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Post Post #950 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 4:47 am

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In post 949, Almost50 wrote:
In post 939, Frozen Angel wrote:I request protection tonight.


Yes. You, Smithereens, Jackal, and God knows who else. God help the doctor and the redirector.


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Post Post #951 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 4:56 am

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In post 948, Almost50 wrote:@Persivul: Check post #. See if it rings a bell.

That's where you said you'd scum read me if
Jackal
flipped scum.

Now you're claiming that you said you would scum read me if
Starbuck
flipped scum.

It's tough to keep lies straight...
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Post Post #952 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 5:01 am

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In post 951, Persivul wrote:
In post 948, Almost50 wrote:@Persivul: Check post #. See if it rings a bell.

That's where you said you'd scum read me if
Jackal
flipped scum.

Now you're claiming that you said you would scum read me if
Starbuck
flipped scum.

It's tough to keep lies straight...

Wow, you're right. Almost, did you legitimately not realize that you said Jackal and not Starbuck? Or did you change your story and hope that nobody would notice?
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Post Post #953 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 5:39 am

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@Blackstar: I honestly got the two mixed up in my head, as well as in my text remarks on my PC. You see, I put all 3 (Persivul, Starcuck & Jackal) as possibly belonging to the same faction. That was based on Persivul's refusal to even consider either of them over Wednesday, and Persivuls post #. If you recall I did mention I think one of the 4 modifiers claimed early on D1 was a fake to hide real scum, and if you look at my most recent read I stated 3 of them were
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3 I would not consider for a lynch today, so this leaves us with Persivul false claiming Hirsute to hide he is really a WW, which does coincide with Starbuck flipping as WW herself.
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Post Post #954 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 5:43 am

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This is also why I prefer a Persivul lynch over Jackal. Persivul is the "middleman" between the two. There's no obvious direct link between Starbuck & Jackal. The only link between the two is that Persivul defended them both hard enough he preferred a push on himself over either of them.
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Post Post #955 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 5:57 am

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In post 953, Almost50 wrote:@Blackstar: I honestly got the two mixed up in my head, as well as in my text remarks on my PC. You see, I put all 3 (Persivul, Starcuck & Jackal) as possibly belonging to the same faction. That was based on Persivul's refusal to even consider either of them over Wednesday, and Persivuls post #626.

Yes, in I said that I'd rather be lynched
MYSELF
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I'm voting the other
.

You need to learn how to abandon a theory when the facts go against it. I had a theory that the Jackal wagon was a desperate CW to Wednesday. I though Wed would flip red and we'd go through the Jackal wagon for the rest of the scum - easy peasy. BUT, Wednesday flipped independent. That's still agreat D1 lynch, but it completely blows the CW theory. I accept that and re-read ISOs overnight in light of that new information. Clinging to a pet theory regardless of the facts won't get you far in this game.
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Post Post #956 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:00 am

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In post 954, Almost50 wrote:This is also why I prefer a Persivul lynch over Jackal. Persivul is the "middleman" between the two. There's no obvious direct link between Starbuck & Jackal. The only link between the two is that Persivul defended them both hard enough he preferred a push on himself over either of them.

Hard defended? Are you a fucking idiot, or outright lying? Please, quote that oh so hard defense I made of them. :roll:

And did you notice that one's dead and
I'm voting the other
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Post Post #957 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:01 am

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@Almost50: what do you think about the man on the grassy knoll? :shifty:
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Post Post #958 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:04 am

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Firebringer is replacing Smithereens
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Post Post #959 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:05 am

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Hello guys, what is up?
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his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #960 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:06 am

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Hi there
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Post Post #961 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:07 am

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If my slot is voting UNVOTE:
I don't know how much I am going to read of this game. Maybe just what is in Day 2 if its under 20 pages.
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #962 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:10 am

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Hey Persivul is in this game!
Ohh joy, we are goign to have fun :)
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Post Post #963 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:10 am

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In post 960, BlackStar wrote:Hi there

Hello there, your avatar freaks me out.
Can you give me a catch up if it isn't too much trouble?
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Post Post #964 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:12 am

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In post 962, Firebringer wrote:Hey Persivul is in this game!
Ohh joy, we are goign to have fun :)

Actually it won't be too bad, at least on my part, as I was already reading your predecessor as town. Racist, ableist (when did that become a word?) town, but still town. Although she did claim to take a shot at me last night. Can you confirm that?
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Post Post #965 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:15 am

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In post 963, Firebringer wrote:
In post 960, BlackStar wrote:Hi there

Hello there, your avatar freaks me out.
Can you give me a catch up if it isn't too much trouble?

