Newbie 1596: Exotic Birds (Game Over)

[Cephrir]

Vote Count 1.2

saad 3 (BlueBloodedToffee, Mofonugen, Wyvernite)

Wyvernite 2 (Plotinus, saad)
Mofonugen 2 (Argos, singersigner)

Plotinus 1 (Skold)

Not Voting 1 (Wanderer-nl)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Deadline is in (expired on 2015-04-28 09:00:00)

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[saad]

VOTE: Saad

As soon as a single vote fell he defended himself. A sign of a noob, yes, but a sign of a scummy noob.
That being said, I would really hate to meta down a newbie game like that. So let's hope I'm wrong.

you're jumping to conclusions mate.

don't like that safeguard attempt though, keeping my eye on you.

You keep saying that we're reading into, or misinterpreting what you're saying, and then don't give clarification. This comes off as very scummy, even if you aren't. It's a red flag.

You also keep throwing out half-assed reads on scum

. You're gonna have to put more content in your posts than just "you're reading that wrong, and because of abc I think you're acting kinda scummy" you really need to clarify if we're actually misreading your posts like you claim we are.

did no one even notice this FFS, actually read what other people are saying pls, it's a team effort.

[saad]

Yeah, there is.

I want you lynched.

cute. i hope you're scum but I don't think you are, because if you're town, then roberto martinez has more chance of winning than you do.

[Wanderer-nl]

VOTE: saad

Back at L-1 again.

Claim.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Someone state intent to hammer on Saad.

[Skold]

A CASE? By me? Ugh. Clearly this is Liverpool peasant work:

Stupid oxymoron vote

Poor reaction to very little pressure

Defends himself with ''you're misreading'' or ''don't jump to conclusions'' instead of just explaining his positions.

Gender Pronouns: Saad if you tell us the pronoun you'd rather use. I'm using ''he'' in this post because I assumed since you didn't protest to being called ''he'' it'd do for now. But clarification would be nice.

pedit: Nigga I ain't gon crack just because I'm young. (Okay I MIGHT'VE, MAYBE, POTENTIALLY, self-hammered in my first game, but that's water under the bridge ).
Though I am impressed you managed to care enough to go through my posts. <3.

pedit2: JESUS CHRIST. I nearly hammered him. Feck. Should I put him back to L-1? This is more a theory question than anything else. I've seen bad things happen at L-1 in newbie games (namely me self-hammering). Eh I guess this is intent to hammer. Claim boii.

[Wanderer-nl]

And no quickhammer.
I have a bad experience and will want to lynch a quickhammer very much the next day.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Claim Saad.

[Wyvernite]

I ignored your "slip" comment, because its one of several comments you've made to several people, where there isn't really an answer to it besides "no". Its another one of the comments that I actually called you out on, where you don't straight out say you're reading scum on that person, but want to imply it, so if you get called out you can still backpedal.

[saad]

i'm a villager. great job town.

before some asshat hammers me, i'll out what I have so far in terms of reads.

BBT: sadly town, this push he's doing on me is suicide if he's scum

singersinger: town for that early tr, he/she seemed confident on it, scum don't like to out early townreads.

wanderer: town, but a weak town in terms of being manipulated. just don't listen to everyone like u listened to BBT, remember U don't know who scum are.

Wyvernite: scum for what he said and how quickly he changed his read, he saw the bw and leapt onto it.

mofonugen: scum, gave a shitty reason for voting me then safeguarded


everyone else is pretty null

[saad]

i was looking forward to this game too

now can someone unvote me so we can discuss, i don't want to sign up for another game and risk flipping scum.

[Plotinus]

I'm glad you didn't claim a powerrole. Way too early in the game for that.

[Mofonugen]

"Meta Down the game" to me, means I don't want to use assumptions based on other games I have played to further influence how new people play. Though it seems that everyone here has at least some experience, so I suppose that point is null.

saad, I don't think my reason for voting you was shitty at all. Considering there are multiple people voting you for nearly the same reason.

