New York 182 - Game Over

[Flubbernugget]

When I have no reads I admit it and give some attempt to explain why. I don't tunnelSmurf the vi to cover it up.

Marquis has an inconsitency in mnenomic's reads list that you say isn't worthy of sheeping while going on about your own inconsistencies with elusive that require a lot more mental gymnasics to follow (I really don't know what your problem is with her tbh). It's like the case with the longest word count gives you the hardest boner.

There's also the fact that mnemonic slot has done nothing between two separate players to forward the game state. And its so bad,

the slot is still being referred to as otalia's slot.

Because that's next to all there is to look at.

1. I kind of thought this Mneumonic case was that...but, okay, so you're agreeing it's possible to not have town reads - so where's the fire in him not having town reads (also, frankly, didn't he have town reads? I seem to recall some on that list. Not a lot, but like 1-3)

2. I actually dislike overlong cases.
I have explained (and linked) my Elusive case multiple times. Here is a link to me linking the case; http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p6700116
I agree there is an "inconsistency" in the reads list of mneumonic - I disagree that it is a scummier inconsistency than the one Elusive did...because what Elusive did was a straight up lie, not an inconsistency.

3. If "doing gak all" was a scumtell in this game, I can think of worse offenders than that slot. i will agree it is an issue.
I will agree that some people are still referring to the slot as Otolia's slot (you most of all) - I don't think that's a valid scumtell.
I disagree that it is all there is to look at - even you are referencing a case by Marquis that is *not* based on Otolia.

My favorite part of this post is where you went out of your way to change tunnelfuck to tunnelsmurf and still missed that it was a key word in my gripe with otalia's lack of reads.

Also, I clicked both links to your case and I still don't get it, and can't be assed to retrack through the game to figure it out. I'm not the only one.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

I want to add to this that ignoring her scumbuddies is her Sakura MO. While she didnt totally ignore him she did not interactact with him but a few times. This is consistent with her scum game

[Flubbernugget]

@fuzzy what inspired you to take a look at notscience?

[TheFuzzylogic99]

His post dismissing his interaction with Sakura also he seems to be kinda lurking today.They both felt odd.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

at Flub-
You should take a look at the interaction between Sakura and NS as well as the case on FOD by NS. They are both good reads. Tell me what you think

[OkaPoka]

I do not approve of voting outside the 3.

Go back to mnenie,

Why am I playing 20 questions with you instead of voting Scum Flubber?

vote: Flubber

ok.

keep voting flubber and ill keep voting anti.

We can compromise and both vote mnemonic.

[pisskop]

Who is you three? On what basis do you make this argument? How does your statement fit with the fact of this game and ISOs of two scum flips?

Flubber, Otolia, elusive are all good candidates for scum too.
I'm less certain on Flubber now that he's actually POSTING CONTENT, tho i called him out on that earlier.
Otolia is still doing nothing regardless and just wants to see Varsoon dead no matter what.
elusive is... odd, probably my weakest scumread of the 3 at this point.

htmm

Its like you dont read \o/

But nonetheless. IS my vote causing you so much angst?

[OkaPoka]

Who is you three? On what basis do you make this argument? How does your statement fit with the fact of this game and ISOs of two scum flips?

Flubber, Otolia, elusive are all good candidates for scum too.
I'm less certain on Flubber now that he's actually POSTING CONTENT, tho i called him out on that earlier.
Otolia is still doing nothing regardless and just wants to see Varsoon dead no matter what.
elusive is... odd, probably my weakest scumread of the 3 at this point.

htmm

Its like you dont read \o/

But nonetheless. IS my vote causing you so much angst?

yes.

but do you want one of the three to die?
vote mnemoic and ill rejoin the wagon.

[OkaPoka]

elusive works too

[Flubbernugget]

at Flub-
You should take a look at the interaction between Sakura and NS as well as the case on FOD by NS. They are both good reads. Tell me what you think

I think the puppy gag took the flames wagon too far in hindsight but flame's abusive play wasn't helping.

I don't want to say much more without a response from ns.

[Flubbernugget]

Your case came out of no where and it's giving me this vibe that you're thinking "oh shit I need towncred NOW"

[pisskop]

meh

unvote
vote: Mnenonic

[mnemonicdevice]

So, is this the point where I do a Varsoon, claim non-normal thing like Lynchee, then later retract it because I am "under too much pressure"??

Lolnope.

@Pisskop: What is your opinion on Oka?

[OkaPoka]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: mnemoiicdevice

lets go

[TheFuzzylogic99]

@ Flub- thats a reasonable concern. However nobody is really scum reading me.....Sme are leaning scum bc of my awkward playstyle however thats common. look up my meta and you see that I often get run up bc I have a wierd playstyle. As far as town cred I dont care if I have town cred. I just want to lynch scum. Why would I need to panic and try to get town cred when nobody is even paying attention to me. Is there a good reason I would panic?

