Open 609: Pick Your Poison (Game Over)

[MarioManiac4]

I'm leaning Alchemist for the S, but it may well be you.

Oook eh exactly what are you scumreading on Panth cause that is some odd accusations. You are calling scum m top town read here.

I'm saying I see Luna as more town them him and I believe LunavPPvAlchemist is TvTvS

[Prolapsed Brain]

Votecount 1.19

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L-1 Silverjaws - 6 - Firebringer, Shiro, ika, MarioManiac4, Alchemist21, Vedith
MarioManiac4 - 3 - Bellaphant, Performer, MaxwellPuckett
Diego1487 - 1 - Silverjaws
Alchemist21 - 1 - PantherPunt
Firebringer - 1 - Luna Fox

Not Voting: Diego1487

Deadline: (expired on 2015-09-19 23:45:33)

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

[Firebringer]

2 days.
Luna get in here and hammer.

[Firebringer]

871
Stop being adorable Shiro, it makes me hard to keep my scum read on you with you being like that.

[Luna Fox]

I want to know who else is fine with me hammering without a claim, i don't have a problem doing it atm, but i don't want to deprive you guys of possible info just because i took over my own instincts.

[Vedith]

You won't get a claim, let alone a response...

[Alchemist21]

I'd be ok with a hammer.

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: silverjaws

[MarioManiac4]

to mess up vca

[Firebringer]

VOTE: silverjaws

I CAN BEAT YOU
VOTE: SilverJaws

[PantherPunt]

I'm, like, sort of around?
I didn't mean I won't catch up, I mean I won't read the tvtvs (IMO) that transpired over a few pages and changed pretty much naught.
I'm leaning Alchemist for the S, but it may well be you.

That is interesting.
I'm curious why you had an issue with me "spamming" the thread when all I'd posted is game content, but you haven't voiced any issue with people spamming the thread with pictures etc.
And I still don't like your AtE when you asserted that I was "mocking" you before. You actually said something like "How is that AtE Mr. Reasons?" and then I responded, and then you ducked and covered and didn't address it. Or did I miss that?

It's also weird that you were at 4 votes at one point (since down to 3 since Alch moved off of you) and you've basically gone dormant from scumhunting (have you ever, though?) in hopes of a SilverJaws hammer. Also weird that people had a problem with SilverJaws disapperance but no issue with your lack of scumhunting. As I look at your ISO, it's been pretty much defense. No scumhunting (just accusations of scumminess).

You said this before:

Interesting to note, Sparrow/Mario keep avoiding mentioning anything related to why they wouldn't prefer to lynch TTH over Silver, despite being asked multiple times by panther.

There are more scummy players.

So who are they

AND WHY

? Possibly me or Alch based upon 873 (but I had to pry that from you). Help give me an idea of why you find the players who you're calling scum scummy.

[Performer]

I want to know who else is fine with me hammering without a claim, i don't have a problem doing it atm, but i don't want to deprive you guys of possible info just because i took over my own instincts.

I'm not fine with a hammer yet!

Can we consider the below proposal from Alch:
@Alch – deadline extension proposal, of his post 867. I believe that would be fair to allow the replacement to do some sort of catch-up and give input
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840 – ah, so you two spoke last night. I see.
Can you speak with her tonight to see if she’s better? And if she can give a reads list?

[ika]

UNVOTE:

trolllolololol

i want hammer luna vote

[Luna Fox]

UNVOTE:

trolllolololol

i want hammer luna vote

This means that me voting would just mean you'll hammer so is the same in the end.
I'll still wait for ppl to comment, as you can see already Performer is not ok with a hammer yet.

[Firebringer]

I don't think you understand Luna.

Ika loves to hammer,

and by love. I mean has a huge hard on for it.

It is one of his interesting quirks.

[Vedith]

@Performer - What do you expect to get out of an extension? (Serious question) Do you have a case to put forward?

[Bellaphant]

It is common knowledge around here that you should have about as many scumreads as there are scum. There's a little wiggle room for that earlier in the game, but Town should be actively trying tomresolve the issue of having too many scumreads.

I'm pretty sure he's an alt and not from offsite because he's replacing into a developed game for his first game instead of joining a new one in the queue. If whoever it is has been around long enough to decide to make an alt I would expect them to be aware of matching their number of reads as good technique.

I really, really dislike this, but I'm trying to tell myself it's tone, not content. FB echoed this later - maybe it's because I like to find town, and then sort everyone else.

I also disagree with your statement that we had posted next to nothing, as TTH and myself had posted quite a bit by the time you came in.

Next to nothing was a relative term there. Sorry I didn't detail that. Next to nothing from the standpoint of her assertion that you/her were "experienced-looking" or "town leader." Just an asinine assertion on her part and her inability to elaborate on it is pretty cut and dry.

