NY 192: Game Shop Mafia (Over)

[pisskop]

Assumptions: scum rarely bus day 1, I am town, if scum bus, they tend to be in the middle or back.

Looking at the major wagons that countered Dave. DeathNote and the cow are likely town slots. It can happen to have dueling scum lynches but rare.

Pisskop and Mollie are not both groupscum together more than likely.

FA is a decent cop check given her position opposite me as that would tell me a lot of what scum were planning then. I doubt we have one but *shrug*

Early rvs suggests scum didn't attempt to do much imo.

More details to come and probably more clarity as well.

Well titus? Are these what youve gleaned from your perfect use of vca?

Spoiler: You havent touched on how awful your vca has been

Titus, for the 'master of VCA', youre sure doing it wrong a lot this game, hunh?

Missing people mass jumpng wagons and screwing with orders, missing 900 post of progression, pretending to have conclusions that are not only vague as balls but dubious in quality.

Im about to put you into the Mollie corner and let you wail about.

[pisskop]

pisskop, I'm not understanding the "slip", even though you've talked about it a lot. Are you saying that Zulfy slipped that he knows I'm town? I've read the string of posts several times and don't see where Zulfy indicates having that knowledge.

He knows who nero investigated, but not the result? How would he think Nero is a cop but read the post where he claims to hve visited you and got a 'miller' result?

[Titus]

@Wicked, If I could, I wouldn't say Gut.

@Pisskop, I said your push on Mollie has been shit like 5 times now.

[pisskop]

Yes Thats completely alignment indicative and totally complete in its assessment of a slot.

[pisskop]

Im not sure where the townread of thecow/fire has come. Fire's typically aggressive when poked as scum, but I havent seen him as scum since . . . we were scum together in killalltownies.

[Titus]

Yes. There's no way you believe it. It's one thing to e wrong. It's another to push something inconsistent on its face.

I said Mollie was obvtown for demanding my VCA. You flail and say my read on Mollie isn't good enough. Then, you're pushing me to repeat myself over and over when everyone else gets my conclusions. You're taking Mollie's issue after it is a non issue and spamming the thread. You're not pushing anything you believe.

[Titus]

Im not sure where the townread of thecow/fire has come. Fire's typically aggressive when poked as scum, but I havent seen him as scum since . . . we were scum together in killalltownies.

No. He's not. He pleads with me to townread him. As town he's idgaf.

[pisskop]

Yes. There's no way you believe it. It's one thing to e wrong. It's another to push something inconsistent on its face.

I said Mollie was obvtown for demanding my VCA. You flail and say my read on Mollie isn't good enough. Then, you're pushing me to repeat myself over and over when everyone else gets my conclusions. You're taking Mollie's issue after it is a non issue and spamming the thread. You're not pushing anything you believe.

Get bent.

YOU, the one who successfully apathied the town into a lynch on Senator in StarTrek mafia, are talking about how Im pushing nonissues or too hard? Get real.

[pisskop]

I dont agree with mollie being town for asking you for something thats a staple from you.

My case on mollie is far from non-issues, and Im not getting how you think it is. Its probably because you havent read?

[Titus]

Yes. There's no way you believe it. It's one thing to e wrong. It's another to push something inconsistent on its face.

I said Mollie was obvtown for demanding my VCA. You flail and say my read on Mollie isn't good enough. Then, you're pushing me to repeat myself over and over when everyone else gets my conclusions. You're taking Mollie's issue after it is a non issue and spamming the thread. You're not pushing anything you believe.

Get bent.

YOU, the one who successfully apathied the town into a lynch on Senator in StarTrek mafia, are talking about how Im pushing nonissues or too hard? Get real.

I was town in Star Trek and you might as well have been scum "Senator". That's irrelevant though. Everyone has bad games.

You're just spamming and I am done.

[pisskop]

No, you never started. Im asking you to talk with me about your read and my read on mollie, and youre unwilling to.

