In post 124, SilverWolf wrote:In post 122, OceanWind wrote:In post 116, Anxiety Attack wrote:Like Ocean, I don't feel like you did anything to sort my alignment before you decided I was scum with someone else. I had only made 4 posts, ika hasn't posted yet, Ranger hasn't and you are already calling scumteams. It's like you know my alignment already and don't care what it is. You just want me lynched.
And if anyone is buddying anyone in this game so far, it's you buddy MattP and maybe Wisdom. I mean you are calling them obvious town, saying they are giving off super strong towntells based on things you are assuming without asking.
Yeah, looks like your scumgame and how you treated me at the beginning of that game so I'm happy with my vote. I'll see what ika says when he gets here.
~SW
You keep saying I've "decided" that you are scum as if I've already cast a hammer vote. I think you are scum, yes. If you're town, then I expect I'll see it soon. I'm interacting with you and figuring you out now.
You did only have four posts which is why I didn't have much to say about you. You just don't feel like the town-SilverWolf I've played with in the newbie game. You don't have the fire to figure out the game. I don't see you aggressively scumhunting and trying to move the game forward. I see you mostly complaining about my and Wisdom's suspicion of you and saying that I didn't try to figure you out hard enough before "concluding" that you are scum. So what if I called the scumteam? That doesn't mean I can't change my mind and realize that you are town.
BS-The game barely started. You can't possibly have expected me to have anything figured out yet at the point you called me scum. You know what I see. I see your scumgame from newbie 1656 where you attacked me similarly right out of the gate, up to and including you talking about how you like to make waves and how you expect scum to come after you for your weak points, even though town me in that game, went after you and scum GM on both of your weak points on me.
So yeah, I feel like your scumread is BS and I'm saying so because I'm sure you know, scum have to fabricate scumreads on townies. Having said that, I'm gonna let ika catch up and see if he agrees with me and try to keep out of tunnel/confbias mode.
pedit: GM told you that in the Mafia PT of 1656 that I do that AS TOWN and you told her you were pushing me anyway so yeah, I do think you decided to do it again as scum. But thank you for acknowledging I push back hard against people who scumread me for bad reasons as town. Hell, even your reason for saying you wouldn't do that as scum is the EXACT excuse GM gave me as scum in that game.
~SW
In post 88, MattP wrote:In post 87, LucianRoy wrote:This game is giving me Anxiety.
I don't get it Matt, what's your justification on the vote?
I don't like this super rational protown way you're trying to present yourself both in your dissuading Ocean to pursue me and in you trying to get Wisdom to unvote Anxiety on page 2 of the game
In post 96, OceanWind wrote:Adding to that is the fact that I do find Lucian scummy. The way he's defending Matt in Post 69 doesn't come across as genuine. Firstly, he didn't even wait for Matt to respond before diving in, and secondly, even if he disagreed with my opinion, that isn't indicative of my alignment.
In post 47, LucianRoy wrote:In post 45, Wisdom wrote:SW I'm expecting more from you, you're being rather underwhelming so far.
Wisdom, why does this sound like a reason for you to keep your RVS vote on Anxiety?
In post 55, LucianRoy wrote:
I'm not sure, but I don't think it should be on Anxiety.
UNVOTE: Anxiety
And your socratic rhetoric is exceptional btw.
In post 69, LucianRoy wrote:Ocean, I'm not a fan of meta, but if MattP really wanted to have reads on those players, he could've whipped something up easily. Instead, he chose to play the "let's wait and see" game before jumping the gun on them. I'm doubting his caution is as bullshit as you say it is.
VOTE: Ocean
In post 134, LucianRoy wrote:I want to see more interaction between Ocean and Matt.
In post 141, MattP wrote:Killer reads yo, thanks for sharing on pg 6
In post 142, Anxiety Attack wrote:In post 141, MattP wrote:Killer reads yo, thanks for sharing on pg 6
Do you disagree with any of it and if so which ones. I knwo your gonna default disagree with yor won so talk to me about the others or tell me why interjecting all the time when sw was talking to others is in any way town
I thought it was scummy the first time it was suggested by Lucian and I thought it was scummy the second time. You're assuming by availability heuristic that I am a person who interjects trains of thought to derail meaningful conversation and that somehow has negative and intentioned implications and disregarding all the trains of conversation happening in-thread that I have In post 130, Usted wrote:I could see switching to Lucian for the interactions that he had with Lucian
In post 136, OceanWind wrote:@LucianRoy -How do you distinguish between town asking questions to figure out a player's alignment and scum asking questions to "posture for a vote?" If I was trying to "get something out of Matt," that fits with town motivation, doesn't it?
Re-reading my Post 70, I think I was unclear. I didn't say that I agreed with your vote on me. I said that I disagreed with everything you've done including your vote on me. "until this time" meant, "until the present time," not "until your vote."
In post 137, MattP wrote:Like you playing the role of a grounded mediator when you have no knowledge of my intentions or alignment, or Anxiety's intentions or alignment, when we had both posted so little at the point you defended us, looks scummy precisely because it makes you look like some sort of voice of reason in a place where we shouldn't be at the point where your voice of reasoning is legitimized. Two pages into the game you shouldn't be telling a player that their vote needs to go somewhere else, and certainly not multiple times within those first few pages.
In post 143, MattP wrote:-snip-