NY 189 - Flower Viewing Festival [~fin~]

[Sakura Hana]

The things Shazam's been accusing me of, have been there for a while, i don't see why he'd put up a case right now and not before (i.e. yesterday)

[AxleGreaser]

Indeed.
Ugh, i need to reread all i've missed but everytime i try i get lazy :<

and when iw as thinking about stuff like that overnight, that is the sort of thing
that made me want to agree with one thing Fro99er said was right.

Town don't deserve to win this.

[pieguyn]

votecount 6.2

Shazam (2) - Fro99er, Davsto

Davsto (1) - ika

Not voting (5) - Sakura Hana, AxleGreaser, Spiffeh, Echo Echo, Shazam

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Deadline is September 25, 13:30 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2015-09-25 13:30:00).

[AxleGreaser]

shazam, who were the scum on my wagon?

Hard to say. Ricastle, pisskop, Salamence20, Sakura Hana, and Shiro are the ones I see as more likely than the others. You can probably throw out Ricastle for being the first on there (usually scum join an unopposed wagon later). And I'd throw out Salamence because I find him unreadable at this stage. So pisskop, Sakura Hana, Shiro? I'd guess at least one of them is scum. Maybe I should check out their iso's.

4 out of these 5 have literally flipped Town. I find this unnerving.

That is one hell of a misrep.
The (The Wagon) was chosen by a flipped towny. IaI
The 5 will have been chosen by eliminating the towniest or position or something like that.

Of those Shazam picked 3.
I have explained before why the assumption there must be scum on that wagon is faulty. That assumption was made by IaI.

[AxleGreaser]

Also @Thread

Ok are we done lynching anyone other than the people I want lynched most?

[AxleGreaser]

Indeed.
Ugh, i need to reread all i've missed but everytime i try i get lazy :<

and when iw as thinking about stuff like that overnight, that is the sort of thing
that made me want to agree with one thing Fro99er said was right.

Town don't deserve to win this.

but full and frank admission I am not sure I care about the outcome as much as i feel I should

[Fro99er]

MarioManiac4

(10) - Davsto,

Slandaar

,

Shiro

,

Sakura Hana

,

BananaCucho

, Shazam,

Salamence20

,

Ricastle

, Spiffeh,

pisskop

We need to lynch in here...more VCA later after I walk the dog.

[Spiffeh]

Ok I think the remaining mafia are two of Dav, Shazam, and Echo, with the severe off chance of it being Axle.

Everyone else seems town to me.

[AxleGreaser]

Everyone else seems town to me.

Id like to know how you get Fro99er town so hard.

[Spiffeh]

Ever since Fro99er's Day 1 post vomit I have been fairly certain he was town.

[AxleGreaser]

Ever since Fro99er's Day 1 post vomit I have been fairly certain he was town.

Thats fine now I know when I want to know why and how.

[Shazam]

Also @Thread

Ok are we done lynching anyone other than the people I want lynched most?

I don't want to lynch those people. I think Davsto and Fro99er are town, though Davsto less so than Fro99er at this point, because of his really bad case on me. I'm trying to decide between Echo, ika, and you.

[AxleGreaser]

EBWOP. punctuation and stuff.

Ever since Fro99er's Day 1 post vomit I have been fairly certain he was town.

Thats fine now I know when. What really I wanted to know why and how.

AKA be specific.

Remember you are town and you want to convince me i am wrong.

Also you have just stated you suspect me. So this is also your chance sort me out by seeing how genuine my scum read on Fro99er is.
Also if your town and i am town(and I am) then you really want me to get my head out of my arse and see Fro99er is town too.
...

[AxleGreaser]

Also @Thread

Ok are we done lynching anyone other than the people I want lynched most?

I don't want to lynch those people. I think Davsto and Fro99er are town, though Davsto less so than Fro99er at this point, because of his really bad case on me. I'm trying to decide between Echo, ika, and you.

So you can be specific as well.

What changed.

Just make sure to lynch Fro99er tomorrow.

You're right, Sakura's not scum with this scumbag.

[AxleGreaser]

Okay.

I kinda want to vote all three of Fro99er, Bearbert and Shazam, but sadly that isn't an option.

Shazam... meh, unsure as of yet, actually.
Fro99er has his self-voting antics as well as various flailings.
But Bearbert is the successor to pisskop, whose play I disliked for pretty obvious reasons, and Bearbert's play has been very questionable sooooo

You can explain what changed as well.

