NY 189 - Flower Viewing Festival [~fin~]

[AxleGreaser]

@I am Innocent

I don't disagree with that and I'm getting a town vibe from you, hence my unvote.

Welcome to my town pool, (my views on IAI changed since 542) could i nterest you in voting the Shiny Davsto Wagon
Low mileage almost brand new.

[I Am Innocent]

shazam, who were the scum on my wagon?

[I Am Innocent]

I actually like everything about BananaCucho after I voted for him (he has a post similar to Axle's and I like his Frogger progression)

Which post was that?

Oh I see this now. Context: similar to Axle's in that they criticize people for defending them.
post 45

And do you disagree that it's early for a counter wagon to crop up against you?

I would think if I was scum, my scummates would be nervous...or bussing, being a 5 day deadline and no counterwagon and all. So either way, who is the scum on my wagon?

[I Am Innocent]

I actually like everything about BananaCucho after I voted for him (he has a post similar to Axle's and I like his Frogger progression)

Which post was that?

Oh I see this now. Context: similar to Axle's in that they criticize people for defending them.
post 45

So post 45 you think Banana is town, but that isn't what your saying in 105.

I don't get why everyone is getting so hot and bothered over my Banana vote lol

Makes me think there's something THERE!!!

unvote ricastle
vote spiffeh

[BananaCucho]

I would think that was what you were implying because that would be the only thing relevant to my statement about IaI. If you were being relevant, you were pointing out that my being against the IaI wagon should have something to do with me voting Salamence (which I disagreed with). If it was irrelevant, fine, but you should be able to see why I thought what I did.

Alright.

@I am Innocent

I don't disagree with that and I'm getting a town vibe from you, hence my unvote.

Welcome to my town pool, (my views on IAI changed since 542) could i nterest you in voting the Shiny Davsto Wagon
Low mileage almost brand new.

Yes, I am interested.

VOTE: Davsto

[BananaCucho]

I actually like everything about BananaCucho after I voted for him (he has a post similar to Axle's and I like his Frogger progression)

Which post was that?

Oh I see this now. Context: similar to Axle's in that they criticize people for defending them.
post 45

So post 45 you think Banana is town, but that isn't what your saying in 105.

I don't get why everyone is getting so hot and bothered over my Banana vote lol

Makes me think there's something THERE!!!

unvote ricastle
vote spiffeh

Hmmmmm.

[Shazam]

shazam, who were the scum on my wagon?

Hard to say. Ricastle, pisskop, Salamence20, Sakura Hana, and Shiro are the ones I see as more likely than the others. You can probably throw out Ricastle for being the first on there (usually scum join an unopposed wagon later). And I'd throw out Salamence because I find him unreadable at this stage. So pisskop, Sakura Hana, Shiro? I'd guess at least one of them is scum. Maybe I should check out their iso's.

[Salamence20]

You will learn soon enough why Im not giving reads.

Hint: Piegun is the best.

[Salamence20]

I'm pretty sure he said he wouldn't really be posting until tonight which gives him a few more hours of leeway. I don't understand why you're in such a rush to lynch him before he can participate in the game, and I don't like it in the slightest.

VOTE: Salamence20

See: Mafia in Japan

Go for it, examples please.

You said it yourself on how you are always scum in NY.

Cant argue that.

[BananaCucho]

Spiffeh (2) - Aeronaut, I am Innocent

Actually I want to entertain this first sorry

UNVOTE: Davsto
VOTE: Spiffy

[pisskop]

why is iai asking shazam the question I asked him?

like, wat

[Shazam]

shazam, who were the scum on my wagon?

Hard to say. Ricastle, pisskop, Salamence20, Sakura Hana, and Shiro are the ones I see as more likely than the others. You can probably throw out Ricastle for being the first on there (usually scum join an unopposed wagon later). And I'd throw out Salamence because I find him unreadable at this stage. So pisskop, Sakura Hana, Shiro? I'd guess at least one of them is scum. Maybe I should check out their iso's.

Took a look at the parts where they voted IaI. I'd throw pisskop out because he does a weird thing where he votes him when he's already voting him, and seems to be genuinely outraged about IaI claiming to know him. Sakura Hana and Shiro both were kinda like "ok, guess I'll vote this dude". One of them is probably scum. No idea which one yet though.

[AxleGreaser]

I would think if I was scum, my scummates would be nervous...or bussing, being a 5 day deadline and no counterwagon and all. So either way, who is the scum on my wagon?

but you also think.

Yeah can't believe 3 of them jumped on my wagon like that.

if you were scum couldnt your team mates have been caught flat footed.

[I Am Innocent]

why is iai asking shazam the question I asked him?

like, wat

speak english please

[I Am Innocent]

shazam, who were the scum on my wagon?

