NY 183 - Apocalypse Mafia

[RIP]

Nero has possible scum % but he feels pure Nero here. He's a good player so I'm sure he could coast as scum here

[Grib]

So, I lied. I only have three powers. The Guard was a bluff to fuck with scum.

Like I'd really have two protective abilities. Even without a claimed Doc that would sound incredibly fake.

Anyway, I doubt everyone would buy 'oh I decided not to use my ability again! ha ha silly me' and I'm kind of ready for this game to be over.

Also, weren't we supposed to be clearing PeaceBringer? I 'protect' BBT, BBT protects someone and PB has to tell us who BBT visited.

And then PB comes in with a 'nowhere' on Taly of all people?

[Nero Cain]

he'd have to be an SK and lying about his bodyguard power. I kinda wondered about him having two doc protects AND there being a full town doc but you have an inno on Errant and those missed kills...although, one thought is that in a normal game th last scum can't BOTH nk ans use thier power so scum using their power instead of the nk would explain the lack of a night kill but Boons would have to be a recruitable traitor for him to be lying about doc.

[Grib]

I mean it's pointless now since BBT revealed he protected Rubicon, but.

???

[Nero Cain]

Its just words. The other explanation is that scum did not nk and used their power instead.

[RIP]

Rip work

I'm going to be honest I'm dreading reading through this game as i am sick and not emotionally involved in it.

Get well soon.

It's not such a bad read if you're fairly well rested. My first read-through sucked in a mighty way, but the second wasn't bad at all.

Anyhoo - here's what I got so far:

Garmr - Inconclusive.

Grib - playing his Town game.

Kitz - Town. Her Scum game reminds me of an old friend's (from a long-dead board) posting style, I'm not seeing that here.

Do you have anything on the Boon wagon, jbomber, or Skold?

Can you give me an example of a game where Grib played like this as town?

The Boon wagon is bullshit. Boon is Boon. Wait till Day 2, if he really is Scum, he'll fall apart and slip soon enough.

I don't know JBomber or Skold, reading them will come much later.

I went through Grib's entire meta, every game. Everything here seems like his normal everyday Town game to me.

@Shinobi - Has Boons been prodded?

Honest ta gawd I'm ready to vote for him. Something like 14 posts the whole game, none of which say anything useful.

I could go all this Day saying BoonScum, does that make it true?

(It helps if you have some sort of reason behind your claim.)

Despite this suspicion, all her questions are directed toward others

about

KC, instead of toward KC herself.

Additionally she has never voted KC even now as a wagon is building.

Because he wants to avoid suspicion when I flip Town.

Boons is hard to figure out. I thought he was Scum, then figured he might actually be a PR.

The good news is that he's gone.

I'm sad we lost Creative, but at least he was a VT, not a PR.

Why were 2 people killed?

Ok so I don't see anything about Kling that tells me she's town. She's not Obv scum either but she is not game solving and just fluffs a lot.

I also find weird she has boon as town even thought he's really tunneling her.
She even points out that wago img him is bad... As he is still building a wagon on her.

Then when he dies she thinks he could be a PR... A PR that's calling u scum...
Why would u ink he is PR if he's Obv wrong if u are town?
Ur trollish style always ping me, btw.

VOTE: klingon

vote:peacebringer

join me RIP

If Peace is scum then so is Klingon. Stop wasting time and join the larger wagon

I rather vote Klingon. I haven't even read the peace guy but he's was in my spot scum.
Could do either but I gotta see what he is about for myself.
Any reasons or cases?

I think Bonkiies needs to signal and that's a strong signal if u ask me.
Also at the time no one was pushing KLing.
So why take that line as scum? Calling attention to urself?
Maybe u want to be "noticed"

Who shot boon? Is that been talked about?

I'm down to lunch Nero. That way we can play the game and look for clues etc.
I wouldn't be surprise he is scum.

Nero asking me to join peace wagon is funny. Given I'm a scum lol

I'm asking you to see if you'd jump given that both you and House have/had him as scum but neither of you have pushed him. And you took the path of least resistance and voted Celt without being fully caught up and jazz

.

Like there's only 3 scum left so part of me is thinking that maybe Peace is scum and thus KNOWS Celt is town. Like the idea of a elusive/PB/RIP team is pretty appealing.

This is an attempt to make me look bad for no reason. U believe I'm scum but doesn't mean u gotta make stuff up.
I had zero reads. I think KLing is a good killed based on boon flip not her own play per say.
She's not scummy but it's not obv town either and I dot see her trying to solve the game.
That's enough for me

Wow is town usually consider to be in the top posters? Or there's some scum who do this too?
Where I come from is normal for top 10 posters in big games to be town at a crazy 90% rate. Meaning one and mayyyyybe 2 at most scum ever make top 10 in post.

