New York 180 (Endgame)

[ika]

goodmornign: kitz
ozgin: Cheetory6
T S O: Marquis, green crayons, Ozgin [l-2]
GC: dragonspawn, T S O

9 alive, 5 lynch

(expired on 2015-04-21 21:00:00)

[Marquis]

dragon and kitz both seem to be fighting for the role of token dumbtown

i wonder who's going to win

and who's just scum

[dragonspawn]

I'm not opposed to lynching marquis for being useless and doing nothing but complaining.

[goodmorning]

Vote: Kitz

My vote isn't moving. At all.

[Kitz]

We already established that T S O is a possible Vigi or a SK, meaning he's not the Mafia.
There were supposed to be a CC for ages and there never were. If it's the true Vigi, they did a very anti-town thing.

The way these two buddy, it could either be an orcestrated lie that they made, or... Well, they're more likely Mafia than SK, which is who we want to bring down.
The SK won't kill the town yet.

For all we know, neither SW or Oz would even claim Vig in the first place.

[Ozgin]

Ozgin, you presumably shot me last night, yeah?

Ozgin's play

still doesn't make sense from a Town perspective.

Yesterday, in an attempt to push through a lynch on you, I claimed Vig. Ozgin saw that.
At that stage, Ozgin had two options - counterclaim me, which would almost certainly have lead to my death, or go along with me and shoot me last night.
If Ozgin did not shoot me last night that conclusively proves he is lying.

I am waiting for Ozgin's clarification on shooting me before I continue on this train of thought.

1) I did not shoot you, I didn't wanna waste my shot on a presumably BP SK. Considering I'm on my last shot, I

really

don't want to waste it.

2) I had a lot more than two options, don't narrow

my

decisions down to two options that you speculate would have "certainly lead to your death," because it's stupid. If I had CC'd you, I don't think I'd have the pull to overthrow you. SW/GC are the only people who have trusted me consistently, and I felt that everyone else was, at best, leaning towards a town read on me. You had people who were practically tattooing "TSO Conftown" on their fucking chests. Who would you honestly think would have won that blow for blow? And for the shooting you last night as an option, read (1) as to why I didn't.

3) How in Sam-Hell does me not wanting to waste a bullet on you as a BP SK show that I'm lying? Riddle me this, Batman:

Did it ever occur to you that I didn't want to shoot you because if you're BP and I missed, then it'd be really hard to CC you? Maybe I sat on my last shot so long so that now, when I am counter claiming, I can prove myself by putting a bullet in -another- scum?

GC already said my shots. I killed pisskop and whiff'd on elusive. I think the fact that

you

didn't yield any kills last night is interesting, though, and makes me wonder about GM. I don't understand all of this blabber about it. The process is simple:

Spoiler: The Process

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Step 1: Lynch TSO

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Was TSO the SK?:
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Yes - Know that I'm the Town Vig and help me make a decent fucking shot. If I take it tonight, evaluate it as you will. If I don't, help me make one tomorrow. I still don't know if I should take my last shot tonight, but if you all help me, then we can come up with an idea of who to kill.

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No - Then you can lynch me, but I'm 100% certain this won't even be an issue.

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Step 2: Tomorrow, look into scumspects based on TSO flipping SK.

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Step 3: Repeat step 2 every fucking day and let's stop dicking around as town, because this has been a rough game.

[Ozgin]

We already established that T S O is a possible Vigi or a SK, meaning he's not the Mafia.
There were supposed to be a CC for ages and there never were. If it's the true Vigi, they did a very anti-town thing.

The way these two buddy, it could either be an orcestrated lie that they made, or... Well, they're more likely Mafia than SK, which is who we want to bring down.
The SK won't kill the town yet.

For all we know, neither SW or Oz would even claim Vig in the first place.

Your logic doesn't resonate with me. Our goal is to lynch all threats to the town, and I'm literally handing you a Serial Killer on a silver fucking platter. I explained why I held my shot.

As for the "For all we know..." part, I don't even comprehend your point there. Seriously, I don't know what you're trying to say.

[dragonspawn]

Where the heck is this concept of a Bp SK coming from?

[dragonspawn]

There is still little evidence that there is a SK or that you are a vigilante.

if we had a SK and a vigilante would have more nks. There isn't any real strong evidence of three nk attempts on night 1.

[Marquis]

you all make me want to scream

every single one of you

i think the only thing i agree with this page is kitz's first paragraph and that's saying something

[Marquis]

and by "the only thing i agree with" take that to mean "the only thing that's stopped me from flinging my phone against the wall"

[goodmorning]

Where the heck is this concept of a Bp SK coming from?

dragon for conftown

[dragonspawn]

That really doesn't answer my question.

[Green Crayons]

It was one of the things floated in the PT.

Appears to be speculation based in part in how TSO claimed? Not sure, as I haven't gone back and checked the circumstances surrounding TSO's claim.

Also appears to be speculation based in part of how PR heavy this game is.

[dragonspawn]

The only reason I see for speculating that tso is a bullet proof serial killer is if you took took a shot at him and missed.

[goodmorning]

The only reason I see for speculating that tso is a bullet proof serial killer is if you took took a shot at him and missed.

dragon for superconftown

[Kitz]

For something completely different, I give this game 10/10 for the confusion.

I again say that I don't want to see TSO lynched yet. I'm moving my vote to Ozgin. If there's a true neighbour thing but that Ozgin is a Scum, GC could be defending unknowingly.
VOTE: Ozgin

[dragonspawn]

VOTE: oz

because I have good reason to think he tried to kill tso and missed.

[dragonspawn]

That's L2.

if tso is on board we are L1

what do you think good morning?

[goodmorning]

I don't want to lynch either of them because I think they're unlikely to be groupscum.

If it comes down to deadline I'd hammer Ozgin but not TSO.

[T S O]

VOTE: Ozgin

He's lying. Even if you think it's me, I am dead tomorrow, so you're getting a dead SK no matter what.

It's not me, but I'm trying to entice people to just fucking lynch the SK.

[Shinobi]

VOTE: oz

because I have good reason to think he tried to kill tso and missed.

And?

[Marquis]

bulletproof sk is incredibly common to the point where it's practically standard here.

[T S O]

I did not shoot you

[T S O]

@Shinobi