Blitz 13 - Bad Omens (Judgment)

[Ether]

Day 2, Votecount 6

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3 Usted (Titus, pisskop, Wisdom)
3 Wisdom (hi im Yakko, Anxiety Attack, Usted)
1 Titus (OceanWind)

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.
The deadline is in (expired on 2015-12-19 01:00:00), on Saturday, December 19 at 1:00 am EST.

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[OceanWind]

I doubt Usted would have that much insight into what happens in the future. We're talking about a guy playing his first game. I think it's more likely he killed MattP

in order

to use his reads in that way.

He's still locking himself into an effective 1v1 with Titus. It's a hard argument for him to make that we should lynch Titus because Matt had Lucian + one of Usted/Titus as scum. What then? He needs two more mislynches after Titus if he is to win which it'll be hard for him to get because he has to backtrack really hard.

He could just say Titus is scum without bringing Matt's read on him into the equation.

[Wisdom]

Why is it a 1v1? He can say "oh well, it wasn't Titus" if Titus flips scum and go for someone else.

[Wisdom]

town*

[OceanWind]

He could but he's bringing a lot of attention on him by saying that it is him or Titus. When it wasn't Titus, people would naturally look at him and I don't think he'd want that attention as scum and he wouldn't deliberately put himself in the spotlight. Experienced scum might do that but not newbie scum. And yes, I do consider him a newbie based on his level of play so far.

[Wisdom]

He doesn't exactly say "it's me or Titus".

Also MattP wound up dead last night. His list was right about Lucian, its wrong about me, so maybe it was right about Titus.

He says, MattP was right about Lucian, wrong about me, maybe right about Titus. That doesn't lock him into anything. Nothing forces MattP to have both scum in this list of three. He can easily disregard all this and say "okay MattP wasn't right about the second scum".

[Anxiety Attack]

That was hammer vote. Lets see what happens

[pisskop]

no?

[Anxiety Attack]

Day 2, Votecount 5

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3 Usted (Titus, pisskop, Wisdom)
3 Wisdom (hi im Yakko, Anxiety Attack, Usted)

1 Unvote (OceanWind)

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.
The deadline is in (expired on 2015-12-19 01:00:00), on Saturday, December 19 at 1:00 am EST.

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vc from top of last page

VOTE: Titus

last post on that page. there we no unvotes?

[Usted]

That's the first vote on Titus.

[Usted]

VOTE: Titus

[Anxiety Attack]

Im too tired....

[Titus]

Even if he's scum, he's not going to lie about it.

Does not take into account that he could be town who has a very different interpretation of what "avoiding topics" means. He doesn't know how you read me in Blitz 1 so he has zero clue what

exactly

you are asking about.

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Here's why I think Titus is mafia:

1. Once she replaces into the game, she piggybacks off of Wisdom's townread on Lucian (Post 547) to attempt the drive momentum away from the wagon. She's perfectly happy voting Usted of course. Her reasoning for Usted sucks and basically amounts to "let's townblock and lynch outside of it" which isn't how town-Titus formed reads in the previous game I've played with her.

2. Her townread on me is rubbish as I've already explained.

3. The buddying of Wisdom today without really critically examining why Anxiety finds him scummy. That reminds me @SilverWolf, Titus buddying Wisdom points to Titus-scum, not Wisdom-scum.

Titus subtly avoiding the Lucian wagon and working with her "townreads" to achieve a different lynch I think is far more condemning than Wisdom's blatant attempts to derail it.

I don't like that the wagons today involve both Wisdom and Usted voting each other as self-preservation. If Titus is your preference, let's lynch her, shall we?

VOTE: Titus

1. Wrong. That's what I did in Blitz. If it wasn't for ETL, we would have smoked you.
2. You haven't. That is unless you think Wisdom is a liar and i should suppose he'd lie to get me to townread you.
3. I don't have to critically analyze non existent stupid reasons. VCA trumps it.

I was pretty blatant. And drunk. Lols.

Got no regrets.

[pisskop]

lol I smoked etl

[Usted]

I think all of us are about to get prodded.

[hi im Yakko]

Dude I'd be willing to switch to usted maybe.

[Anxiety Attack]

prod doge

I see Wisdom's still alive.

If it gets closer to deadline, I'll lynch Titus or maybe hammer Usted.

I'd roll the die but I think that's illegal?

Fuck, nobody listens to a damn thing I say. I don't know why ika says I have charisma, bleh................

Also, I've had too much wine/

Of I fdin out Titus said 723 to me as scum I'm gonna be really annoyed cuz htat's like using our frinednsip to get townread

Also, does anyone notice how Wisdom's reasoning sucks like on almost eveyr point he makes this game? Like, he's good as town so that's a red flag gfor sure ya kow?

~SW

[OceanWind]

@SilverWolf -

I'm not seeing Wisdom as mafia at all. Please re-read how the end of the day went down (the pages since Titus's replace in). Her posts are far more opportunistic than his are.

[Anxiety Attack]

I could L-1 Titus I guess. Town wins this anyway as long as wel lynchin Titus, wis, usted or some combo of htat. We also hav e 2 Alive chose than cna win ift for us by being alive.

~SW

PS-ika got your message, not ignoring you, I just got home and phone is dead as hell, it's chargnin g now

[OceanWind]

I'm not really interested in setting up lynches on three people. I'd much rather we close it out today. I explain in Post 793 why I think Wisdom is town and in Post 799 why I think Titus is mafia. I'd appreciate it if you go over it when you are sober and let me know whether you agree or think I'm wrong but I'm feeling rather confident about it.

[hi im Yakko]

VOTE: titus

[Anxiety Attack]

intent to hammer

[Anxiety Attack]

^^^^^

SW

[OceanWind]

I'm okay with it. Just hope I'm right.

Looking through some of Lucian's early play around Wisdom, I don't think his accusation that Wisdom is keeping his RVS vote on you guys is scum to scum either. It looks more like he was trying to scumpaint Wisdom.

[OceanWind]

SW I'm expecting more from you, you're being rather underwhelming so far.

Wisdom, why does this sound like a reason for you to keep your RVS vote on Anxiety?

This post specifically.