And actually ya SilverJaws must be an alt to come into a non-newbie game I guess. Doubt he will say his main, though. Or would have played on that.

You don't have to play a newbie game, though. Also, this is town-posting, so hard.

Considering I haven't done anything for the last 2 days... Makes me wonder too.

This is actually town posting too, scum would be really ballsy to draw attention to themselves like this.

i already had my poe block it its hastn changed

Am I in it, yet? Also, you read Twilight, really?

I don't think you understand Luna.

Ika loves to hammer,

and by love. I mean has a huge hard on for it.

It is one of his interesting quirks.

This is entirely true.

However, this isn't my preferred lynch - mario, alch, tth, but the slot is kinda lynch bait rn.

[Bellaphant]

EBWOP - TTH's replacement, Diego

Also, I've been asked for readslists:


Town:

Panther, Luna Fox, Veid

Maaaybe town

Fire, silver, performer

Idek

Shiro, max, ika

Scum

Deigo, Alch, Mario

@Performer, you've got me in your scummy pile - I had a rough start to the game but your read is incorrect. Talk to me?

[Performer]

@Shiro – 810 – I did a more intricate reassessment on Silver ISO, he doesn’t look super town anymore to me. But he doesn’t look very scummy either. There isn’t enough for me to go by.

His 521 looks ok.
The initial ISO read of his 523, it sounded like he had a point but then I combed through ika’s ISO regarding adding people to his town block. Others’ interactions with ika regarding the town block, paint the picture that it truly is ika’s playstyle rather than something suspicious. So this brings my read of Silv from townie to null. Also, his reaction to Bell doesn’t give me enough, as he only says scum use “interesting” as filler – I’m curious to Bell’s incentive for stating Luna’s entrance as interesting. Me thinking out loud, simplifying his closing remarks - alch, ika, fire, pant, luna, max are town; he’s null on me; thinks tth/bell/mario are scum, stated he’d happily vote Mario.
His 666 post didn’t have who stated “too many scumreads.” Anyone see who stated it??

I also did an ISO on ika.

ika – his town block method was new to me, didn't realize that's his playstyle. I thought he was scummy because it was different to me than the classic extensive analyses. After seeing Silv back it up, and Fire back it up in 889, it appears to really be his playstyle. Bumping him to my null read.
Now that I have a better understanding of him, his town block has been concise and easy to understand so far. He's careful to add people to his town block, preferring they provide good incentive for him to add them. His town block (reads list) from what I could understand during my ISO of him, have these as townies: alch, diego, shiro, luna


@moderator - since the deadline is so soon, can we have a deadline extension? Maybe we can get something more from his replacement

[Performer]

@Performer - What do you expect to get out of an extension? (Serious question) Do you have a case to put forward?

After my second ISO of Silv , he just isn't ringing Xmas bells to me, as high town anymore. I put him in the null pile . At the same time, his small number of posts doesn't paint a filtered-enough cup of water for me. But my case is we pester mod for extension, one that includes time for the replacement to catch up and provide analysis.

EBWOP - TTH's replacement, Diego

Also, I've been asked for readslists:


Town:

Panther, Luna Fox, Veid

Maaaybe town

Fire, silver, performer

Idek

Shiro, max, ika

Scum

Deigo, Alch, Mario

@Performer, you've got me in your scummy pile - I had a rough start to the game but your read is incorrect. Talk to me?

Hi Bell. I'm curious of Alch being in the scum pile. Your plea of innocence seems sincere.
I will do a 2nd (more thorough ISO) of you, to see if I missed something, and to see if something changes my mind to place you into another sublist of my reads list.

[Firebringer]

We just need a hammer!

[Vedith]

Your plea of innocence seems sincere.

It was 1 sentence saying that your read is wrong.
You are easily persuaded.

[Performer]

Your plea of innocence seems sincere.

It was 1 sentence saying that your read is wrong.
You are easily persuaded.

My playstyle is simple and straightforward this game. Maybe that means I am easily persuaded in this game.
But I am also open to suggestions and seeing as my initial reads list upon replacing in, was general, I think it's worth it if I re-look Bell through her ISO .
In the end, if I don't have support for the extension proposal to the mod, and if we hammer Silv, that's fine. But I'd prefer if we get an extension.

I had a finished game where my extensive pleas weren't heard and I was taken to the noose. I was a pr too. So I think my second-look at Bell, may help. We all make mistakes.

[Diego1487]

VOTE: SilverJaws

I really will catch up over the weekend. But for now, I can at least be helpful with my vote.

[Luna Fox]

Now im hoping that the stuff about ika's hammer is false.