Blitz 18: Wedding Invitational Mafia - GAME OVER

[Ms Marangal]

Whayever you sau

[Ms Marangal]

I still think hes scim

[Nachomamma8]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

[Nachomamma8]

I still think hes scim

OK.

[pieguyn]

jesus I'm lost
ok

{BRO, Empire, Ceph, bork}

I am confused why BRO and Ceph are included in the top tier and I'm confused why I'm not.

BRO town read is just because I feel like when he's scum most of his posts have this seeking-approval mindset where he tries to go around and make appeals to various players in the game. I don't see that from him here at all and I think this looks p strongly like his town play as opposed to his scum play.

Ceph town read is kinda similar, he feels like he's kind of lost and I disagree with most of what he's pointing out, which ironically I find to be a town tell bc I can look at it and see it coming from the POV of lost-town who can't stay on top of the game fully.

I mostly just flipped out on you cos I would expect you to town read BRO here given you (and Tammy, and mollie. -.- christ I still cannot fucking believe that) spent all of D1 of Capcom trying to dismantle my massive case of destruction on BRO where this was a major point in the case, and I'm almost positive you've used this point in reading BRO before in some other game (don't remember exactly where).

I'm confused why Pie thinks Im scum, but thats ok.

Bork at least has a good reason for finding me suspicious.

if you really want me to, I can go through all of your posts and point out why I think the vast majority of them aren't you actually game solving, but IDK how productive that'd be in a blitz scenario where there's easily viable wagons on other ppl I think have a good chance to be scum anyway.

[pieguyn]

I don't really understand the Mala votes; I thought the push on me being scum when I was pretty widely townread was unlike what Mala typically does as scum

aaaaaaagh son of a bitch

[AngryPidgeon]

if you really want me to, I can go through all of your posts and point out why I think the vast majority of them aren't you actually game solving, but IDK how productive that'd be in a blitz scenario where there's easily viable wagons on other ppl I think have a good chance to be scum anyway.

You are right, I'll take a pass. I think we are both town so its fine.

Remind me your thoughts on GM, Bork, and Nati?

[pieguyn]

I believe, with reservations, Nacho has caught GM.

I have a fair amount of paranoia because most of what he brought up are literally some of the easiest things to attack as scum, but then I think it may just be that easy.

p-edit: see above; town (poke me if you want me to reason this out more); I have no read there and haven't tried to form one. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Cephrir]

pie gave a read list a few pages ago! i dassumed everyone called you advanced placement because of your reading comprehension abilities D:

[pieguyn]

Mara, when your sober would like if you could explain why GM is town as fuck

[pieguyn]

aaaand OK I'm legit about to pass out any second now.

be back in like 5-6 hours 4real this time

[Nachomamma8]

I mostly just flipped out on you cos I would expect you to town read BRO here given you (and Tammy, and mollie. -.- christ I still cannot fucking believe that) spent all of D1 of Capcom trying to dismantle my massive case of destruction on BRO where this was a major point in the case, and I'm almost positive you've used this point in reading BRO before in some other game (don't remember exactly where).

That is how I read BRO. I'm being fairly conservative in townreads at the moment and would like to see his posts develop further than that. Mindset tells get stronger as a body of work grows; as scum, I can fake my town posting in spurts and sometimes for days, but I can't fake it for an entire day. BRO is similar.

[Ms Marangal]

But gm is town

[Ms Marangal]

Shes kust town as ficm

Toniest town ever

[Cephrir]

no one will work with you if you make yourself impossible to work with.

[Natirasha]

My flight was moved up to this Sunday so I'm stuck doing stuff ew.

[Syryana]

Blah blah stuff happened blah

Still happy with GM being getting dead

[Empire]

I have to rush out the door after I type this because I have to go buy a birthday gift for my lovely girlfriend but I will be back in like an hour or so.

Nati, you missed my question pls answer my question

which was?

Here.

Not gonna lie, I haven't been following things as closely as you have so I haven't picked up on those nuances. Though he did in some game earlier this year? try to pull a I'm a lurker cause I'm town and I care more as scum type thing. My concern with Ceph is he knows very well what town Ceph looks like and can emulate that and change once one thing is picked up on.

That's always a danger with meta but I don't think we've played together aside from ASoIaF UPick when we were scum so I don't know if he knows specifically what I look for in him. Has this stuff been brought up to him in the past? (Somehow, I don't think he's aware of the "oily politician" tell.)

Do you still have the perfect streak of reading Nacho? I ask because I'm bad and I am still uneasy about him even after looking at the totality of his play and following the implicit thought process in his posts. >_>

I was with her in a game recently...actually she was a hydra with GM there I think. Her structuring and content level doesn't seem weird to me, I remember her not posting too much and being a bit defensive. But she seemed more engaged. I was pretty hard townreading that slot, largely because of Mala's occasional drive by catchup-quote-strip-walls

I mean, it's always possible that her ability to fully dive into the game really has been hampered by IRL (I can relate a bit because this game just kind of came out of nowhere for me and I had no idea it was going to be a Blitz), but even taking that into account, it's all still pretty underwhelming to me.

The answer to this is that if GiF were scum you wouldn't be having this conversation because you'd have forgotten that GiF is in the game.

To be honest, before his most recent series of posts, I was really heading down that road of forgetting him. The only thing is that he was really low key in the TM Large Theme so it all adds up to a big ???? for me. I probably won't have enough time to check out some recent scum games of his though because this game started at the worst possible time for me.

jesus I'm lost
ok

{BRO, Empire, Ceph, bork}

I am confused why BRO and Ceph are included in the top tier and I'm confused why I'm not.

You seem to care way too much about how people are reading you and that makes me a bit worried dude

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I still think GM and Mala are both scum although I like the GM wagon slightly more. I'd be surprised if there isn't at least one scumbag here between these two.

Mara's latest series of posts are annoying as fuck but she's probably town.

{bork, Tammy, pieguyn} are my strongest townreads which is really disappointing as I wanted to have more confidence rather than just a bunch of "I think" townreads. I think I'm suffering from invitational syndrome.

pie, what do you think of Nati? I have ~opinions~ but I want to wait and see what she says in response to my question.

[Nachomamma8]

Do you still have the perfect streak of reading Nacho? I ask because I'm bad and I am still uneasy about him even after looking at the totality of his play and following the implicit thought process in his posts. >_>

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Empire]

Oh, I forgot to mention one very important thing:

I will not be around for most of tomorrow and I cannot guarantee that I will be around to switch votes so do not assume that it will happen and plan accordingly.

[Empire]

God, I hate you so much right now.

[Nachomamma8]

You seem to care way too much about how people are reading you and that makes me a bit worried dude

Pie's approach on me in particular is something that I care about because she's one of the few last surviving Nacho Readers and we tend to mutually read each other pretty well. If she's getting weird on me, I want that process out in the open to see if she's doing a poor job of faking paranoia on me.

[Nachomamma8]

God, I hate you so much right now.

I can't remember a time in my life where I've been this happy <3

[Empire]

It's just that I associate you orienting yourself like that and trying to get into people's good graces with your scum game (well, that and the mechanical/distant tone, although that's changed a bit).

P-edit: don't be, I'm not very good at this game anymore >_>

[notscience]

There's a very pressing concern with this game.