NY 187: Pariah's Mafia [/FIN]

[pisskop]

Votecount 2.11

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davesaz

- (5) Keysor Söze, garmr, BlueBloodedToffee, Aeronaut, Bulbazoor

garmr

- (3) Dragonspawn, Boonskiies, davesaz

Kop

- (1) Titus

BlueBloodedToffee

- (1) FA_Q2

Dragonspawn

- (1) duppin

Aeronaut

- (1) Shazam

FA_Q2

- (1) Radiant Cowbells

Titus

- (1) Kitty Galore

Not Voting:

Ankamius, Kop, TheDominator37

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With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch.
Deadline is 17AUG15, (expired on 2015-08-17 12:00:00)

Seeking replacement for Kop

[Titus]

@Ank, I would skim the ISOs of Dave, Garmr, and Dragon if you didn't feel comfortable adopting my no read play style.

[Ankamius]

I got through half of Garmr's ISO and I'm feeling town there right now. Next.

[Ankamius]

I can definitely see davesaz being likely scum. Just look at 167+254 together and apply that context to the rest of his ISO and it's pretty clear how fake it all is.

[Ankamius]

Rc not sharing information is not alignment indicative. It's commonplace.

I'm still perplexed at how I am overreacting to anything by asking questions, making notes, and pointing out sword masters omgus vote and the odd choice of voting for me because I pointed it out.

Isn't the point of this game to get out of rvs, ask questions, make arguments and make notes of odd things? If making notes of odd behavior is defensiveness and scummy then isn't your making a note of my "strange" behavior scummy as well?

What exactly is the appropriate reaction to three random votes? One being an omgus, and two for no given reason whatsoever? Was I supposed to ignore it? Was I supposed to not note it? Was I not supposed to ask what is scummy about pointing out an omgus vote? Kind of important to get into the mind of people isn't it? Especially when there doesn't seem to be anything random about the supposedly random votes.

Am I not supposed to point out inconsistent reasoning? At what point do I get too defensive? And is defensiveness even really scummy?

Im not liking bella's hedging in that post. Trying to look like she agrees with the wagon without going for it all the way. Serious vote time:

VOTE: bella

I do have to say I do like the fact that my vote for sword got us out of the rvs though I never suspected it would.

...what is this?

[Ankamius]

The Keyser thing overall makes dragonspawn look a whole lot worse. I don't like that slot either.

[Shazam]

I can definitely see davesaz being likely scum. Just look at 167+254 together and apply that context to the rest of his ISO and it's pretty clear how fake it all is.

Took you up on your offer. From my POV, you could have said the same thing about any two posts of his, and it would have made the same amount of sense. I saw two posts that looked completely normal to me, had nothing to do with each other, and shed no additional light on the rest of his posts in this game. Would you like to explain why it should be clear that he's fake?

[RadiantCowbells]

I haven't really read Daves much but I'm ok with the wagon in general.

[Ankamius]

I can definitely see davesaz being likely scum. Just look at 167+254 together and apply that context to the rest of his ISO and it's pretty clear how fake it all is.

Took you up on your offer. From my POV, you could have said the same thing about any two posts of his, and it would have made the same amount of sense. I saw two posts that looked completely normal to me, had nothing to do with each other, and shed no additional light on the rest of his posts in this game. Would you like to explain why it should be clear that he's fake?

167 = Weak reads based on relatively strong reasoning.
254 = Relatively strong read based on weak reasoning.

[Ankamius]

Basically, I'm getting a big impression that he wants to look busy, but can't find any good reasons to attack people when he has to put a vote down.

[Garmr]

@dave
Dragon spawn is scummy for these reasons

Constantly defensive when pushed

Is playing dumb constantly so he can shift his vote

Gut from playing with him before

Post 303- seems like he has some knowledge of who scum is. Saying I'm not busting my buddies feels like a slip.

Post 484 seems like his trying to justify the double voter as town making me suspect he is the double voter or at least on the same team

Post 500 seems like a attempt to push Anna as the big kill making me think he killed Anna

[Garmr]

What else is intreasting is That he thought kling was townie as hell yet didn't question blue over the kill even through he was so adament on the night kill

[Titus]

What else is intreasting is That he thought kling was townie as hell yet didn't question blue over the kill even through he was so adament on the night kill

There's too many pronouns for me to understand this. Can you rephrase this and give post references?

[Titus]

@dave
Dragon spawn is scummy for these reasons

Constantly defensive when pushed

Is playing dumb constantly so he can shift his vote

Gut from playing with him before

Post 303- seems like he has some knowledge of who scum is. Saying I'm not busting my buddies feels like a slip.

Post 484 seems like his trying to justify the double voter as town making me suspect he is the double voter or

at least on the same team

Post 500 seems like a attempt to push Anna as the big kill making me think he killed Anna

What? Who says there are multiple teams?

Why can't it be Large team, SK, Vig

[Garmr]

Titus I mentioned those posiblities before

[Titus]

Then you're stretching to make a case on dragon...

[Titus]

Can you rephrase the post I asked about?

[Garmr]

Titus first tell me how I'm stretching to make a case on ds otherwise your just stretching to defend him

[Garmr]

What else is intreasting is That he thought kling was townie as hell yet didn't question blue over the kill even through he was so adament on the night kill

There's too many pronouns for me to understand thistledown. Can you rephrase this and give post references?

dragon was pushing that Anna would of been the big kill but when blue said she wasn't dragon didn't even question it

[RadiantCowbells]

If BBT hasn't claimed his target, he should do so.

[dragonspawn]

I don't understand this garmr is town because he was willing to take a nk by fake claiming cop.

He didn't fake claim cop. In fact he made in repeatedly clear he wasn't claiming for himself but for someone else (rc). How is he risking a nk for a cop if he is specifically saying it's not his claim. The whole he is town because of that argument makes as much sense as a screen door on a submarine

So really what's the town motivation for lying about someone else being a cop and claiming a townie was found guilty?

[dragonspawn]

What else is intreasting is That he thought kling was townie as hell yet didn't question blue over the kill even through he was so adament on the night kill

There's too many pronouns for me to understand thistledown. Can you rephrase this and give post references?

dragon was pushing that Anna would of been the big kill but when blue said she wasn't dragon didn't even question it

Why would I question it? He claimed vig. It was obvious to me he was telling the truth. He said he killed kling and gave a reason. What more do I need to know on the subject?

[Titus]

VOTE: Garmr

RC, BBT claimed he shot Klingon.

[RadiantCowbells]

All of my scumreads are jumping on the Garmr wagon and I still really like the Daves wagon minus Aero.

VOTE: Davesaz

[Garmr]

Titus voted me I'm now confirmed town