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Post Post #950 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:30 am

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In post 949, Tails wrote:Look:
Xtoxm is survivor. Not scum.
Nana is a mechanic.
I'm conf. town.
You, Alive, Ika, Smiffle, and Firebringer are super duper town.
Lion and Davsto are town, too, but less so.
That leaves Wanderer, Asp, and Genda. Genda will be confirmed one way or the other. That just leaves Wanderer and Asp, and Wanderer has scummy content.


I might have bought that if it wasn't for you saying you are confirmed Town.
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Post Post #951 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:31 am

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If you want to push this, you will lose.
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Post Post #952 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:33 am

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Another like 15 pages? Okay, here goes nothing...
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Post Post #953 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:09 am

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VOTE: Wanderer-nl
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"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #954 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:14 am

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In post 951, Tails wrote:If you want to push this, you will lose.


Christ. How are you confirmed Town?
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Post Post #955 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:08 pm

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Wanderer, are you voting Xt because it's a policy lynch?
You scumread Lickety earlier, correct? Why did you never follow up with a vote on him?
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Post Post #956 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:12 pm

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I'm conflicted on Xtom. On one-hand, I think leaving him alive for a later default-lynch is a fine option, but on the other hand I approve of lynching him right now to just remove the potential obstacle entirely. I'm also up for a scum lynch instead of a third party lynch. Leaving Xt alone for now is fine with me only if I think we have a good shot of hitting scum with our lynch. Instead of defaulting to him now, default to him later. The results from that lynch will probably be more telling than everyone ganging up on him today due to the field of players being narrowed.
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Post Post #957 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:16 pm

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Tails, why are all of your scumreads people who have lurked or been generally quiet in comparison to the rest of the thread?
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Post Post #958 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:16 pm

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Okay, so with Xtoxm.

He's claimed survivor. Quite simply, we'll have to lynch him sometime.

It doesn't matter when we lynch Xtoxm, we'll always have the same info, and that is he is survivor.
If we lynch Xtoxm, say, tomorrow, we have less info for today's lynch, reducing the chances of it hitting scum.
If we lynch Xtoxm today, we'll have more info for our first time we attempt to lynch scum.

Got it?
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Post Post #959 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:25 pm

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@Everyone,

I think we need to lynch Xt today.

the longer we wait to lynch him the more problematic it gets for us. Right now we have no confirmed Scum... that should really be the only thing keeping us from lynching Xt. We already have one player we have to wait and see on which is Genda. I would really rather keep that kind of thing to a minimum if you get what I'm saying. When we start to get like 3 players that we are waiting on "finding out" stuff it gets really problematic real fast.
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Post Post #960 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:27 pm

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In post 957, smiffle wrote:Tails, why are all of your scumreads people who have lurked or been generally quiet in comparison to the rest of the thread?


Did you even read my post? I was quite clear on where my head's at.
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Post Post #961 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:29 pm

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In post 958, Davsto wrote:
He's claimed survivor. Quite simply, we'll have to lynch him sometime.


No we don't.

In post 958, Davsto wrote:
If we lynch Xtoxm, say, tomorrow, we have less info for today's lynch, reducing the chances of it hitting scum.


I see you're going with the appeal to fear.

In post 958, Davsto wrote:
If we lynch Xtoxm today, we'll have more info for our first time we attempt to lynch scum.


No. We'll just have more dead townies and WIFOM.
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Post Post #962 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:29 pm

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In post 959, LicketyQuickety wrote:Right now we have no confirmed Scum...


And that's going to change on future days?
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Post Post #963 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:31 pm

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In post 962, Tails wrote:
In post 959, LicketyQuickety wrote:Right now we have no confirmed Scum...


And that's going to change on future days?


