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Post Post #1125 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:52 pm

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In post 1110, ProHawk wrote:I guess one important fact is that scum-team's morale has got to be at an all time low. Bad draw of inactive players, I bet their chat doesn't top... 10 pages. Top that off with me calling out their scum-mates on D1, and driving Marcrell/PN to the grave and well I don't blame them. Add to that the frustration of a nightless game.

Players that match low morale:

Nyanokotachi

Burn

Mario
- but he is almost assuredly scum given his "attempt" to justify his slip and then completely dropping off the map.

Re-reading Nyano's ISO, I'm not entirely convinced they were scum given their reactions and targets. Burn is likely scum, and I am kinda liking Lucky as his partner.

Sorry Kari, I know I said Boon needed to die for his vote on you, but I kinda saw his trajectory in his posts, it just wasn't that apparent in his naked vote post :(.

This post alone will rule out Bella being scum for a while.

I've been going back and forth on BBT. Some days, I am sure he is town, then I read a couple posts, and it throws doubt. I don't like that he is the additional wagon to Mario though. I think I just like his contributions to the progress of the game mostly. I also think the thing I hate most is how much he has passively defended scum.

I can't really objectively look at Random, conf-bias and all.

Given the response of known scum re:ZZZZX, I don't really think he is scum.

And that about covers it. I can't decide who is scummier among Burn and Lucky. They both have 100%, so I can't differentiate there. PN put both Mario and Burn in his town pile. Out of his scum pile, Lucky is the only scum in it that I can see. Soo... I think I will

Target: Lucky


Top that off with Lucky seemingly trying to walk on egg-shells with my recent attempt at a reach-out isn't sitting well with me.

I really hope the difficulty in choosing between Lucky and Burn is because they are both scum.

Mkay liked this post tho. Pretty well done. But I still am going after BBT. i believe good scum would raise there "acting morale" if they want to have a step in the game, so i doubt that the entire scum team is at low morales
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Post Post #1126 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:52 pm

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In post 1116, Lucky2u wrote:
target: zzzx

Interesting
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Post Post #1127 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:53 pm

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In post 1118, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1116, Lucky2u wrote:
target: zzzx



what made you change from BBT to ZZ?

"ZZZX was my town read and BBT was my scum read., ZZZX caught me and BBT faking a bus and voted me. MUST DAMAGE HIM"

How accurate was I. remind me about this in the post-game
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Post Post #1128 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:03 pm

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In post 1127, ZZZX wrote:
In post 1118, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1116, Lucky2u wrote:
target: zzzx



what made you change from BBT to ZZ?

"ZZZX was my town read and BBT was my scum read., ZZZX caught me and BBT faking a bus and voted me. MUST DAMAGE HIM"

How accurate was I. remind me about this in the post-game


I had you as a town read? You caught me? You haven't done anything remotely to have "caught" me.
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Post Post #1129 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:08 pm

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I'm taking a tip from ProHawk and looking at interactions. Zzzx never interacts with pn until the vote he makes where he is suddenly %100 behind the wagon. I know we are killing Mario but zzzx should be the other target.
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Post Post #1130 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:33 pm

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has bella taken any noteable stances this game?
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #1131 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:49 pm

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Yes, quite a few, go read the link from my post.
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Post Post #1132 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:42 pm

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In post 1128, Lucky2u wrote:
In post 1127, ZZZX wrote:
In post 1118, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1116, Lucky2u wrote:
target: zzzx



what made you change from BBT to ZZ?

"ZZZX was my town read and BBT was my scum read., ZZZX caught me and BBT faking a bus and voted me. MUST DAMAGE HIM"

How accurate was I. remind me about this in the post-game


I had you as a town read? You caught me? You haven't done anything remotely to have "caught" me.

I believe in the gut that caught half the scum team. Thus you die after bbt, no matter how much you discredit me if I ever flip we both know how much in deep crap it will be. For you cant discredit me after I catch nearly everyone in the scum team.

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Post Post #1133 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:43 pm

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In post 1129, Lucky2u wrote:I'm taking a tip from ProHawk and looking at interactions. Zzzx never interacts with pn until the vote he makes where he is suddenly %100 behind the wagon. I know we are killing Mario but zzzx should be the other target.

And my puny english skills cant make sense out of this

anyway you die after BBT, or even before, I am not even sure.

This is itneresting.
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Post Post #1134 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:47 pm

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In post 1124, ZZZX wrote:
In post 1102, ProHawk wrote:I have too many scum reads. This can't be correct.

And you droped 100 town points

you attacked me for not having many town reads and "having open options as scum"

then you drop this post

I doubt there is a need for me to explain why this post is bad right?