[Keyser Söze]

Titus and Firebringer

, here was my early D2 scum case on pisskop. I will add to it this weekend:

Spoiler: Day Two case on pisskop

Here is my suspicion on pisskop.

Lets get our final wagons of the day in order.

dwlee
wicked
FA
The Cow

And possibly others. But honestly Id support a FA lynch the most rn.

Why was Dwlee99 part of your personal lynch pool? You had previously called him a town-lean (post 386). Your early D1 ISO was fixated on Frozen Angel, but I am not seeing your cases/pressure/pushes on TheCow or Wickedestjr. Post 632 feels like scum-indicative/opportunistic wagon pushing. "And possibly others" adds to that sentiment.

Pisskop had a little burst of activity and faded when it didn't yield anything. I have never seen him fail to attack something as town. It might not be a good attack and I usually scumread him for it, but it's consistent. The fact he's not doing anything speaks even louder than not doing anything that I would see as scummy.

eww. Can you do me a solid and read my scum meta?

its all in the wiki.

This exchange stinks. From davesaz's read of pisskop, and pisskop's

"read my scum meta, read my scum meta, read my scum meta"

reply...


pisskop sheeps a vote on davesaz's wagon (post 1016). pisskop had previously had no focus/press/case on davesaz.

We aren derailing this lynch; and sure as pootin' aint dong it before he claims.

Dont yo guys know how awful last minute wagon-switches are?

We arent hopping off an L-1 unclaimed person to go to another person. You wanted to rope dwlee, you should have done it before we L-1ed dave. Tomorrow/

Dave is going to claim, and we are going to move on from there.

Lets go balls to the walls and follow our feels or some shit.

Since when did pisskop think/know davesaz was scum? pisskop had presented no davesaz-scum narrative and is now its biggest pusher.

I feel like like pisskop realised davesaz was dead-weight scum and decided to bus -

who the f**k cares about a Mafia Neighbor anyway?

I sunk dave.

Incorrect. You pushed his wagon that already had momentum. You did not sink him with a scum-case either. Saying

"I sunk dave"

is scummy.


Posts that pisskop has not responded to:

Spoiler:

Lets get our final wagons of the day in order.

dwlee
wicked
FA
The Cow

And possibly others. But honestly Id support a FA lynch the most rn.

What the fuck is this pisskop?
Show me your scum case on these four players.
Go.

If they are unsatisfactory I will be voting you.
Add my name and DeathNote's to this list too as you've already hinted about it.

@pisskop - answer please.

It seems like you are trying to orchestrate the lynch wagons for D1.
You are in no position to do so.

Present your cases.
Push your cases.

No Darth Sidious shit.

So sue me or vote me.

Can you please answer my questions/serious concern from post 657 so I can move on.
You not responding stops any productive interactions between us.

I mean I have in my other posts; my other recent posts in which the same question was fielded.

Still not seeing it.

Why "dwlee, wicked, FA, The Cow"?

Why Keysor "would also be lynchable"?

Why "And possibly others"?


It seems like you were open to many lynches/orchestrating us.
I would prefer to see you push your own individual scum-cases, and not push multiple/possible lynch wagons.

The game only started this weekend, why did you feel you were in a position to post this?

If I could see evidence of your strong scum reads of "dwlee, wicked, FA, The Cow", "Keysor" and "possibly others" - I would understand.

pisskop continues to post in other threads but still neglects to address the pressing issues in this game. pisskop was one of the most active participants in this game, but I am very concerned that since the focus was on his posts/behaviour his activity has since declined.

I would like to hear his latest thoughts of the "final wagons" he was pushing two days ago. I feel like my vote has been wasted for two days on a non-active slot who isn't defending himself / scum-hunting.

eww. Can you do me a solid and read my scum meta?

its all in the wiki.

What does your scum meta in your "wiki" have to do with your scum indicative behaviour in

this

game?

Furthermore, please tell me if you still hold this mindset:

Or have your feelings of pushing "final wagons" of the above players changed? Moreover, please could you divulge who were the "And possibly others". I am very curious to hear your latest read of Frozen Angel.

