Mini 1714: Justified Season 2 Mafia (Endgame)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

doesn't it look like her intent is to shut my attempts to drag reasoning out of her down?

Not at all. I'm pretty sure her differences in cadence (hehe) are to be blamed on her travel more than anything else.

Now now, you can't expect someone who isn't really reading the game to know that!

Let's be fair to the scumfuck.

[Quilford]

It wasn't a serious post obviously, I don't put any stock in tone or intent. I just wanted to show LLD how easy it is to actually give examples of what people's intent and tone could be!

[Shinobi]

Oh, then what is he doing?

I mean, besides trying to get you to be useless?

Also, you're right Self Meta is useless. Why don't you go check it for me?

This isn't "this is how I play as town" this is a definitional part of a term YOU used. Onst on you to prove I'm wrong.

Or you can just ignore me.

How you act determines what I see in you!

Berating me is just going to make me want to kill you more.
I refuse to check your meta to see if you can be difficult and unhelpful as town - if you're going to be difficult and unhelpful then you can just die for being difficult and unhelpful.
Quilford has spent the last few pages trying to get you to explain something and has gotten nothing in return - and he's scum for it? Or what is he scum for, really?

[Quilford]

Anyway I'm off! I'll check in later to see whether you nongs need me to claim

[Lady Lambdadelta]

It wasn't a serious post obviously, I don't put any stock in tone or intent. I just wanted to show LLD how easy it is to actually give examples of what people's intent and tone could be!

WAIT WAIT WAIT WHAT?

YOU MEAN THE POST YOU STARTED WITH "BUT SRSLY GUYS"

AND THEN TALKED ABOUT MY CADENCE CHANGE, IN A SERIOUS TONE

"WASN'T SERIOUS"?

NOPE.

NOPE LYNCH THIS FUCK.

LOL

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh, then what is he doing?

I mean, besides trying to get you to be useless?

Also, you're right Self Meta is useless. Why don't you go check it for me?

This isn't "this is how I play as town" this is a definitional part of a term YOU used. Onst on you to prove I'm wrong.

Or you can just ignore me.

How you act determines what I see in you!

Berating me is just going to make me want to kill you more.
I refuse to check your meta to see if you can be difficult and unhelpful as town - if you're going to be difficult and unhelpful then you can just die for being difficult and unhelpful.
Quilford has spent the last few pages trying to get you to explain something and has gotten nothing in return - and he's scum for it? Or what is he scum for, really?

Well I'm not being lynched today, so answer my question?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Srsly though guys.

LLD's tone went from SUPER AGGRO at the start of the game to buddying and placating back to SUPER AGGRO now, doesn't it look like she changes her tone when it's expedient to do so?
And given the timing of her vote and her renewed attack on me, doesn't it look like her intent is to shut my attempts to drag reasoning out of her down?

It wasn't a serious post obviously,

I don't put any stock in tone or intent. I just wanted to show LLD how easy it is to actually give examples of what people's intent and tone could be!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[catboi]

catboi, it looks like the reads list of someone who's only played three games on site. I honestly think it could come from either scum or town, and Yimmy doesn't have any other votes at the moment.

It doesn't look like a genuine effort whatsoever and you're putting on newbie blinders to ignore the fact there's a pretty significant inconsistency/lack of legitimate scumhunting. Being stifled is one thing, I've been stifled. But as scum I just did lists where I'd just take everyone's name and make vague assessments based on how I thought they'd seem, because people don't read these things critically. I read his other games and as town he seems to actually legitimately try and I don't sense that here at all

[Lady Lambdadelta]

oh, hmm, that might not be the same post they're referring to. I thought he was still talking to Chamber.

Never mind, lol.

[catboi]

Srsly though guys.

LLD's tone went from SUPER AGGRO at the start of the game to buddying and placating back to SUPER AGGRO now, doesn't it look like she changes her tone when it's expedient to do so?
And given the timing of her vote and her renewed attack on me, doesn't it look like her intent is to shut my attempts to drag reasoning out of her down?