Also ignoring me have you read the case on NS ?? If so how much of my accusation have you looked into.Also I agree Flames play did not help however I think that he used that to get a mislynch and get town cred if Sakura somehow got lynched.
The puppy gag is meh in eneral except that it seems a way not to post anything of real significant imho.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

@ Flub- thats a reasonable concern. However nobody is really scum reading me.....Sme are leaning scum bc of my awkward playstyle however thats common. look up my meta and you see that I often get run up bc I have a wierd playstyle. As far as town cred I dont care if I have town cred. I just want to lynch scum. Why would I need to panic and try to get town cred when nobody is even paying attention to me. Is there a good reason I would panic?

Also ignoring me have you read the case on NS ?? If so how much of my accusation have you looked into.Also I agree Flames play did not help however I think that he used that to get a mislynch and get town cred if Sakura somehow got lynched.
The puppy gag is meh in eneral except that it seems a way not to post anything of real significant imho.

[Thor665]

thor can you point me to this anti case
i dont see a big writeup
so much as
slow divorce

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p6691481
That - I never claimed it was big - I also fail to see how it looks slow.

Thor- my point is that you are might just be optimistic in your votes and so waiting for elusive wagon is just a way to get a mislynch

Opportunistic? Or do you actually mean optimistic? I don't really follow you either way.

My favorite part of this post is where you went out of your way to change tunnelfuck to tunnelsmurf and still missed that it was a key word in my gripe with otalia's lack of reads.

I addressed that point regardless.

Also, I clicked both links to your case and I still don't get it, and can't be assed to retrack through the game to figure it out. I'm not the only one.

Wow - so even with links and a clearly described procession of the lie and why I think it's a lie you "don't get it and can't be asked to do any more work on it"

Okay - sure, let's play the derp.
"What don't you 'get' my dear sir? Allow me to spoon feed you"
Do you understand that I am calling her a liar? Y/N?
Do you understand what I am calling a lie? Y/N?
Do you understand why it looks scummy? Y/N?

Clue me in to where this very convoluted and complicated and multi-facted and hard to follow case is losing you and I'll clarify.

[Thor665]

Gork was able to get it in one.
Ika pretty much was making up his understanding of reality and got it in three.
You're at 2 - c'mon man, pull this together!

[droog]

I don't understand the case on Otolia.
And Sakura forgot to buddy Anti in favor of buddying me, remember?

i say slow because
you liked anti in the beginning
so the general thing is
you went from liking him to not liking him

not much to comment on here
i guess my first response is
'is this a shit test
i have never known thor to give lame questions
why does this one look so lame'

id be willing to lynch anti on sakura-buddy
but id also be wiling to lynch you on that

the only reason i dont
is everyone else is jumping on you

[droog]

complaining about thor
is the new hip in thing

[The Bulge]

Votecount 2.5

notscience (2) -

mnemonicdevice, TheFuzzylogic99

Antihero (4) -

Thor665, ika, elusive, Gorkington

Boonskiies (0) -

TheFuzzylogic99 (0) -

copper223 (1) -

droog

elusive (0) -

Flubbernugget (0) -

Gorkington (0) -

ika (0) -

droog (0) -

Marquis (0) -

OkaPoka (0) -

mnemonicdevice (7) -

Flubbernugget, notscience, copper223, Seohyun, Marquis, pisskop, OkaPoka

pisskop (0) -

Seohyun (1) -

Antihero

Thor665 (1) -

ZZZX

Varsoon (0) -

ZZZX (0) -

Not Voting -

Boonskiies, Varsoon

With 18 alive, it's 10 to lynch.

Deadline in (expired on 2015-04-02 19:15:00) (April 2^nd).

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Are you saying you dont know what being Opportunistic as related to this game means.... If so I dont buy it

Yes complaining about Thor is the new thing. Its fun and hip though not very helpful

[droog]

im sticking with my vnity wagon

[TheFuzzylogic99]

I dont see NS contributing much as his vote is on the likely lynch and there is no reason to contribute or to push Mdevice as he will likely get lynched with or without NS input.

[Thor665]

I don't understand the case on Otolia.
And Sakura forgot to buddy Anti in favor of buddying me, remember?

i say slow because
you liked anti in the beginning
so the general thing is
you went from liking him to not liking him

not much to comment on here
i guess my first response is
'is this a shit test
i have never known thor to give lame questions
why does this one look so lame'

id be willing to lynch anti on sakura-buddy
but id also be wiling to lynch you on that

the only reason i dont
is everyone else is jumping on you

You actually kind of successfully said nothing here.
Anti and I are "Sakura buddies" for diametrically opposed concepts - if you think one of us makes sense as a buddy then you should not think the other one does.
Do you actually think both cases work?
How?
If not - what are you saying?

Your current vote is pure useless - you have established your belief in Copper scum.
Now - be proactive and ruddy functional and stop pretending like you're actually helping scumhunt via that vote - you're sidelining yourself, That;s bad town or good scum play. Neither is very helpful right now.