Blitz 3: Dead of Winter Mafia - Game Over

[Netherspite]

Official Vote Count

hiplop

(2): Klingoncelt, Ranger

Davsto

(2): Expedience, A Royal Saint

Makoto Nanaya

(1): The_Jester

Firebringer

(1): Scorpious

Ranger

(1): pisskop

Expedience

(1): Firebringer

Not Voting

(5): Makoto Nanaya, The Silver Bard, hiplop, Davsto, davesaz

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-11-11 12:43:01)

[Klingoncelt]

A Royal Saint - Town - is scumhunting and being sensible.

Davesaz - Happy Birthday! - Town - is scumhunting and being sensible.

Firebringer/(Gameplay506) - Gameplay was useless and deserved the lynch, too bad he was unlynchable. Firebringer's better, but that vote restriction is as much a pain in the ass as mine. I'm going to give him a Lean Town

Makato Nayaya - Nice altslip. Into the game and seems to be enjoying it. Reads are reasonable. Lean Town

Scorpious - Seems okay. Lean Town

Davsto - Call it gut, but I'm not getting a strong Town vibe. Null.

Ranger - Null

The Silver Bard - Lean Town

Pisskop - FAKED his post restriction. Wants to PL me. Lots of fluff in his posts. Lean Scum

The Jester - Reads are about opposite of mine. Lean Scum

Expedience - The pushes seem contrived. Says my post restriction is fake. Votes for me, tries to get others to. Scum.

Hiplop - Declares Expedience to be Town. Says my post restriction is fake. Rest of his posts are short & crappy.
Way Scum.

[Klingoncelt]

I'm calling Expedience & Hiplop as the Scumteam.

[Davsto]

People who are wondering why gameplay would let a wagon form on him when he's lynchproof seem to have forgotten that a certain mechanic exists in this game.

Expedience's meta reads are crap, considering this game I was "so engaged" in contained me making at least two "I don't have the effort, I'll get around to this later" posts. Also, I didn't have tonsillitis whilst playing that game.

Unsure if Expedience is just not the best at using meta or is purposefully meta-reading me poorly to try and get a cheap push on me.

VOTE: Expedience

[Firebringer]

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5-24-16-5-4-9-5-14-3-5

[A Royal Saint]

@All who think Expedience is scum -- Please provide a case more than "contrived" or "fake" or OMGUS.
Not really seeing how one of the most active players is scum.

I also find it interesting that a lot of people are pushing Expedience after they suggest Davsto is scum. Probably one or the other is scum.

@Davsto -- Please respond to my prior post.

@Firebringer -- Thanks! I will translate when I get to the office.

[Davsto]

@Davsto -- Please respond to my prior post.

I can try to sort them in order if you want but it won't be that informative.

Town

Expedience
The Silver Bard
A Royal Saint
pisskop
Firebringer (replaces gameplay506)
Klingoncelt
Ranger
The_Jester
Makoto Nanaya
Scorpious
hiplop
davesaz
Davsto

Scum

Makoto / Scorpious would be a nullish kind of area below which slight townreads become slight scumreads.

I actually have a lot of townreads, but I think that's good because there are only 2 scum in this setup.

That was @Firebringer --sorry I wasn't clear. I was trying to find a way to communicate with Firebringer and get a read on them through it. Nice to know where you stand though.

Going to try to sleep again.

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[A Royal Saint]

Oops, I forgot you were Double Voter. I really need to pay more attention before coming out with logic like that.

@Experience -- This here makes me begin to suspect davsto a bit. That and mainly staying away from the gameplay discussion is very suspicious even after I asked opinions. Instead they came out with what is very likely improper theory. But again I wonder what benefit would scum have to post that? And why would a scum buddy allow that? It was ridiculous. Mainly want to see Davsto react to your wall and my thoughts as well.

VOTE: Davsto

Sorry forgot I had a post between them. Should have said my prior post regarding you.

[Davsto]

Trying to dissuade people on my wagon is a waste of time. Scumhunting is a much more productive use.

[pisskop]

poor klingy. forest for the trees hun.

[pisskop]

If I didnt know you were prone to exagerating misinformation as town Kling, id probs scumread you.

[pisskop]

Dave/davsto is a good place.

[pisskop]

not sure how to feel about fire.

I can read him once he starts texting agaim, unlynchable might be true, and if the translations are right hes manually translating his speech

[A Royal Saint]

@All who think Expedience is scum -- Please provide a case more than "contrived" or "fake" or OMGUS.
Not really seeing how one of the most active players is scum.

I also find it interesting that a lot of people are pushing Expedience after they suggest Davsto is scum. Probably one or the other is scum.

@Davsto -- Please respond to my prior post.

@Firebringer -- Thanks! I will translate when I get to the office.

Then Davsto top paragraph why the suspicion of Expedience.

[Davsto]

Expedience's meta reads are crap, considering this game I was "so engaged" in contained me making at least two "I don't have the effort, I'll get around to this later" posts. Also, I didn't have tonsillitis whilst playing that game.

Unsure if Expedience is just not the best at using meta or is purposefully meta-reading me poorly to try and get a cheap push on me.

