*GAME OVER* Mini 1690 - Zed's Tavern! (Mafia Win!)

[dragonspawn]

Okay dragonspawn is more likely to be town due to the claim. Wooo

Not sure that's a good read either. Don't get me wrong it's a true, but what if I was lying scum?

[zakk]

I'm still reading this game, I stopped at night because I hate putting possibly-worthless effort into a game you might not even be in any more, come morning. About half way through

[pisskop]

Did you think you were likely to be killed?

[zakk]

Okay dragonspawn is more likely to be town due to the claim. Wooo

Not sure that's a good read either. Don't get me wrong it's a true, but what if I was lying scum?

Then it'd come out eventually

We already lynched an SK, who is usually the non-town player with a bulletproof ability. If there's another bulletproof Townie, who either claims or flips, you'd be on the chopping block because of sheer probability, and if there's a doc, same.

[zakk]

Okay dragonspawn is more likely to be town due to the claim. Wooo

Not sure that's a good read either. Don't get me wrong it's a true, but what if I was lying scum?

Then it'd come out eventually

We already lynched an SK, who is usually the non-town player with a bulletproof ability. If there's another bulletproof Townie, who either claims or flips, you'd be on the chopping block because of sheer probability, and if there's a doc, same.

[zakk]

Not sure why you're trying to get me to doubt a town lean though, specifically when it's on you.

[pisskop]

Nope. Its not all that uncommon to have an 'SK mimic' in games. A towny with BP, fruit vendor, or some combination.

[dragonspawn]

Did you think you were likely to be killed?

No. I didn't.

[pisskop]

Did you think you were likely to be killed?

No. I didn't.

That was @ Zakk, but its good to know this.

[SilverWolf]

NY 182 had an SK and a town BP fruit vendor.

I believe dragon's claim because he's townie right now. Not wanting to be townread too quickly is townie as well.

[dragonspawn]

Not sure why you're trying to get me to doubt a town lean though, specifically when it's on you.

I tend to think bad reasoning is bad even if it helps you.

[SilverWolf]

I feel like openly and obviously buddying dragon for the rest of the game.

Perhaps we can build a campfire and sing songs or something.

[dragonspawn]

Yeah wolf is definitely town. No one who likes music can be bad.

And yes that was a joke.

[dragonspawn]

Sort of like no one who speaks German can be rvil

[zakk]

No, I didn't think I was likely to be killed, but neither did dragonspawn. And it's happened to me before. And I swore to never do it again. I personally think I'm a high contender for a lynch candidate, given the amount of lazy play this game, and the fact that I've already claimed my role and its just a VT i.e. an "acceptable loss" so I have no delusions about certain players being lazy enough to just be like "well, let's lynch zakk I guess" at some point

[dragonspawn]

I actually am liking zakk at the moment.

Wolf anyone you think needs a closer look?

[Aeronaut]

Yea zakk is sort of null for me right now.

[SilverWolf]

No, I didn't think I was likely to be killed, but neither did dragonspawn. And it's happened to me before. And I swore to never do it again. I personally think I'm a high contender for a lynch candidate, given the amount of lazy play this game, and the fact that I've already claimed my role and its just a VT i.e. an "acceptable loss" so I have no delusions about certain players being lazy enough to just be like "well, let's lynch zakk I guess" at some point

No, we are not lynching you because you are a VT. Please stop with the defeatist attitude.

dragon-I'll get back to you on that soon, Grimmjow is definitely a scumread, Shiro leans town, more to come

[Billi bilaði]

Mini 1690:
Day 1 voting:
Red votes are obsolete votes, i.e. retracted or vote moved.
Structure:
"x:" is the number of the vote within the day. (1st vote, 2nd vote, etc.)
"xx" is the number of the post in which the vote was cast.
"name" of the player that cast the vote.

Players	Day 1 voting
dragonspawn	9: 18 Billi	12: 34 dj_red_lantern
SilverWolf	4: 9 Mahonster
pisskop	2: 7 zakk
Aeronaut	1: 6 SilverWolf	5: 11 Chevre	8: 17 pisskop	14: 61 zakk	21: 175 Chevre
Mahonster	11: 23 Quaroath
davesaz (dj)
BlockyMan	25: 216 pisskop	29: 359 Quaroath
Billi bilaði	10: 20 dragonspawn
Quaroath	15: 68 Mahonster
Chevre	19: 167 Grimmjow	20: 174 dragon	22: 177 Silver	23: 179 Quaroath	24: 195 dave	26: 270 Billi	30: 392 Aeronaut	31: 413 pisskop
Grimmjow
zakk	3: 8 Shiro	6: 12 BlockyMan	13: 48 dragon	16: 111 Grimmjow	17: 113 Chevre	18: 115 Billi	27: 299 Aeronaut	28: 336 pisskop
Shiro	7: 13 Aeronaut

Wagons:
1 L-1: zakk:

Shiro

, Blocky, dragon, Grimm, Chevre, Billi (Shiro unvotes)
2 L-1: Chevre: Grimm, dragon, Silver,

Quaroath

, dave, Billi (Quaroath unvotes)
3 L-0: Chevre: Grimm, dragon, Silver, dave, Billi, Aeronaut,

pisskop Lynches

I believe that such info can sometimes help in analyzing alignment patterns.


Reads on day 1:

Reader\Player	dragon	Silver	pisskop	Aeronaut	Mahonster	davesaz	Blocky	Billi	Quaroath	Chevre	Grimm	zakk	Shiro
dragonspawn	XXXXX	mt	mt	mt						ms		nr ( wt ms )
SilverWolf	mt (wt)	XXXXX		mt			ws	ws (ms)		ws	ws	wt
pisskop		st	XXXXX	ws			ws			ms	ws	ms (ws)
Aeronaut	mt			XXXXX				ws		ms		ms
Mahonster	st				XXXXX
davesaz		st		mt	wt	XXXXX				ms
BlockyMan							XXXXX					ss
Billi bilaði								XXXXX		ms		ms
Quaroath									XXXXX	ms
Chevre		ws		ws						XXXXX		ms
Grimmjow			ws							ss	XXXXX	wt ( ss )
zakk	mt	st (mt)		ms						wt	ws (nr)	XXXXX
Shiro	mt	mt	wt	mt	nr	nr		ws	wt	ms	nr	ws ( mt )	XXXXX

Now, the vote table is just plain facts, but the reads table, on the other hand, is often my personal take on how players are indicating their reads.
Am I way off of some reads, or missing any obvious ones?

[Shiro]

I know effort should not show alliances but the above seems really town

zakk does seem townier this day which tbh is leaving me with a small group of people I am not townreading. I am really left with townreads and a bunch of nulls cause of inactivity

[dragonspawn]

What do the colors mean?

[dragonspawn]

Nm I figured it out

[Quaroath]

I'm so gd confused right now.

@Zakk - aero vs pisskop, who and why.
@Mahonster - Where are you at going forward with Day 2. You didn't make much of your time in D1.

VOTE: grimm

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[dragonspawn]

I don't like the fact that I keep forgetting Dave is in this game.

[dragonspawn]

I'm so gd confused right now.

@Zakk - aero vs pisskop, who and why.
@Mahonster - Where are you at going forward with Day 2. You didn't make much of your time in D1.

VOTE: grimm

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Q: Same question you asked zakk