NY 189 - Flower Viewing Festival [~fin~]

[pieguyn]

votecount 1.7

Fro99er (3) - Sakura Hana, pisskop, tn5421
Spiffeh (3) - Aeronaut, Shazam, Echo Echo

BananaCucho (2) - Salamence20, Spiffeh
Slandaar (2) - AxleGreaser, Shiro
Echo Echo (2) - Davsto, Fro99er

Not voting (7) - Ricastle, VeeGee, I Am Innocent, Flubbernugget, Slandaar, MarioManiac4, BananaCucho

With 19 alive, it takes 10 to lynch. Deadline is September 4, 18:10 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2015-09-04 18:10:00).

[pisskop]

echo, whats your level of mafia experience :X

its clear youve played before, dah?

[Fro99er]

Frogger, is there any reason to believe that your post volume would be indicative of anything? Otherwise i don't know why would someone even bring it up. Why do you think a supposed Echo-Scum would lie about something that can be verfied so easily?

Clearly echo has played with me, and is misrepresenting my posting volume by saying they've never seen me post so much. Why would they ever say that, when my posting volume is ALWAYS high as town??? Ask yourself that, instead of questioning me on that.

[Echo Echo]

Frogger, you have double the post count of Sakura Hana, charactistically the player in the game whom I betted on flooding the thread. Tell me your post count is at normal levels?

[Echo Echo]

Did you read the first post of Page 10? I suggest you read it.

[Sakura Hana]

Why would they ever say that, when my posting volume is ALWAYS high as town???

Frogger, I'm townreading you.

Shut the fuck up.

So uhh... what's the issue here again?

[pisskop]

Frogger, is there any reason to believe that your post volume would be indicative of anything? Otherwise i don't know why would someone even bring it up. Why do you think a supposed Echo-Scum would lie about something that can be verfied so easily?

echo's got a 'gutread' on spiffee, a currently afk player and one who has seen light pushing and no townreads yet

[Fro99er]

I'm just annoyed as hell. Anyone who's ever played with me as town knows that's fucking bullshit and a horrible misrep of my play to say "I've never seen frogger post so much". 100% made up, or never played with me.

Why would town make that up about me?

He's townreading me AFTER the fact.

[Fro99er]

Frogger, you have double the post count of Sakura Hana, charactistically the player in the game whom I betted on flooding the thread. Tell me your post count is at normal levels?

Easily at normal levels.

I was more than double the post count of 2nd place in refraction, right aero?

[Sakura Hana]

Frogger, is there any reason to believe that your post volume would be indicative of anything? Otherwise i don't know why would someone even bring it up. Why do you think a supposed Echo-Scum would lie about something that can be verfied so easily?

echo's got a 'gutread' on spiffee, a currently afk player and one who has seen light pushing and no townreads yet

^
Hmm i might agree with this.

[Echo Echo]

Do you really want to talk about refraction?

[AxleGreaser]

Fro99er before you open the spoiler *stop playing mafia for sec.* Ok so it might take 5 mins, to stop but then stop for a sec.
now read the spoiler.

Spoiler: @Fro99er

:-/

Lynch me people, and find scum on my wagon.

Ok, so you're up to saying, "lynch me", to prove a point.
Ok I am playing too.
and err what if i am town and perfectly willing to, (perhaps if i dont play it right), get lynched, while combing my wagon for scum?
and or getting hard town reads from the genuine pushes?

On my first brief read through all I got was muddy frog prints, and some people I am not totally familiar with playing tag.

[Fro99er]

Axle's also here. He responded to me once, but now he isn't responding.

This is exactly what he did when I lynched a bunch of townies (when I was town) in my first newbie game. He sat back and watch town lynch town.........

[Fro99er]

PEDIT: HI AXLE!!!!!!

[Echo Echo]

Just shut up and let other players get a chance to post, otherwise there are going to be replacements. Seriously.

[pisskop]

Im trying to get inside your head. figure you out.

so if it helps us understand you, yea.

pedit: @E2.

[Fro99er]

Do you really want to talk about refraction?

Yes, I do. I fucked shit up for town, I felt awful for a solid week, I apologized to the whole player base, including those who didn't want to hear it even though I was trying to make amends. It was the worst game of my life, and I felt like shit for it.

But it also left a strong town meta for me, and anyone who expects anything different from me (in terms of post count) as town is lying to themselves.

[pisskop]

Id rather you talk about your reads here though.

like your gutread. you know gutreads are reads that have reasons but we dont voice them? you shoukd voice them

[Echo Echo]

Well, my head says that if you guys keep spamming, people are going to get apathetic and leave.

[Sakura Hana]

Ugh this is confusing me.
What i get so far is that Echo comes into the thread ignoring everything that happened beforehand, says everything's nullish, then suddenly gets a gut scumread on spiffeh, what?
frogger doesn't like Echo for bringing up his post volume, despite echo using that to townread him. Seems like a weird angle.
frogger is voting Echo, Echo doesn't retaliate. Seems logical.

Can someone help sort through this?

[Fro99er]

So echo played refraction with me. Then why would he intentionally misrep my post count?

[Sakura Hana]

Well, my head says that if you guys keep spamming, people are going to get apathetic and leave.

What kind of posting speed were you expecting for a 5 day deadline game?

[Fro99er]

VOTE: tn5421

I like this more.

I'm done pissing off everyone. Echo is right. I need to stop.

[Echo Echo]

Do you really want to talk about refraction?

Yes, I do. I fucked shit up for town, I felt awful for a solid week, I apologized to the whole player base, including those who didn't want to hear it even though I was trying to make amends. It was the worst game of my life, and I felt like shit for it.

But it also left a strong town meta for me, and anyone who expects anything different from me (in terms of post count) as town is lying to themselves.

Glad you've finally accepted it.

Now, do you want to work out the alignments of players like Axlegreaser and Shiro and Aeronaut or are you going to let your vote remain on me for policy?

edit: Great move.

[AxleGreaser]

Axle's also here. He responded to me once, but now he isn't responding.

I will chat if you like.

pedit

Well, my head says that if you guys keep spamming, people are going to get apathetic and leave.

seems likely.

Re: Speed I expected (if i was lucky) was a little faster.