It wasn't a serious post obviously,

I don't put any stock in tone or intent. I just wanted to show LLD how easy it is to actually give examples of what people's intent and tone could be!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're forcing this, FYI

[Shinobi]

Oh, then what is he doing?

I mean, besides trying to get you to be useless?

Also, you're right Self Meta is useless. Why don't you go check it for me?

This isn't "this is how I play as town" this is a definitional part of a term YOU used. Onst on you to prove I'm wrong.

Or you can just ignore me.

How you act determines what I see in you!

Berating me is just going to make me want to kill you more.
I refuse to check your meta to see if you can be difficult and unhelpful as town - if you're going to be difficult and unhelpful then you can just die for being difficult and unhelpful.
Quilford has spent the last few pages trying to get you to explain something and has gotten nothing in return - and he's scum for it? Or what is he scum for, really?

Well I'm not being lynched today, so answer my question?

I thought I answered it in that post.
Clarify what I missed?

Pedit - yeah I agree with CB.

[I_Am_Not_Varsoon]

@cat shit. Yeah. You are right actually.

Liking Quilford's logic and reading shinobi town are going to be pretty close to mutually exclusive at that point in the game. I think I misunderstood you earlier. Too many posts and too much hate clouded my vision.

Vote:Yimmy

It is possible that one read is made on logic and another made on emotion but, shit. It is hard to hold those opinions at once. Hey. Like: read 727 FOR REAL.

@Quil: if yimmy has only played 3 games on site then isn't it odd to form reads based on how you behaved in a small number of past games? I admit, it could just be dumb, but like you said earlier: poor play is a scum tell.

Also, I will reiterate that he is a player that only produces content when pushed. I liked the reasoning of a lot of that reads list, but Catboi is right. There is a real flaw there and I am not sure if I like any post by Yimmy, now.


Fuuuuuuck LLD and her dodges, but I think Cat may have an actual scum slip here.
Hey LLD. What do you think of Yimmy?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh, then what is he doing?

I mean, besides trying to get you to be useless?

Also, you're right Self Meta is useless. Why don't you go check it for me?

This isn't "this is how I play as town" this is a definitional part of a term YOU used. Onst on you to prove I'm wrong.

Or you can just ignore me.

How you act determines what I see in you!

Berating me is just going to make me want to kill you more.
I refuse to check your meta to see if you can be difficult and unhelpful as town - if you're going to be difficult and unhelpful then you can just die for being difficult and unhelpful.
Quilford has spent the last few pages trying to get you to explain something and has gotten nothing in return - and he's scum for it? Or what is he scum for, really?

Well I'm not being lynched today, so answer my question?

I thought I answered it in that post.
Clarify what I missed?

Pedit - yeah I agree with CB.

If he isn't being difficult and trying to answer your questions for me and derail me, then what IS he doing?

[catboi]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Yimmy

I'm going to try to make this happen I guess

[chamber]

oh, hmm, that might not be the same post they're referring to. I thought he was still talking to Chamber.

Never mind, lol.

Srsly though guys.

LLD's tone went from SUPER AGGRO at the start of the game to buddying and placating back to SUPER AGGRO now, doesn't it look like she changes her tone when it's expedient to do so?
And given the timing of her vote and her renewed attack on me, doesn't it look like her intent is to shut my attempts to drag reasoning out of her down?

It wasn't a serious post obviously,

I don't put any stock in tone or intent. I just wanted to show LLD how easy it is to actually give examples of what people's intent and tone could be!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're forcing this, FYI

I don't see the post it's supposed to be referring to if not that one//It doesn't seem that forced to me, his response seems really weird.

[Shinobi]

Oh, then what is he doing?

I mean, besides trying to get you to be useless?

Also, you're right Self Meta is useless. Why don't you go check it for me?

This isn't "this is how I play as town" this is a definitional part of a term YOU used. Onst on you to prove I'm wrong.