Also, I'm pretty sure Fro99er is town, so I feel my worry yesterday that Me v Fro99er v Bearbert was TvTvT and that scum was just letting it sail past seems about right.

[Shazam]

Also @Thread

Ok are we done lynching anyone other than the people I want lynched most?

I don't want to lynch those people. I think Davsto and Fro99er are town, though Davsto less so than Fro99er at this point, because of his really bad case on me. I'm trying to decide between Echo, ika, and you.

So you can be specific as well.

What changed.

Just make sure to lynch Fro99er tomorrow.

You're right, Sakura's not scum with this scumbag.

I've already explained this. The flip association for me was Bearbert scum => Fro99er scum, Bearbert town => Fro99er town. I forgot this reasoning embarrassingly enough, partially from distraction, partially from having a hard time thinking of Bearbert as town, but anyway, it's been explained. The interactions there don't make sense for Fro99er scum, Bearbert town.

[ika]

Yawn can we just lynch and talk later I bet I'll be nk

[AxleGreaser]

I've already explained this. The flip association for me was Bearbert scum => Fro99er scum, Bearbert town => Fro99er town. I forgot this reasoning embarrassingly enough, partially from distraction, partially from having a hard time thinking of Bearbert as town, but anyway, it's been explained. The interactions there don't make sense for Fro99er scum, Bearbert town.

ealier 431 492 1970 2210 2313 2379 2490 2761 2799

ALL of those contain reason that you scum read Frogger that had nothing to do with any association with Piss/bear.

What happened to those reasons?

[Shazam]

I've already explained this. The flip association for me was Bearbert scum => Fro99er scum, Bearbert town => Fro99er town. I forgot this reasoning embarrassingly enough, partially from distraction, partially from having a hard time thinking of Bearbert as town, but anyway, it's been explained. The interactions there don't make sense for Fro99er scum, Bearbert town.

ealier 431 492 1970 2210 2313 2379 2490 2761 2799

ALL of those contain reason that you scum read Frogger that had nothing to do with any association with Piss/bear.

What happened to those reasons?

Nothing happened to them. The flip association is more important to me than those things. It's more concrete, because it's based on a series of interactions and actual information of Bearbert's alignment.

[AxleGreaser]

The flip association is more important to me than those things. It's more concrete,

The flip association is ALSO just your judgement of what scum would and would not do.

So go again and explain why Fro99er cant be scum because bear is town.

[AxleGreaser]

For some reason, all it took was a couple people saying "if Bearbert flips town, Shazam is scum" for people to turn against me without a thought, despite the fact that I pushed two scum wagons.

This appears to be little revisionist, maybe it only happened in your head?
About tn, In the thread I find

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previous good point by someone else elided

>
This is actually a good point.

VOTE: tn5421

This post really stuck out to me, so I edited it to leave the parts I consider relevant. Look at how bad his case on tn is. "I don't like this post" is the best he can do here.

So yeah you are on the tn wagon, but it does not look a lot like rowing the boat that way.

About Fire.
On Fire you get closer with 2101 2210 2490 2599 but as you kept not actually mentioning him as the first person in your list he didn't actually look like even a high priority. So I don't really quite see pushed there either.

[Fro99er]

Fires Read List [Trade Mark]
Pisskop-Scum, his lack of most content, his buddying of sala. Not to mention he contributes little to none to discussion, his argument on Aeronaut is hilarious when you look at what he has contributed. Its almost all fluff, Flubbernugget was fluff posting almost. Look at Pisskop though, how is he town?

Spiffeh-Scum, where do I start? Okay, looks to jump on almost every fricking wagon, he jumps on almost anyone I am personally town reading, this guy derails all train. Then comes next few days he wants town cred for his actions? What?

Shiro-Scum, sheeps everything. Offers little to no contributions to the game. Everything else is fluff and is actually worse than Pisskop.

Town:
Salamence-Pretty much confirmed.
Axxle-I agree with everything he has said, liked his intro, definitely town player.
Sakura-Contributes quite a bit, I like what I am seeing from her.
Shazam-Definitely town. I agreed again with most what this guy was saying, his intro seemed try hard, but I think that’s just his style.

Null-
Davsto-He is eh
Fro99er-I was sure he was scum in early stages, less sure now.
Ricastle-Not much to go on.
Ika-Ehhh


VOTE: Pisskop

Why isn't echo in this read list????????

[Echo Echo]

VOTE: Shazam

[Echo Echo]

I'll redo another VCA later.

Mod, Limited Access until 1 October. I'll still be here but activity will be spotty.

[Fro99er]

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