In post 3698, Gammagooey wrote:The first is just that you haven't done anything that I view as amazingly town that I've seen you do in previous games. I townread your slot in Reckoning 3 for basically the entire game on the basis of one of your early posts seeming really really town motivated. The absence of that isn't really a reason to lynch you on its own but seeing you with a hundred something posts and nothing that to me says "oh actually that's pretty town" DOES make me want to murder you.
The second is that you've put basically no effort into actually PUSHING your reads here.
That much I appreciate and acknowledge with regards to my scumreads, though I'm pretty happy with my approach overall.
You've had Titus as strong-town for the entire game but gone into all this detail about so many other players and given basically nothing about why you actually think Titus is town.
Hi. There's also another thing from very early on that makes me think she's a certain
type
of town but I don't want to point to the post or which type I think she is because I don't want to give scum any information. It's something upon which Fenchurch first picked up at around the same time as she mentioned the Shadoweh thing to me.
You're also voting Esp but haven't bothered going into any detail whatsoever about why you think he should be lynched over anyone else.
I tried to express what was bugging me about Espeonage early in my read
here, but as I acknowledged above, the read needs a refresh. However, I
have
talked about why I think he should be lynched over many other people in that I've been talking openly and honestly about my reads on other people in comparison. But, again, I agree that I've so far been unable to get my teeth into a juicy scumread. Have I mentioned that this game is obnoxious? Because it is.
There's less than 2 days until deadline, the wagons are you and a strong town read of yours (and to a lesser extent another strong town read of yours if you want to call 2 votes a wagon), and you've spent your posts explaining null reads instead of actively trying to affect the course of the game. You've put up a list of people you'd rather lynch and then done nothing to actually get people to vote them instead of Titus.
Your scummiest reads are a pile of lurkers and a dude who's claimed to be able to confirm himself tomorrow, which would be fine imo if you were ACTUALLY pushing him and actively trying to convince people that his posts make more sense from a scum-saving-himself mindset than town, but you're voting someone who you've just stated you think is generally unreadable (albeit maybe intentionally so) and frustrating you instead.
You complained about people trying to lynch you earlier today as the first lynch when you were at a meet when you weren't capable of affecting the game. And the you came back and continued to do nothing to meaningfully affect the game, instead pointing to some people and saying that they should be lynched instead of the current wagons. I think you're a very competent player and that you can tell just like I can that the main wagons aren't going to change at this point without someone going into detail on why they think Titus is town or a specific other player is likely to be scum, and I think it's clear given the deadline and what you've done so far that you'd rather not do that.
so yeah no this isn't about 999. this is about you seeing where this game is going and you strongly disagreeing with that, but not putting in the focused effort to actually change it.
OK, so let's talk about my approach to things at the moment.
I'm behind in this game. There are huge chunks of it that I've just not had the opportunity to read properly from when I was away at the meet and since I've come back. You've played with me before, as town, so you know that this happens to me and I'm pretty sure you should know that my instinct is to get defensive when things like this happen. I'm pretty sure the Balto invitational reflects this, and I'm certain that games like The Wire Season 1 reflect the fact that the one thing that I know that I can do when I'm behind is talk about myself, my thought processes, and how I play.
No, I've not got a strong scumread that I'm convinced is the right one to push and showing exactly why I believe in it. I wish I did have one. For the record, though, I'd also like to point out that I'm entirely capable of faking that kind of conviction as scum or bussing if I can't hook onto anything better. Players from Retrospective Rehash know that I can fake the kind of pro-town behaviour that you're describing. While I agree with you that I'm not currently doing as much as the game
needs
me to, I don't think that your theory fits the evidence.
Also, while I agree that I'm not pushing another lynch very strongly, I'm also being as open and honest and available as I can make myself right now because I know I'm town and that's my best way of showing that I'm the wrong lynch. People moving off me and onto other people, by understanding why I'm playing how I'm playing, gets us closer to a scum lynch, even though I don't like the alternatives on offer - and, as has been shown, I'm explaining why I don't like those alternatives as well. We can't all be relentless town leaders - and, Christ, in a game like this I think we could do with fewer of them right now - and I think I've been pretty clear in what I'm willing to cooperate to do and why.
If I had the time (and, frankly, the will to live) I would absolutely be digging up an alternative wagon, but I don't. What I've had time to do is this. Perhaps if people would stop POSTING SO FRAKKING MUCH it wouldn't be such a mammoth task for people to delve through the thread to dig up an alternative to the crap that the regular posters are offering us.
In other news, Patrick and I agree that 3693 makes you look pretty town, and the post I'm quoting here doesn't shake that.
