NY 188: Delicious Mafia II (Post-game chatter)

[Annadog40]

You think it does help catch scum?

[Shinobi]

If by catching scum, you mean lynching the claimed serial killer over himself, then yes.

[SilverWolf]

Shinobi/Red/Texcat for scumteam?

[Shinobi]

Shinobi/Red/Texcat for scumteam?

Christ.

[SilverWolf]

@Texcat-Are you going to address your blatant contradiction in 2252 or do anything at all today except call for TSO to be lynched and the day to end?

@Shinobi-Are you going to address 2253?

[Shinobi]

@Texcat-Are you going to address your blatant contradiction in 2252 or do anything at all today except call for TSO to be lynched and the day to end?

@Shinobi-Are you going to address 2253?

What exactly am I addressing?

[SilverWolf]

I even went through his whole filter.
Everything looked fine. I saw no conflict of reads, no inconsistencies, and a bunch of posts with purpose to them.
Someone tell me what I'm supposed to be seeing here?

Explain what posts have purpose or make him town? Why is he a bad vote?

you people are so talkative

Are you going to do anything or explain your reads or your votes? Why Mah? Any other scumreads? Did you change your mind on me and if so, why?

I had reasons to both like and dislike that post.
Who is scum, exactly?

ive kind of been caught up on pushing tso so i haven't been thinking about this too much but mahonster annadog and kop are my strong scumreads rn
who do you think is scum shinobi?

Explain all your scumreads?

I had reasons to both like and dislike that post.
Who is scum, exactly?

ive kind of been caught up on pushing tso so i haven't been thinking about this too much but mahonster annadog and kop are my strong scumreads rn

who do you think is scum shinobi?

At one point or another today, I've listed:
Kop.
Mahonster.
I could easily see a world where anna is scum as well, so no argument there.

I'm a fan of your list, tbh.

Why on all these reads?

So you think Redf is scum?

Btw anyone have thoughts who I should investigate? I am kind of indecisive right now.

Sorry but this is best left as WIFOM for the scumteam. Do your best.

[goodmorning]

You apparently missed the entire point of the "just trust me part". It's not supposed to be discussed because hey guess what that's anti-town.

No, that's not how this game works. You don't get to not explain your reads and call people out for asking you why by saying "that's anti-town."

omg yes

you people are so talkative

Are you going to do anything or explain your reads or your votes? Why Mah? Any other scumreads? Did you change your mind on me and if so, why?

Mahon has been obviously Scum pretty much the whole game (at least, what I've read of it). There's not much more I can really say about that atm unless you're super desperate to have me make a case in which case I'll try a little harder.
I've been busy with school stuff, so I'm trying to work up the momentum to read the pages I haven't read all in one go so I can stop thinking about it.
I've mostly changed my mind on you because of your claim, which would make reasonable sense from Town or a Maf Traitor but not from groupscum probably. I'm discounting the Traitor atm because it's not very likely.
Though that would be one hell of a coincidence.

[redFF]

@mod v/la for a while
driving 300 miles and moving in to a new place, gonna be a hectic few days

[SilverWolf]

VOTE: redff posting from phone, but this is the dir ed crooning want to go today. Here or texcat/mah

Can you explain this vote? Also, explain if you still think mah is scum or who else is scum?

Firebringer-Who do you think is scum? You read on Red especially considering you are in a hood with him?

Shinobi-What's your objection to Texcat kill? Why is she town? I'm tired and can't remember if I asked you that in my last quote wall.

@Ozgin-If you don't want to lynch TSO, do you have a good idea on who you do think is scum today?

Skybird-Same question as Ozgin.

[SilverWolf]

@Ozgin-If you don't want to lynch TSO, do you have a good idea on who you do think is scum today?

Skybird-Same question as Ozgin.

@Nos-same question

All of you have indicated you don't want TSO lynched and are not voting anyone else.

Also, to all of you sheeping me-I appreciate your support but I would like a little more than sheeping SW because I could very easily be wrong and we need strong town voices is we are going to win.

[SilverWolf]

Narrowed things down to:

-Red-still not sure why he's town

-Quaroath-sheeping every popular vote

-Mahonster-your recent posts confuse me, you are kind of all over the place

-Lapsa-need some stronger stances on things

-Texcat-not doing anything resembling scumhunting or anything at all really

-And maybe GM-not enough explanation for reads, votes, and entrance still bugs me

-maybe Shinobi but this is the least likely, mostly here because I am having trouble finding good scumreads and he seems defensive about what happened in the hood with the "scumslip" business

[Shinobi]

I never explained my read on texcat, so don't worry about it.
iirc, tex is always kind of a lurker but her one redeeming feature is how transparent/direct she is as town. I haven't seen her being indecisive or directionless as she is as mafia, so I can't really justify a shot on her aside from the fact that "she's lurking," which really isn't a tell for her either way.