Why would you rather risk lynching a Townie than a neutral role? That makes literally no sense.
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Post Post #964 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:33 pm

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But what will we have learned from Xt's lynch if we lynch him today?
Could the town use his vote to help with lynchs?
His lynch does seem like an easy one for scum to default to, but it'll probably always be that way as long as he's in the game...
I still want some time to think about this, but I see Dav and Licks' points.
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Post Post #965 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:37 pm

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In post 964, smiffle wrote:But what will we have learned from Xt's lynch if we lynch him today?
Could the town use his vote to help with lynchs?
His lynch does seem like an easy one for scum to default to, but it'll probably always be that way as long as he's in the game...
I still want some time to think about this, but I see Dav and Licks' points.


I have an ability that triggers when I hammer.... so if anything we get that out of lynching Xt. If we lynch someone else, there's really no telling who it would be at this point. with so much up in the air, it only makes sense to go for the much safer option of lynching a known neutral. AND there will likely be a tone of info given during the night so there is that too.
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Post Post #966 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:39 pm

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Let me spell this out for you, because no one seems to get it. We have 13 player slots. 2 of them are of no consequence. 1 of those 2 wins as long as they're alive. If you're town and counting on a Lylo situation, you're playing wrong. If the goal is to lynch scum, lynching the survivor is only slightly more optimal than a no lynch and should be avoided unless there is no other option. Most people tend to root for town. The best option is to allow the survivor a chance to share the win and leave them to the vig to decide if further action is necessary. I'm willing to gamble on lynching scum before a kingmaker situation comes into play. Out of the 11 left, I can tell you that 5 have made their town alignment extremely apparent. That leaves 6, of which I have a strong townread on 1 of them, weaker townreads on 2, a scumread on 1, and nothing much on the last 2. Of the last 2, I plan on sorting the miller claim fully within the next couple of days. If you just want to go strictly on the odds, and not on just my reads, we have 6 slots to find scum in. This isn't that hard.
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Post Post #967 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:41 pm

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And I have refrained for saying this for too long...

My day Vig was so GOAT. I have never made a play like that before and I am very proud of myself.
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Post Post #968 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:44 pm

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Good job, Lickety.

Tails has convinced me.
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Post Post #969 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:46 pm

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OK so we are lynching W-nl then?
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Post Post #970 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:48 pm

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Unless you have a better case on {Asp, Lion, Davesto}. And I really doubt I'm going to be going for either of the last 2.
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Post Post #971 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:52 pm

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I Iso'd wanderer considering they're the current hot-topic of today's lynch.

In post 821, Wanderer-nl wrote:
In post 795, Xtoxm wrote:i am a neutral survivor. ive approached the game in a town way and have every intention of continuing to do so.

lynch me if you want

/shrug

my ability is real and still means something, presumably.

bastard game yeah but. making someone a survivor and then telling someone else they are not town. what is the point. at least give me a safeclaim if ur gonna do that shit :roll:

In post 796, Xtoxm wrote:just lynch me tbh

This AtE really makes me want to lynch you. Also because we're already at 30+ pages I really don't feel like looking for *actual scum* over a claimed survivor who is a PL anyway.

I find this post funny only because she's commenting on apathy with apathy of her own. Also, she hasn't done much scum hunting aside from shooting some questions at both Lickety and GL earlier toDay, and maybe some kind of interactions with Xt earlier.

In post 919, Wanderer-nl wrote:Can we just freaking lynch now?

Chill wanderer, there's still some time left.

Overall, her Iso was dotted with some instances of scumhunting, but they never really went anywhere as far as a vote. She recently latched onto the Xt claim apparently due to it being a PL, and that's been their first vote the entire game. There isn't much of anything in her Iso, other than her claiming she's stoned, so I'm perfectly fine with this lynch.

VOTE: Vote: Wanderer-nl
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Post Post #972 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:52 pm

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Lion is a pretty clear Town read of mine. Dave is like confirmed if my suspicions on something are correct.

I currently have Ika, ASP and you tail as ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Genda is a scum read as well as W-nl and Genda is going to sort itself out so we are lynching W-nl.
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Post Post #973 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:55 pm

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I can tell you that Ika and MS have both been within their town meta.
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Post Post #974 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:01 pm

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In post 973, Tails wrote:I can tell you that Ika and MS have both been within their town meta.


Errr...

Sorry, but...

Oct. 4th?????
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