how they behave. More calculated or whatever.
Titus is a complete trainwreck.
This isn't even low-hanging fruit territory, at this point she's a potato.
Would like to point out titus is a train wreck no matter her alignment.
In post 3011, Wake1 wrote:I'm back and done with the 4-day stretch of work for now. At the hospital yesterday a gun-wielding kidnapper/idiot came into our hospital and kidnapped a coworker in the RCC section, thus causing the hospital to go on lock-down. You can read about it here: http://journaltimes.com/news/local/crim ... f6280.html . I was smack-dab in the middle of that crap, and am still a bit disturbed by it. Work went well today, and I'm hoping to play the game more tomorrow before and after blood donation at same hospital.
As for reads, maybe it's true that I shouldn't be playing Mafia for now, because there's just no time for it. Truth be told I joined because of the players, because I played this exact game awhile ago. And I haven't replaced out because I told NS that I wouldn't, and I don't want to be known as that dude who keeps replacing out. It's sort of like a commitment. Anyways, you guys want reads from me, and if I were in your shoes I can certainly understand that, because it's been a really long time, and it's not cool when a player stays in the game but doesn't really come up with reads or make a commitment on who's what.
I'm in a dilemma, guys. I don't wanna replace out, but I'm really struggling here. It's definitely a time issue. But I think, to some extent, it's also a brain-energy issue. Works leaves me brain-drained. There's so many things to juggle, and so many responsibilities that you must deal with. It takes a lot of brain-power to scum-read someone. For me it is, because I'm typically very careful, and second-guessing myself. If I scumread say, Garmr, because he's hopping on wagons and not really providing much if any reason for it, how do I know if he's actually scum? I don't, and I can't. So what do I do, and what do I do if I do succeed in getting him lynched, but he flips Town? Do we even have a standard for what's actually scummy, and what isn't?
My method for scumhunting involves searching for people who use hyperbole, or those who try to twist words or actions. A lot of things that people try to say are scummy really isn't, and much of it is just conjecture. Blather. So, what? Do I have to put a disclaimer at the end of each post every time I scumread someone? I just don't like sloppy and reckless scumreads, and it sucks seeing players get mislynched over and over. I get that in Mafia there's going to be a ton of mislynching, but I should be allowed the self-determination, at least on my part, to be more careful than the rest, right? If you were in my shoes here, on all of these issues, what would you guys do? Can you help me out here, please? You might do me a world of good here.
In post 3023, pisskop wrote:Im sure Wake understands its not personal.
@Wake
You havent made a case for one person to lynch. Nor has he begun hunting using a new style. Playing a less focused read is going to result in more of this arhuing and conflict, although you are typical quite well spoken. You can be both concise and cordial, but you need practice. Start now. Dont think about it; start with your heart and move with your gut when you look.
Changing an aspect of oneself is a daunting challenge that takes commitent. Gotta start here. You having a a busy workday is a good thing outside of this forum, and so is paying your own way. Its an underappreciated virtue thats not being ingrained by our culture any longer.
But this is a game where for whatever reason you are proving UNSAT. At the end of the day its appeals to emotion and toexperience/ofauthority.its scummy, and your irritation reads as scummy. What redeeming features have you presented?
Id lynch Shiro today as an alternative. Or maybe ika. but probably just you or her.