That's why i chose it haha. On day 1, Wednesday said he was 100% positive Ranger was town when he had only made 1 post at that point. He refused to explain why he knew ranger was town and wasn't answering any other questions so a wagon formed on him. then a counter wagon formed on Jackal out of nowhere. Near the deadline we finally lynched Wednesday and the flip showed that he was the survivor private investigator. Persivul pushed the hardest for the wedesday wagon and now everyone thinks that he is scum who somehow knew wednesday;s alignment. He also defended somebody who died at night and turned out to be a werewolf. Is that good enough?
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Post Post #966 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:19 am

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In post 963, Firebringer wrote:Can you give me a catch up if it isn't too much trouble?

Wednesday was big push of D1. Ranger was her main defender. Late in phase a wagon on Jackal (a lurker) sprang up very quickly and seemed like a CW. But, Wednesday flipped Survivor, so that wasn't the case. Your slot claims vig, says she shot me, but guessed that it was redirected since there were two gunshot deaths. But, it could be that I was protected and a PGO or something explains the second death. There is definitely a WW faction, and the two gunshot deaths seems to indicate a mafia faction as well, but roles could explain them too.

p-edit: "Persivul pushed the hardest for the wedesday wagon and now everyone thinks that he is scum who somehow knew wednesday;s alignment." Not true that everyone thinks that, and it makes no sense. If I'm scum I have no problem with a Jackal lynch unless we're teammates, and I'm now voting him.
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Post Post #967 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:19 am

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In post 965, BlackStar wrote:Is that good enough?

Yes, thank you.

Why would people assume he knew Wednesdays alignment? How would you know a survivors alignment? #Confused

BTW I hate Greatest Idea, the setup I think is bad.


@Persivul I don't know, mod hasn't given me any of my slots actions.
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #968 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:22 am

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Okay, yeah I can confirm what smithereens said.
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #969 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:26 am

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In post 967, Firebringer wrote:Why would people assume he knew Wednesdays alignment?

That was actually the first I heard that theory, but supposedly everyone thinks that. :eek:

Check Ranger's reads lists. IMO they're awful - two lurkers in the scum, lane in null even though it was clearly his town game.
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Post Post #970 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:29 am

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I could've sworn that somebody said the people who voted for Wednesday knew that he wasn't town and that's why the wagon formed. Also you don't need to take the word "everyone" so literally. I meant that quite a few people believe that you're scum. FA, Rc and other said that. I'm not sure about you yet
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Post Post #971 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:31 am

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In post 956, Persivul wrote:Are you a fucking idiot


Well, I sincerely do not appreciate this kind of phrasing. I know it's fine with everybody else, but I personally do not like to use it or for it to be used when addressing me. THANK YOU.

The fact that you're voting Jackal now lifts them up a notch, but doesn't affect you. I said it was YOU who linked Jackal & Starbuck and that there was no direct link between the two, The fact Starbuck flipped WW condemns YOU in a direct way, not Jackal. Now with you voting him he looks a tad better, while you're link with Starbuck stays intact.

The thing is I confess to being EXTREMELY confused by the roleclaims of the day not being alignment conclusive. I thus cannot rely on them to decide, and would still have to rely on other post content, interaction with other players and voting patterns. This is PRECISELY why I picked this role I'm in, btw. I needed to work on my analysis and case composition as opposed to getting info from investigations and roleclaiming. As I said I do NOT have investigative/informative/protective abilities at all, and no active killing abilities either. I specifically locked myself up to force me to THINK and get to conclusions w/o relying on info coming from the mod, and it's a bit confusing but I'm enjoying the ride to be honest, and if I'm still making mistakes I'm content with learning from them.
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Post Post #972 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:32 am

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In post 957, Persivul wrote:@Almost50: what do you think about the man on the grassy knoll?


Huh???
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Post Post #973 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:33 am

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In post 968, Firebringer wrote:Okay, yeah I can confirm what smithereens said.

BlackStar wrote:I could've sworn that somebody said the people who voted for Wednesday knew that he wasn't town and that's why the wagon formed. Also you don't need to take the word "everyone" so literally. I meant that quite a few people believe that you're scum. FA, Rc and other said that. I'm not sure about you yet


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Post Post #974 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:33 am

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I was wrong. I misread the post that I mentioned in post 970

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