Alright, Ranger's entrance into the game struck me as outlandish. I really don't put too much stock into voting someone based off their RVS vote when there's already seven pages down. I'll cut her some slack for being late to the game, but... why enter a pretty advanced game and go solely off RVS; creating a convicted list of reads off what seems to be only RVS? SW's "you have got to be kidding" basically sums up my thoughts on that note. At first glance they might sound like nervous scum entering the game oddly, but the I read Matt's post:
In post 196, MattP wrote:I always have a sinking feeling when I realize someone in situations like these might not be scum and actually legitimately believes they can develop reads of every player in the game based on the first 20 RVS posts of the game
I would still like to hear more from Ranger. Specifically her thoughts on Yakko when she gets back to the game. I can't sort her atm.
Ocean going after Yakko was a bit unexpected. I had asked Ocean what his thoughts on Yakko were maybe a page or two before, but I never got a response.
He voted him for what mainly appears to be defaulting on his stance about Anxiety's past town read on pisskop. I think what might've caused this is the lack of Yakko being transparent in his thoughts on the game, which complicated things for people later on. Really, I don't want to be voting Ocean Wind any more. Their jabs seem way more town than they did last night.
UNVOTE: Ocean
Wisdom enters the game and then ensues the Yakko tunnel. Oh god.
To be fair, Wisdom is very blunt with his questions. He doesn't dance around any topic, but drives straight to the point. I like this, but you could already tell from Yakko's first couple responses it was going to be gruesome, (as he seemed to lack a direct response about his read on me).
One moment,
? Your push on ranger you later say was mainly driven by 201 on account of false premises, but I don't see it. He may not be new to the game, but he's new to mafiascum. Everytime someone joins mafiascum, and they want to play a game, sooner or later they learn the site meta and/or adapt to it. It's actually a sad reality. Also, I only played with Wisdom once when he was scum, I can't remember anything about that game because I played really poorly, but what do you see in Wisdom that's alluring to his scum meta/not town meta? You put up a bunch of meta with scum you caught, but none of those games have wisdom in them. That just drew my attention when SW went into interrogation mode after saying, "This isn't Wisdom's town game."
Back to Yakko,
I really don't like this exchange of posts:
In post 273, hi im Yakko wrote: In post 272, Anxiety Attack wrote: In post 270, hi im Yakko wrote:He comes off townier than you ika
hmmm idk. I think I would hate myself for being so wrong and either I would play better or retrench and start questioning my existence. Wisdom makes some clever points.
What points has he made? Are you saying we are having a TvT or something else cus thats what im reading what your saying it as
If it came down to the wire between you and he. I would lynch you. Am I readingnyou both as town rn? Technically yes. The points he made are mostly his responses to you. I found myself to have been nodding to them.
Yakko seems to be going a bit minimalist here. I read his post about him wanting people to read his thoughts, but really if wen played mafia that way, we might as well be telepathic. This comes off as scummy to me on Yakko's part only because he never really properly explains himself, let alone why he found Wisdom to be more townie than Ika/SW. Really, his read at that moment looks like it's complete gut, or it's made up.
In post 299, hi im Yakko wrote:
lets see I think oceans vote is bad. Not because he is voting me but because he wants townies tonmake their own argument for why I am scum. So null scum
Pisskop and usted as town
Mattp
Wisdom, anxiety attack
Ranger
Lucian
I get that you explained your read on me, but why is Usted up there as town? You haven't explained maybe half of these, or at least, I don't see your reasoning.
I'll continue reviewing Yakko's tunnel at a later time, as I have some work I need to get done tonight.
As an aside:
In post 226, Usted wrote:Scum is definitely going to play carefully around the chosen mechanic. They don't want to be viewed as the person who led a chosen train probably.
Usted, are you familiar with the term: WIFOM? It's used to describe a logical fallacy about predicting what scum will and won't do.
If you aren't familiar with it, that's fine, you can read a bit more about it here:
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=WIFOM I'm sorry I ICed in that moment, but some of your posts sound like you make some assumptions to reach a conclusion. I thought you might just like to know.
Back to the game, who are you scumreading atm Usted?