[AngryPidgeon]

Vote Count 3.6

RadiantCowbells (6) - Firebringer, DeathNote, JarJarDrinks, Titus, Keyser Söze, pirate mollie
Titus (3) - RadiantCowbells, Dwlee99, pisskop
pirate mollie (1) - Nosferatu

Not voting (2) - Wickedestjr, Wake88,

(expired on 2016-01-22 11:59:59)

With 12 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

[Keyser Söze]

Get bent.

YOU, the one who successfully apathied the town into a lynch on Senator in StarTrek mafia, are talking about how Im pushing nonissues or too hard? Get real.

More evidence of vile-Chucky:

-aggressive language/discrediting Titus' current reads because of past games.

[Scum-indicative behaviour]

[Wickedestjr]

pisskop, I'm not understanding the "slip", even though you've talked about it a lot. Are you saying that Zulfy slipped that he knows I'm town? I've read the string of posts several times and don't see where Zulfy indicates having that knowledge.

He knows who nero investigated, but not the result? How would he think Nero is a cop but read the post where he claims to hve visited you and got a 'miller' result?

Where did he say he didn't know the result?

When Zulfy called Nero a cop in 4468, I don't think he actually thought Nero was just a cop. I think he knew Nero was a role cop, but categorized his claim as "cop" because role cop is a type of cop - he indicates that in 4477 where he says, "He did claim cop. Role cop". Doesn't look like a slip to me.

[Wickedestjr]

@Wicked, If I could, I wouldn't say Gut.

Can you explain, please?

I'm not seeing it

at all

.

[pisskop]

So if you all did lynch nero

A) what the hell yo

B) Are we going to lynch RC when he flips cop? Can we lynch mollie after that?

Where do you see evidence that he distinguished between the roles?

[pisskop]

He did claim cop. Role cop. Dont be pedantic or try to intimidate me

this is after the 'slip'

[Wickedestjr]

I don't.

That's why I think it's not a slip. "Cop" and "role cop" are not mutually exclusive descriptors.

P-edit: he said that after the 'slip', but I believe that's what he meant all along. That's how I read his 'slip' post...

[pisskop]

:[

Thats a pretty bad mistake to make, given the similar names. When I refer to a rolecop Ill say RC or rolecop. Because its not a cop. And when we're discussing a cop its all the worse.

[pisskop]

Who are you reading as what?

[Wickedestjr]

:[

Thats a pretty bad mistake to make, given the similar names. When I refer to a rolecop Ill say RC or rolecop. Because its not a cop. And when we're discussing a cop its all the worse.

But we treated Nero's claim as a cop claim by lynching him. We lynched him because his 'cop' claim was cc'd by RC.

[Keyser Söze]

The 'Zulfy scum-slip' is just an unsupported accusation (a lie) that scum had planned to come racing out of Day Three with to force a miss-lynch.

It is not a scum-slip.

No matter how many times they shout and requote it. Scum wanted DeathNote (bulletproof) and Titus (weak scum-slip accusation) lynched today.
Their argument to let their "two-shot cop" one more shot at the phantom serial killer is desperation

[pirate mollie]

Where have I shown that I hate wicked clearing?

See mollie, you can say a whole bunch of stuff, but you can never back it up.

here:

No. miller can exist as either. And since there was no alignment in the role there no reason to believe he is confed.

and here:

Well there we go. Itd take up 1 nonnormal slot of this large.

then you got pissy.

you have been blatantly lying about what I have been doing all game. the narrative on keyser looks forced and it is bad cos you are doing the same thing to him that you did to me.

rc shld have viewed me like he said he was going to, not view some1 whom he was solidly thinking was a sk. rc;s cop claim looks like a botched fakeclaim which is what I have already said. you are defending him and yet every now and then you throw out a little suspicion on him my guess it is to distance from him.

[pisskop]

We shouldnt have, and I didnt. I put my faith into RC.

I wanted to think about it.

Rolecop isnt a cop. their functions are inherently different.

vote: nero

okay. Ill mail you the bag.