Now u look at top 5 lowest and there's a scum 30% sample was 10 recent games. One game had 3/5 scum in bottom lol

Edit nero has 300+ too.
So
PEACE
NERO
Ricastle
Grib
Are all over 200+ this is not including house who also had about 200 even before subbing out.
If we go by my reads I believe grib is some sort of power, ricastle is OBV town claim or not. Peace could be town since no cc so we shouldn't worry now.
Nero is not the cool town im used, if someone is scum in top poster is him. Part of me want to say based on posts he's prob not though.
I won't worry about it.
What we need to worry about right now is this other findings.

Let's do bad things to these scummy good for nothing lurkers.

Wow madmanhas 19 post since April 25th? Over 3 weeks and now he's missing...
Suspect number one.
Then

Dave
Errant
Taly just subbed in and towny but had to add cuz her Bella before her was super low content.
Vampire
All at less than 50

But seriously how is madman even around? Sub or lynch

Nero I actually think I wanna go a diff route.

Low hanging rotten fruit.


Elusive is scummy, madman is prod and is most likely scum without having to read any of his 19 posts in over 3 weeks.
Dave has been well not here, taly is good I think I like her, errant posts looked town to me, don't know how well he scums but I read a few post defending himself and they sounded truthful.
Vampire could be scum, low activity and flying under the radar like Dave and madman. I also found him to have a bad voting record but at the time I didn't have much to go on.

I'm gonna look at that post I made knowing the activity levels and see what I find

Wow madmanhas 19 post since April 25th? Over 3 weeks and now he's missing...
Suspect number one.
Then

Dave
Errant
Taly just subbed in and towny but had to add cuz her Bella before her was super low content.
Vampire
All at less than 50

But seriously how is madman even around? Sub or lynch

pointy is another one

True, I cut the list at the 60 mark. Pointy has 87 so there was a big gap compared to others.
My point of comparison was people who has participated less than the mod.

Shinobi has just over 60 posts so I imcluded anyone below him.

Let's do this,
VOTE: rationalmad follow me on this journey. We won't lose anything anyways

[Grib]

I thought the last scum /could/ use their power + NK if they're the last one alive? Usually if there's more than one they have to delegate?

[Nero Cain]

not in a normal, no

[RIP]

That's weird. I try to spoiled. Sorry

Yes I read his claim and the protection.
I believe him.

Nero what power is more important for scum than killing us? Please explain.
Either I was targeted or rubi was

[RIP]

Yea I'm not sure about that. Still killing is the most important scum power so let's just go with a failed kill.
Did grib set on s final power? He said he was gonna protect me... I think I was the target.

Grib can say he will protect me and that made errant/bbt protect rubi and then try to kill me at night

[RIP]

So, I lied. I only have three powers. The Guard was a bluff to fuck with scum.

Like I'd really have two protective abilities. Even without a claimed Doc that would sound incredibly fake.

Anyway, I doubt everyone would buy 'oh I decided not to use my ability again! ha ha silly me' and I'm kind of ready for this game to be over.

Also, weren't we supposed to be clearing PeaceBringer? I 'protect' BBT, BBT protects someone and PB has to tell us who BBT visited.

And then PB comes in with a 'nowhere' on Taly of all people?

Yes I want to know more about this but you also set me up so I wouldn't be protected by doc....
Why wouod u say I'll be protected?

[RIP]

Super tired guys. Going to sleep
Grib has to be scum here

[Grib]

I lied because I've used up all my powers, but only I knew that. It has the same effect since scum are going to assume I'm trueclaiming and shoot someone else.

[Grib]

Also, I was quite clearly not going to protect you last Night since we planned on clearing PB, and that involved making sure the Doc lived through the Night.

And BBT was supposed to protect someone random and force PB to claim the target.

So you could have been shot last Night, when you were actually publicly vulnerable, but you weren't.

[Rubicon]

I don't understand a single thing RIP said in the last two pages.

[Rubicon]

Also you guys are making me feel old with all your cartoon references. Like, Sloth levels of oldness. shudders.

Maybe RIP is just trolling scum?

[Rubicon]

What if Grib is lying about lying about his powers?

How deep does the rabbit hole go?

[Grib]

>complains about oldness
>has an avatar of a wrinkly old man

[PeaceBringer]

Umm, wasn't the plan discussed this day?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Indeed it was.

So RIP is prob lying, right?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Like, scum having two role blockers is highly unlikely.

And I don't know what else would have stopped him getting a result.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

But then, I don't know why RIP would lie...it would be easy for him to claim an inno on someone if he was scum...

Shall we get on with lynching Drixx and move this game forward?

[Grib]

Was it discussed today?

Is my memory that bad???

[BlueBloodedToffee]

It sure was. I only replaced in during the night so we couldn't have discussed it Yesterday.

[PeaceBringer]

so that has me concerned about grib...
1st of all, he claimed to have an active bodyguard
now claiming he was supposedly protecting BBT when there was no reason to...
then started pointing at me...with lol, taly