Plus, I don't really think the contradiction that you've listed for texcat is really that much of a contradiction. TSO is, after all, confirmed scum, so naturally the game changes a bit in regards to what needs to be discussed.

As for red, explain why he's scummy? I don't understand what you're looking for here, exactly.

[Shinobi]

If by "defensive," you mean "immediately explained what happened," then sure.

[goodmorning]

-And maybe GM-not enough explanation for reads, votes, and entrance still bugs me

Like I said, I'm getting there.

What about it?

[Fro99er]

Back later today, but I still think TSO needs to go.

[texcat]

@Texcat-Are you going to address your blatant contradiction in 2252 or do anything at all today except call for TSO to be lynched and the day to end?

@Shinobi-Are you going to address 2253?

Do I really have to explain why I opposed a flash lynch on a random person, and don't oppose a quick lynch on a known scum/anti-town?

So far TSO has gone after and killed two townies, Grayfoxx and Wake. And today he is going after two more, Red and me. Neither of us has done anything particularly scummy, except for vote for TSO, which I note is the same mistake that Wake made. How many dead townies will it take?

Everyone seems to be assuming that TSO is SK. I'm not so sure. TSO was caught by our cop and started scrambling, first claiming benign third party and when that didn't work, then claiming SK. I admire his resilience. He's fighting for his life. But he's doing exactly what I would expect a scum to do. There is no way to know whether is SK or scum until we see his flip.

There were three deaths last night, and the third could be explained by having a SK in the game. I'm sure if there is a SK and it's not TSO, he's having a very amusing day. Or the third death could be explained by multiball. I seem to recall that TSO was fairly adamant that we were playing single-ball Yesterday, and so I think multiball is a likely possibility. But the third death could also just be an extra scum kill or another vig of some sort.

For those naive enough to believe TSO's SK claim and think that he can be leashed, I ask how do you propose to leash him? How do you propose to decide who TSO kills?

[SilverWolf]

Again with the assumption that Red is town.

Can anyone look at his ISO starting on about [poist]1549[/post] and going through at least 1903 and not see that most of it is just filler.

I ask why people are saying he's town or not scum because maybe I'm missing something or in confbias mode and I'd like to be shown where I'm wrong if I am.

[SilverWolf]

Again with the assumption that Red is town.

Can anyone look at his ISO starting on about 1549 and going through at least 1903 and not see that most of it is just filler.

I ask why people are saying he's town or not scum because maybe I'm missing something or in confbias mode and I'd like to be shown where I'm wrong if I am.

EBWOP

[SilverWolf]

VOTE: TSO

Too much of a distraction and I feel like it interferes with my ability to do anything in this game and scum can easily hide behind it.

[texcat]

I'd guess it was the fact that I answered them, texaco my dear. Maybe if you were reading, you'd have seen that.

Seriously, read the game.

Thank you dearie, but I really would like an answer from Oz. His big bold questions were not answered in his unvote post.

Spoiler: Ozgin posts

First post from college dorm

But seriously, I come back and TSO is caught scum turned survivor turned serial killer? What in a farfandoogan fuck is going on? And let me ask this to everyone not voting TSO:

1) What is the point in leaving a Serial Killer alive?
2) If you plan on leashing him, how do you know you can trust him?
3) If you're gonna lynch him eventually anyways, why not just do it now? One less anti town role, right?
4) What if he's just lying scum anyways? Where's the merit in his claim after claiming something as stupid as Survivor?

Please, let's not be risky or edgy or stupid and lynch someone who is clearly not town, groupscum or not.

UNVOTE: TSO

I suppose I see your angle, TSO. That (at least vaguely) answers my questions, and I suppose if you lie you're dead anyways. But what do you get from aiding us? When scum is dead, so are you. Why would you bother to help us? What's your angle? How do you plan on winning by being our pet vig rather than just accepting that you're caught and surrendering your life to us? Like, I get it but don't get it.

[Nosferatu]

@Shinobi why is Kop scum to you?

[Shinobi]

@Shinobi why is Kop scum to you?

Because he's useless and inactive.

[Nosferatu]

That could be said for more than one person.

[Shinobi]

That could be said for more than one person.

Sure, who else?