NY 183 - Apocalypse Mafia

[Grib]

Oops, that's Nero.

elusive > beautiful VT

Nero Cain > no claim

Grib > JOAT
davesaz > confirmed VT
PeaceBringer > Tracker
Rubicon > beautiful VT

PointYBagelS > no claim
Vampirate > no claim
Taly > no claim

RIP > 2-shot Cop
BlueBloodedToffee > beautiful, beautiful Doc

[davesaz]

With a traitor not guaranteed to be recruited, it would be 3.5 scum which is pretty weak. 4.5 makes more sense, with it becoming 5 on a successful recruit. We'd expect slightly more than usual town PRs for balance. The type of JOAT that Grib is counts as a full, so do a doc and tracker. I'm still suspicious of having both a JOAT and 2-shot cop (as claimed by RIP). A doc on elusive is not a clear given the the kill could have been Boon if it's a BP traitor, but I do think she's town.

PEdit: Why, is that L-1 already? Just in case...

UNVOTE:

[Grib]

UNVOTE:

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Yeah, it was L-1.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Town seem really powerful...

[Grib]

Isn't it great.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Could be 5 scum.

[elusive]

Well Mafia have had an encryptor and a roleblocker. I imagine the remaining roles to be strong as well but a combo of them lurking\sucking as scum just makes it funny. So close to starting to troll them hard.

VOTE: Vampirate

Little scumpire, don't go crying to your mama...

[Grib]

I hope Vampirate didn't come here to yell at elusive and then get spooked off when the Doc revealed he probably stopped her from dying N1.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Vampirate should have claimed while they were here.

[PointYBagelS]

I'm VT

Obviously not a fan of people suggesting I be the lynch and to be honest grib I don't think my interactions with kitz make much of a case.

Vampirate might be scum. I think elusive had a descent case against him, and the lack of any scum votes on the slot day 1 is suspect.

Not going to lie, taly looks like an easy lynch but both of the last scum were (to an extent) so meh.

I guess I'd be fine with a vampirate or taly vote today. Hopefully taly starts posting though...

[Grib]

I'm VT

Obviously not a fan of people suggesting I be the lynch and to be honest grib I don't think my interactions with kitz make much of a case.

Vampirate might be scum. I think elusive had a descent case against him, and the lack of any scum votes on the slot day 1 is suspect.

Not going to lie, taly looks like an easy lynch but both of the last scum were (to an extent) so meh.

I guess I'd be fine with a vampirate or taly vote today. Hopefully taly starts posting though...

I definitely think that if Taly and Vampirate don't end the game, you can die right after them.

[PointYBagelS]

I'm VT

Obviously not a fan of people suggesting I be the lynch and to be honest grib I don't think my interactions with kitz make much of a case.

Vampirate might be scum. I think elusive had a descent case against him, and the lack of any scum votes on the slot day 1 is suspect.

Not going to lie, taly looks like an easy lynch but both of the last scum were (to an extent) so meh.

I guess I'd be fine with a vampirate or taly vote today. Hopefully taly starts posting though...

I definitely think that if Taly and Vampirate don't end the game, you can die right after them.

Hope they end the game then, or that you change your mind before then. I feel like you're selectively using some evidence while ignoring other evidence

[Grib]

What other evidence?

[Vampirate]

I'm a VT, still here, just went into introvert mode right now.

[Grib]

Is that what they're calling it these days?

[Rubicon]

PointY, what did you mean by 2246 and 2249?

[PointYBagelS]

What other evidence?

Well the fact that I was a relatively early Klingon voter for one. After a quick vote for Peacebringer I pretty much sheeped Ricastle all day, considering that Klingon flipped scum this seems like odd behavior for a teammate of hers. The fact that I was a counterwagon to Klingon doesn't help your case either, though it would require Errant, RIP, elusive, or peace to be scum.


PEDIT: @Rubicon - The game seemed like it had a lot of power roles. At that point I already knew that Ricastle was the friendly neighbor, Peace claimed tracker, and I thought Grib was a vig. I was under the impression that there wouldn't be a doctor because it would make the game too townsided. Clearly, I may have been wrong, but at the same time Scum had both an encryptor and a roleblocker: very good roles. I do think the current claims point to there being 4.5 total scum if all the people claiming PR are telling the truth though.

[Vampirate]

Is that what they're calling it these days?

Sure lol. Well one difference is i'm stating where my mind state is at right now.

[Grib]

What other evidence?

Well the fact that I was a relatively early Klingon voter for one. After a quick vote for Peacebringer I pretty much sheeped Ricastle all day, considering that Klingon flipped scum this seems like odd behavior for a teammate of hers.

I guess this is okay for now.

The fact that I was a counterwagon to Klingon doesn't help your case either, though it would require Errant, RIP, elusive, or peace to be scum.

But this is not.

Taly, Pisskop, and I have all been Klingon counterwagons. I think that gives me a slight townlean for them.

[Grib]

I'm just saying, you're living on borrowed time.

I'll feel dumb for accusing you once we lynch them and the game ends. Otherwise, I'm coming for you.

[Vampirate]

What other evidence?

Well the fact that I was a relatively early Klingon voter for one. After a quick vote for Peacebringer I pretty much sheeped Ricastle all day, considering that Klingon flipped scum this seems like odd behavior for a teammate of hers. The fact that I was a counterwagon to Klingon doesn't help your case either, though it would require Errant, RIP, elusive, or peace to be scum.

You do realize i've been actively scum hunting KC early on Day 2 and viciously defended Ricastle.

How can you use this to excuse yourself and agree with elusive's case on me? The logic that would be applied to you would automatically have to be applied to me.

[Vampirate]

@Grib: Do you believe KC actually knew Ricastle's role? Or do you believe she made that up?

[Nero Cain]

has Taly claimed yet?

[PointYBagelS]

You'll note I qualified that statement with who would need to be scum for it to make any sense. Considering that they are probably all town, you can consider that null.

That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if one of the PR claims is scum, especially if 2 remain.

What other evidence?

Well the fact that I was a relatively early Klingon voter for one. After a quick vote for Peacebringer I pretty much sheeped Ricastle all day, considering that Klingon flipped scum this seems like odd behavior for a teammate of hers. The fact that I was a counterwagon to Klingon doesn't help your case either, though it would require Errant, RIP, elusive, or peace to be scum.

You do realize i've been actively scum hunting KC early on Day 2 and viciously defended Ricastle.

How can you use this to excuse yourself and agree with elusive's case on me? The logic that would be applied to you would automatically have to be applied to me.

It can and it does. You'll note I'm not voting you.