You're right, it was more out of frustration from the generalized poor activity level/play from many people. My reads formed quite nicely I think after I spent time to sort stuff.
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Post Post #1135 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:51 pm

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I can't even understand a gut feeling that bbt are scum partners. You need some peptobismo to fix that gut of yours. Where exactly did you catch half the scum team anyway? You certainly weren't a leading cause for PN's lynch so you've caught 0 confirmed scum so far. You drunk posting brah?
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Post Post #1136 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:53 pm

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In post 1134, ProHawk wrote:
In post 1124, ZZZX wrote:
In post 1102, ProHawk wrote:I have too many scum reads. This can't be correct.

And you droped 100 town points

you attacked me for not having many town reads and "having open options as scum"

then you drop this post

I doubt there is a need for me to explain why this post is bad right?


You're right, it was more out of frustration from the generalized poor activity level/play from many people. My reads formed quite nicely I think after I spent time to sort stuff.


eh, I apologize for my part in that poor activity, I moved at the beginning of the month and it's been alot of adjusting and chores since then.
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Post Post #1137 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:46 pm

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MarioManiac4 has failed to pick up his prod and is as such being replaced. I'm afraid the deadline is once more going to be paused until replacements are found.
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Post Post #1138 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:48 pm

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Fuck that shit, just move on to the next phase, else I'm replacing out too.

If they didn't put in a target, then ignore their action in the action phase and/or mod kill them while looking for a replacement. We shouldn't have to wait days to weeks for one-two bad apples.
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Post Post #1139 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:50 pm

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If you can't find a replacement for the slot within 72 hours, please mod kill it.

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Post Post #1140 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:52 pm

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Players not taking action really screws up the balance of the game, I also do not know what to do right now. Thanks to all of you who did stick with the game, it's appreciated.
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Post Post #1141 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:54 pm

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Nyankotachi's slot should also be euthanized if a replacement cannot be found within a reasonable period of time.
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Post Post #1142 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:54 pm

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In post 1140, Arceus wrote:
Players not taking action really screws up the balance of the game, I also do not know what to do right now. Thanks to all of you who did stick with the game, it's appreciated.



How about you make the action for them based on what would be logical, then? Every Pokemon has 2-4 moves, it isn't difficult to automate that.
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Post Post #1143 (ISO) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:56 pm

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If the next phase doesn't start in 5 days (120 hours), I
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replace out.

I suppose that sounds reasonable.
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Post Post #1144 (ISO) » Sat Jul 11, 2015 3:12 am

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In post 1135, Lucky2u wrote:I can't even understand a gut feeling that bbt are scum partners. You need some peptobismo to fix that gut of yours. Where exactly did you catch half the scum team anyway? You certainly weren't a leading cause for PN's lynch so you've caught 0 confirmed scum so far. You drunk posting brah?

No

Am resisting now switching to you from bbt.
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Post Post #1145 (ISO) » Sat Jul 11, 2015 3:13 am

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In post 1134, ProHawk wrote:
In post 1124, ZZZX wrote:
In post 1102, ProHawk wrote:I have too many scum reads. This can't be correct.

And you droped 100 town points

you attacked me for not having many town reads and "having open options as scum"

then you drop this post

I doubt there is a need for me to explain why this post is bad right?


You're right, it was more out of frustration from the generalized poor activity level/play from many people. My reads formed quite nicely I think after I spent time to sort stuff.

Cool. Ur town
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Post Post #1146 (ISO) » Sat Jul 11, 2015 4:38 am

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I have 4 things I can currentely do and I feel as a mod that I should let my players choose how this game goes, everyone in-thread or via PM must order them into a list from most wanted to least and I'll take action depending on the result.
The choices are:
  • Abandon the game.
  • Mod-kill the needed replacement slots.
  • Let the slots take no action.
  • Continue this phase and wait for replacements.

Everyone has 1 day to give their list, once that has passed I'll take the chosen option.
Deadline: (expired on 2015-07-12 11:38:53)
Once again thanks to all those that have played, your loss of interest is understandable. Whatever happens I plan to redo this setup later and I'll make sure to fix the things that don't work well. (Like making the target system work even with inactivity.)
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Post Post #1147 (ISO) » Sat Jul 11, 2015 4:47 am

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Forgot to add this:
The mafia's choice counts more than a towns choice as to make it more fair on them if they have any of them amongst the replaced.
Don't use this as evidence as alignment as this would have been done whatever the situation was, and using it may blow up in your face.
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Post Post #1148 (ISO) » Sat Jul 11, 2015 4:49 am

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I really love the setup you created Arc, but the players replacing in and out have really killed the game.
I'd vote to abandon.
If you ever run the setup again, I am a pre-in for sure.
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Post Post #1149 (ISO) » Sat Jul 11, 2015 5:25 am

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I agree.

I think the game becomes unbalanced if you have to modkill the replacements and even more so if you allow them to take no action.

Abandon game for me.


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