[A Royal Saint]

Again that is not a case. That is just OMGUS and disagreeing with a meta read. I want a case from someone.

[Davsto]

OMGUS is just a way of casting doubt on someone who just happens to be voting someone who voted them, and to invalidate the reasoning. If you actually read, you'll see there's an actual reason for my read (i.e., he seems to be purposefully misinterpreting my meta as an excuse to scumread me, ignoring the fact that there are different circumstances etc etc.). Your willingness to discredit it as OMGUS to attempt to cast shade on the Expedience wagon and for a reason to scumread me is worrying.

[pisskop]

Im look at my limited meta on hippie.

[A Royal Saint]

20-15-23-14
1-18-19
11-12-9-14-7
20-19-2
19-3-15-18-16
18-1-14-7-5-18
4-1-22-19-20-15
16-9-19-19-11-15-16
20-8-5 10-5-19-20-5-18
8-9-16-12-15-16
4-1-22-5-19-1-26
13-1-11-1-20-15 14-1-25-1-25-1
5-24-16-5-4-9-5-14-3-5

Translation of Firebringer's post:
TOWN
ARS
KLING
TSB
SCORP
RANGER
DAVSTO
PISSKOP
THE JESTER
HIPLOP
DAVESAZ
MAKATO NAYAYA
EXPEDIENCE

@Firebringer -- Explain your Expedience and Makoto reads please.

@Davsto -- Again...You just said your case is to disagree with this meta read. You could find which posts were inaccurate or find a statement that is false. I do not see what you are seeing so it looks like OMGUS to me so I want an explanation. The way this many people are hopping on Expedience this fast makes me think someone on it is scum. So I expect people to provide cases.

I have a meeting late tonight so I won't be on for much of the day I have to work. Will do my best.

[A Royal Saint]

@Davsto -- In fact I figure someone who genuinely believes their case would love the opportunity to "soap box" it out. I'm surprised you take rational skepticism and asking for your opinion in such a weird way.

[pisskop]

I don't know. Been wondering why Klingy is trying to incriminate people.

[pisskop]

That doesnt seem like klingy. She wants to talk usually. Shes looking to damn people here.

vote: Klingon

My meta senses are tingling.

[The Silver Bard]

So I translated the untranselated FB posts:

Fire, are you immune to just lynches or dying altogether or is it vague?

22-1-7-21-5

VAGUE

I do not buy that Gameplay is town. In the lore it specifically states that you have to spend a die of a certain value to kill a zombie. It makes a lot of sense for the zombies to have one time lynch proof or rng lynch proof to simulate this. Look at the dead of winter rules. I have to go home but nothing has changed. They are not helping out are not giving opinions and are only concerned with saving their own skin.

Note Ranger I see your post and I am phone posting about to drive home. Saying something is the opposite doesn't make it true. Will respond more when safely home.

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4-15 25-15-21 23-1-14-20 13-5 20-15 6-12-15-15-4 20-8-9-19 20-8-18-5-1-4 23-9-20-8 1 2-21-14-3-8 15-6 14-21-13-2-5-18-19 20-15 7-9-22-5 25-15-21 13-25 15-16-9-14-9-15-14 15-14 5-22-5-18-25-20-8-9-14-7

I AM TOWN
DO YOU WANT ME TO FLOOD THIS THREAD WITH A BUNCH OF NUMBERS TO GIVE YOU MY OPINION ON EVERYTHING

Link to a game where post restrictions were faked.

20-8-9-19

THIS

20-15-23-14
1-18-19
11-12-9-14-7
20-19-2
19-3-15-18-16
18-1-14-7-5-18
4-1-22-19-20-15
16-9-19-19-11-15-16
20-8-5 10-5-19-20-5-18
8-9-16-12-15-16
4-1-22-5-19-1-26
13-1-11-1-20-15 14-1-25-1-25-1
5-24-16-5-4-9-5-14-3-5

TOWN
ARS
KLING
TSB
SCORP
RANGER
DAVSTO
PISSKOP
THE JESTER
HIPLOP
DAVESAZ
MAKATO NAYAYA
EXPEDIENCE

[The Silver Bard]

Ffs ARS translated the last part all ready. What a waste of time from me. This post restriction sucks balls!

[Davsto]

Okay, Royal, let me lay this out for you. He's saying I'm not as "involved" as I was in the game I played with him. This game contained such things as:

Me voting the wrong person after mixing them up,
Several posts involving me neglecting the game,
Me fucking up postwalls,
A really bad hammer on Expedience himself...

The list could go on, but these are some of the things I did while in the game while Expedience was alive. He's just stating a meta of "oh he was more involved" without referencing the game in question, in the hope that people will just go along with it, whereas those things above aren't particularly involved, in my opinion.

(also, there's the fact that I currently have tonsillitis which naturally makes me play worse but it's not his fault he doesn't know)

It's not just a bad case, it's a case that is a flat out lie and Expedience should know this. That's why I'm voting Expedience.

Now, are you going to continue to accuse me of OMGUS just because I'm voting someone who just happens to be voting me, or are you going to stop tunneling and consider my case on Expedience?