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Post Post #625 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 7:52 am

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In post 592, pisskop wrote:You dont seem your full expressive towny self.
How so? Simply because I talk less? Because I jumped off the wagon on BlackStar?

And since you frankly talk so much I expect you would be capable of 'leading' the discussion
Not necessarily leading, but yeah, I would try to manipulate the votes.
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Post Post #626 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:17 am

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Firebringer replaces BeBopARebop RhubarbPie. Please welcome him!

Replacement search was so short that the countdown won't be paused after all.
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Post Post #627 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:18 am

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hey guys, whats up!?!?!?!?!

Can anyone fill me in without me having to do reading?
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Post Post #628 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:18 am

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youre my monkey-mason buddy
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Post Post #629 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:19 am

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In post 628, pisskop wrote:youre my monkey-mason buddy

Cool, sounds like normal.

But what about everyone else Pisskop?
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Post Post #630 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:20 am

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yakko is sus, ai is a little sus, lowell took an easy vote on tojam, who looks bad too.

Look over AI and tell me your thoughts please.
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Post Post #631 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:24 am

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In post 630, pisskop wrote:yakko is sus, ai is a little sus, lowell took an easy vote on tojam, who looks bad too.

Look over AI and tell me your thoughts please.

I quickly did read through of the flips so far, and then read through of AI, I am thinking he is town.
Like he isn't as much pushing his reads in this game I don't think but I kind of think he is still town.

I don't know how to explain it, most of it is gut.
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Post Post #632 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:32 am

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In post 560, AlwaysInnocent wrote:Yeah. I didn't want to lynch a townie, so I opposed the BlackStar Lynch. I did however offer an alternative. A better alternative for sure.


This reads so bad to me. Are you saying you didn't want to lynch a townie so you didn't lynch him? In which case, how did you know he was a townie?
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Post Post #633 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:33 am

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@piss- what was your read on BeBop? you seem to be friendly with his successor so far.
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Post Post #634 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:35 am

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I like Fire. I like bebop, but hes new.
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Post Post #635 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:36 am

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Y U Jelly?
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Post Post #636 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:38 am

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Having read my own ISO, I feel like I should talk less. I sort of get why people are scumreading me. My mouth is too big. In a few posts I was advising against a Spigot lynch, which seems awfully scummy.

My basic idea was that townreading people should be more reliable than scumreading people (I still believe this). However, I became unjustifiably confident about some of my reads, as Spigot's scum flip proves. Even to the point of defending him, making it almost seem like I am his scum buddy (which I assure you I am not).

Honestly, if I didn't know what I was, I would be thinking that there was a link between us as well. But there isn't any. The truth is very simple. It was overconfidence.
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Post Post #637 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:43 am

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In post 632, Lowell wrote:
In post 560, AlwaysInnocent wrote:Yeah. I didn't want to lynch a townie, so I opposed the BlackStar Lynch. I did however offer an alternative. A better alternative for sure.


This reads so bad to me. Are you saying you didn't want to lynch a townie so you didn't lynch him? In which case, how did you know he was a townie?
I figured that this post would not be well received by some, but it is the truth.

How did I
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that he was a townie? I didn't. I just read him as such and was confident about my read.
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Post Post #638 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:57 am

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Read List D2 V1


{
AlwaysInnocent
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{
pisskop
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Anxiety Attack
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{
hi im Yakko
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Kaboose
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{
Ranger
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Lowell
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tojam2
}


As you can see, I have revised some of my reads. Reasons will follow.
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Post Post #639 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:12 am

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In post 635, pisskop wrote:Y U Jelly?

Everyone is jelly of our special relationship Pisskop, don't worry about him.
Now what you think of AI? Besides "he is susp"
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Post Post #640 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:23 am

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In post 574, hi im Yakko wrote:Oh pisskop is pr obviousky


At what point in this game did you come to this conclusion?
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Post Post #641 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:27 am

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In post 576, Anxiety Attack wrote:Yeah, stop whining about Blackstar and ISO the votes on him or I will eventually.

~SW

In post 577, Anxiety Attack wrote:I porb cant asnwer for silver 100% dave but i almost alwasy scum read lurkers as well on a gut based reason.

Epsicaly new players like this, if it was someone well knwon who had a baseline i could but how hes doign nothing is a lot like the 9:11 game where it was jsut poe and lynchign an inactive on day 2 for the win.

like if you were to go to choesn mafia where me and silver played, you will see that silver nailed wisdom on RVS based on nothing more the what is kidna jsut guts. so again, im not sivler but i trust her guts and when it pings her on anything im gonna follow it

HOLY PEDIT:

i agree with silvers reads for the most part

i kinda want to poke ranger a bit cus of setup but mastin isnt around


I'm getting the big town read on AA here because I would think if they were scum they wouldn't be posting without talking to each other a bit more and wouldn't have these posts hitting at the same time.

To the rest of you that aren't AA:
Is that a fair assumption to make?
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Post Post #642 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:33 am

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In post 599, hi im Yakko wrote:
In post 597, pisskop wrote:Dance with me. Start with your left foot WHY WOULD YOU TRY TO OUT A PR


Why not just wait as scum? If you follow the line of logic scum!yakko doing it doesnt make sense


Fair point, scum would keep that info in and just place a NK on it. Making others aware now enables protection to target more accurately, I would think.

How does it benefit scum to say it out loud?
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Post Post #643 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:34 am

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its really not.
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Post Post #644 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:35 am

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In post 635, pisskop wrote:Y U Jelly?


A little, yeah. He just waltzes in and you call him town. I've been here forever.
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Post Post #645 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:35 am

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I didnt call him town?
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Post Post #646 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:36 am

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In post 606, pisskop wrote:Im not even mad. A pr in this game is worthless.


pedit: nope. Townies dont need to defend themselves. they explain themselves.


I mean, defending and explaining.. Aren't they the same thing?
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Post Post #647 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:36 am

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Well, okay... I guess.
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Post Post #648 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:40 am

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In post 634, pisskop wrote:I like Fire. I like bebop, but hes new.


Do you just like his entrance? Is this a town read or just a general "he's okay for now" on Fire?
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Post Post #649 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:42 am

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In post 636, AlwaysInnocent wrote:Having read my own ISO, I feel like I should talk less. I sort of get why people are scumreading me. My mouth is too big. In a few posts I was advising against a Spigot lynch, which seems awfully scummy.

My basic idea was that townreading people should be more reliable than scumreading people (I still believe this). However, I became unjustifiably confident about some of my reads, as Spigot's scum flip proves. Even to the point of defending him, making it almost seem like I am his scum buddy (which I assure you I am not).

Honestly, if I didn't know what I was, I would be thinking that there was a link between us as well. But there isn't any. The truth is very simple. It was overconfidence.


Read your own ISO? Is that a thing people do? Why are you looking back at what you said? That reeks of making sure you didn't say something wrong, or looking to make sure you're not going to say something wrong. Also it's really early to be putting up an ATE... HOW can town think their mouth can be TOO BIG? Like that's the exact opposite of what I would think. Also if you were town, how could you possibly have a problem with how you're playing?

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