Hard to say. Ricastle, pisskop, Salamence20, Sakura Hana, and Shiro are the ones I see as more likely than the others. You can probably throw out Ricastle for being the first on there (usually scum join an unopposed wagon later). And I'd throw out Salamence because I find him unreadable at this stage. So pisskop, Sakura Hana, Shiro? I'd guess at least one of them is scum. Maybe I should check out their iso's.

Took a look at the parts where they voted IaI. I'd throw pisskop out because he does a weird thing where he votes him when he's already voting him, and seems to be genuinely outraged about IaI claiming to know him. Sakura Hana and Shiro both were kinda like "ok, guess I'll vote this dude". One of them is probably scum. No idea which one yet though.

Hint hint: it is the one who has given out almost no reads vs the one who has given out all reads...

[Shazam]

Hint hint: it is the one who has given out almost no reads vs the one who has given out all reads...

If this is what you think, put your vote where your mouth is. I don't necessarily agree with this, though. I've definitely seen scum give out all their "reads" and town active lurk.

[BananaCucho]

Hint hint: it is the one who has given out almost no reads vs the one who has given out all reads...

If this is what you think, put your vote where your mouth is. I don't necessarily agree with this, though. I've definitely seen scum give out all their "reads" and town active lurk.

But do the reads make sense and align more or less with your reads from a town mindset is the question

[I Am Innocent]

Hint hint: it is the one who has given out almost no reads vs the one who has given out all reads...

If this is what you think, put your vote where your mouth is. I don't necessarily agree with this, though. I've definitely seen scum give out all their "reads" and town active lurk.

Yeah it's possible. I had no real minuses on Sakura during the catchup, but I have notes saying I liked posts 183, 259, and 379 of his. So it is more than just his full reads that I'm basing my town read on.

[Sakura Hana]

I'm a she btw.

[I Am Innocent]

Hint hint: it is the one who has given out almost no reads vs the one who has given out all reads...

If this is what you think, put your vote where your mouth is. I don't necessarily agree with this, though. I've definitely seen scum give out all their "reads" and town active lurk.

PS - I think I caught spiffel in a lie, so that's where my vote is

[Salamence20]

I'm a she btw.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhh

[I Am Innocent]

Hint hint: it is the one who has given out almost no reads vs the one who has given out all reads...

If this is what you think, put your vote where your mouth is. I don't necessarily agree with this, though. I've definitely seen scum give out all their "reads" and town active lurk.

But do the reads make sense and align more or less with your reads from a town mindset is the question

This too.

I'm a she btw.

My apologies

[I Am Innocent]

I'm a she btw.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhh

You've quieted down a lot my friend.

Enough content for you? Or all fake in your book?

[Spiffeh]

I actually like everything about BananaCucho after I voted for him (he has a post similar to Axle's and I like his Frogger progression)

Which post was that?

Oh I see this now. Context: similar to Axle's in that they criticize people for defending them.
post 45

So post 45 you think Banana is town, but that isn't what your saying in 105.

I don't get why everyone is getting so hot and bothered over my Banana vote lol

Makes me think there's something THERE!!!

unvote ricastle
vote spiffeh

That was mostly just an assholey comment that I made in response to people hardcore attacking my vote against him. When I reread his ISO I deduced that he seemed town, starting with that post.

Usually D1 wagons with out counterwagons are townie ones.

Your wagon didn't really gain any momentum until recently so I believe this statement is being made too early. Also do you have examples of games where Day 1 wagons without a counterwagon resulted in mislynches?

This is an easy place to go into detail on why a lot of what you've said this game doesn't make sense.
1) He just now had 7 votes. How can any statement about his wagon be "too early"? Any "later" in the wagon, and he might be dead.
2) What does timing have to do with his point? His point is that he had a decent sized wagon with no real counter-wagon. Who cares when it happened?
3) Asking for examples is bad for two reasons: a) One can come up with examples for just about anything. It doesn't mean that whatever you're coming up with examples for is common. b) You ought to be able to accept something on principle. If it logically makes sense that a wagon with no counter-wagon is generally town, then that should be accepted as a fair argument with or without examples.

Hopefully this explanation helps you understand your earlier conflict with me. I don't wish to do what I just did with every post of yours that I find interesting, so I may just use the shorthand of "this doesn't make sense" or "overly emotional reaction" or some such thing as it applies.

1) I meant that the wagon has occurred too recently for people to expect there to have been a push back. Like he's only had the most lynch votes for less than 12 hours.
2) Since it happened so recently scum might not have had a chance to respond to it and start up a counter wagon, so the statement is a little premature.
3) Ok

Idk you keep making mountains out of molehills with me.

[Spiffeh]

@Banana side note: Why do you keep calling me Spiffy? I don't mind it I'm just curious.