I'm not sure why you're so intent on not getting lynched if you're vanilla. Yeah, it sucks to die early. But if you truly want your faction to win, it's better to have a vanilla die than a PR.
Also, I wasn't expecting the posting rate to nearly be this fast. I've got some work to do, but I'll check the thread again in a few hours.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

So, who believes the claim and why?

[Plotinus]

I'm provisionally somewhat inclined to believe him because by chance one of the games I'm spectating is his last one but that game is ongoing and so I can't explain why this isn't an argument from meta.

And all those hedge words in the above sentence mean that I still want to keep my eye on him and see how he behaves in the rest of this day phase. I don't think we should actually lynch anybody for at least a week. I'm not impressed with his play so far but I'd like to see how he behaves ten pages from now.

[saad]

"Meta Down the game" to me, means I don't want to use assumptions based on other games I have played to further influence how new people play. Though it seems that everyone here has at least some experience, so I suppose that point is null.

saad, I don't think my reason for voting you was shitty at all. Considering there are multiple people voting you for nearly the same reason.

I'm not sure why you're so intent on not getting lynched if you're vanilla. Yeah, it sucks to die early. But if you truly want your faction to win, it's better to have a vanilla die than a PR.
Also, I wasn't expecting the posting rate to nearly be this fast. I've got some work to do, but I'll check the thread again in a few hours.

ffs this is so blatantly scum.

your reason: i defended myself when someone voted me, you twisted that tbh, it was an innocuous comment.

BBT's reason: thinks I'm lying in terms of the skold vote and thinks i am trying to fit in.

wanderer's reason: because BBT told him to

wyvernite's reason: i'm posting 'fluff'.


all look like different reasons to me.

I'm not sure why you're so intent on not getting lynched if you're vanilla. Yeah, it sucks to die early. But if you truly want your faction to win, it's better to have a vanilla die than a PR.

i'd rather play than see my faction win tbh, and it seems like you're giving someone a justifiable reason to vote me.

VOTE: Mofonugen

[Wanderer-nl]

i was looking forward to this game too

now can someone unvote me so we can discuss, i don't want to sign up for another game and risk flipping scum.

I don't like this, feels like an AtE.

I think saad's reads list could have been made by both town or scum.
@saad: why are you townreading BBT?

[Mofonugen]

Actually, I don't believe him at all. He claimed villager. It clearly states in the setup and the sample role PM's that the role is called Vanilla Townie.

[saad]

Actually, I don't believe him at all. He claimed villager. It clearly states in the setup and the sample role PM's that the role is called Vanilla Townie.

loool IT'S THE SAME THING i can't believe you're using that as a serious argument

[Mofonugen]

i was looking forward to this game too

now can someone unvote me so we can discuss, i don't want to sign up for another game and risk flipping scum.

I don't like this, feels like an AtE.

I think saad's reads list could have been made by both town or scum.
@saad: why are you townreading BBT?

Probably because they're scumbuddies.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Actually, I don't believe him at all. He claimed villager. It clearly states in the setup and the sample role PM's that the role is called Vanilla Townie.

I'm inclined to agree with this.

[Plotinus]

Actually, I don't believe him at all. He claimed villager. It clearly states in the setup and the sample role PM's that the role is called Vanilla Townie.

I'm inclined to agree with this.

Not a plays-the-game-on-some-other-site-too slip?

[saad]

i was looking forward to this game too

now can someone unvote me so we can discuss, i don't want to sign up for another game and risk flipping scum.

I don't like this, feels like an AtE.

I think saad's reads list could have been made by both town or scum.
@saad: why are you townreading BBT?

because I don't see scum pushing this hard on me. it's a newbie game, newbies are more likely to get paranoid about things like that, so if BBT is scum then he's playing an incredibly reckless game.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

He may well do.

I find it more likely that he would use the terminology given in his role PM though.

[saad]

Actually, I don't believe him at all. He claimed villager. It clearly states in the setup and the sample role PM's that the role is called Vanilla Townie.

I'm inclined to agree with this.

jesus christ i'm in disbelief