Or you can just ignore me.

How you act determines what I see in you!

Berating me is just going to make me want to kill you more.
I refuse to check your meta to see if you can be difficult and unhelpful as town - if you're going to be difficult and unhelpful then you can just die for being difficult and unhelpful.
Quilford has spent the last few pages trying to get you to explain something and has gotten nothing in return - and he's scum for it? Or what is he scum for, really?

Well I'm not being lynched today, so answer my question?

I thought I answered it in that post.
Clarify what I missed?

Pedit - yeah I agree with CB.

If he isn't being difficult and trying to answer your questions for me and derail me, then what IS he doing?

iirc he's trying to get you to explain stuff.
He IS right in the fact that your read flipped for poor/nonexistent reasoning and is rightfully calling you out for it, imo.
I fail to see how the last few pages make him scum.

[catboi]

I don't see the post it's supposed to be referring to if not that one//It doesn't seem that forced to me, his response seems really weird.

Given context he was pretty clearly being sarcastic, if you scroll up from the first quoted post

[popsofctown]

I literally don't understand a single bit of this Quilford wagon and it reeks of awfulness.

I think quilford in a vacuum would be a solid vote here. But Pops exists. Pops is also on his wagon for something that sounds nothing like what I'd use the word cadence for.

Give me a quick rundown on Pops?

I mean, beyond the one post you quoted.

And that one post is pretty bad. I know he was joking in tone, but when everyone else took !varsoon's defensiveness to be a scumtell, he took it to be a survivor tell.

I commonly think of a scummy desire not to get lynched as "survivor tell", since it is a tell that is shared by scum aligned players and survivors. I think I've used the term in opens before.

[Quilford]

chamber buddy, given that I've spent like 90% of my time in this game complaining about tone and intent, obviously I was using them satirically. Jesus.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh, then what is he doing?

I mean, besides trying to get you to be useless?

Also, you're right Self Meta is useless. Why don't you go check it for me?

This isn't "this is how I play as town" this is a definitional part of a term YOU used. Onst on you to prove I'm wrong.

Or you can just ignore me.

How you act determines what I see in you!

Berating me is just going to make me want to kill you more.
I refuse to check your meta to see if you can be difficult and unhelpful as town - if you're going to be difficult and unhelpful then you can just die for being difficult and unhelpful.
Quilford has spent the last few pages trying to get you to explain something and has gotten nothing in return - and he's scum for it? Or what is he scum for, really?

Well I'm not being lynched today, so answer my question?

I thought I answered it in that post.
Clarify what I missed?

Pedit - yeah I agree with CB.

If he isn't being difficult and trying to answer your questions for me and derail me, then what IS he doing?

iirc he's trying to get you to explain stuff.
He IS right in the fact that your read flipped for poor/nonexistent reasoning and is rightfully calling you out for it, imo.
I fail to see how the last few pages make him scum.

Are you reading?

I've been pretty explict with what I think of Quilford's posting.

[Quilford]

Don't make me phonepost. I don't wanna phonepost. Although I do wanna respond to catboi

[catboi]

You don't need to because I don't feel like I need to hear it RN

[Shinobi]

@LLD - no, I don't particularly think you have.
You point out little bits and pieces of what you don't like, sure, but there's no overarching idea of how/why Quilford is scum in what you've said.
If I've missed something, feel free to point it out to me and explain but I don't really see quilford!scum here.

[Quilford]

You don't need to because I don't feel like I need to hear it RN

I'm not responding to you for your benefit, I'm responding to you so I can get down what I think in words, otherwise I won't be able to get it straight in my own head

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@LLD - no, I don't particularly think you have.
You point out little bits and pieces of what you don't like, sure, but there's no overarching idea of how/why Quilford is scum in what you've said.
If I've missed something, feel free to point it out to me and explain but I don't really see quilford!scum here.

So what you're saying is I don't have a giant post or "case" explaining everything I think in one place?

Is that what you're saying?