In post 712, camn wrote:Also coffee.
So look- I am a little surprised we haven't hit scum yet.
That said, I still am thinking tic-tac is town, which leaves TWO scum in [franksa, pignash, KuroiXHF].
I have sadly seen lurker scum win WAY too many times, which would sit with a franksa/pignash scumteam.
Also, I haven't really checked.. but it seems like the night phases have gone all the way to deadline, which jives with a low-activity scumteam.
I think nights are always supposed to go to deadline? Haven't played in Jackal games before, so not sure how strict he is about it.
Frank has been practically oozing newbtown to me for most of the game.
I really didn't like his reasoning to get on Sarg-wagon thou. When I questioned him about it he added the bit about Sarg VT-reading Kuroi instead of just townreading him(
668).
I'm iffy about going for lurk-scum (as sole reasoning) in a daytalk-game. A lot less reason to think scum would use that method to hide.
Pigs hammer seemed very self-defesy to me. Hammering someone who wasn't his prime-suspect just cause Sarg was scumreading him.
Might have been because he feared my Kuroi push would gain momentum and went for the mis-lynch before that could happen. If it's Kuroi-pig, Kuroi has done a pretty decent job of distancing today thou.
Also, I would expect to be dead if Kuroi is scum.
On the other hand, the scumteam seems...efficient? Which maybe opens the door for Kuroiscum, as he at least seems more engaged?
I re-read over the night phase really looking at day 1. I don't think the scumteam hit Rask by chance.. and it was occurring to me YESTERDAY that maybe Plotinus was scum after all, and had seen some sort of soft claim.. but I couldnt really find it. I asked him about it yesterday.. and it seemed more like he was reading Rask as roleFISHING than roleCLAIMING. In any event, Plot is now flipped town, so there goes that idea.
Yeah. Plot-camn was a distinct possibility to me yesterday, from the way day 1 lynch seemed to change direction when PC expressed a scumread of ya. Was overshadowed by Kuroi then, glad that I don't need to worry about that now.
Tictac- you are the only one I have a decent townread on now (although I have been pretty
wrong
this game).. so Ima run some things by you.
1st: Could Kuroi's cop-talk have been HIM rolefishing? And did Rask drop a hint?
1. Yeah, could well be. Especially if a cop had picked up his protocol for crumbing results, would have made him easy to spot by night 2.
2. Not as far as I can see. He did call CC 'VT' thou, which could be seen as a hint, but makes sense in the context of 'why did CC drop out'.
Like this:
In post 292, Raskolnikov wrote: In post 283, KuroiXHF wrote:And I'm all for doing more than just waiting for cop to do our jobs for us. I'm sure I could be doing a better job, just like everyone else can seeing as perfection is always sought after, but never reached. Still, with that being said, I don't think I'm on the list of people who aren't doing their job.
Minor nitpick but as far as I know cop isn't confirmed to be in our game. Read about the Matrix6 setup.
Ok checked and there are 6 variations and cop is only in 2 of them, so that's a 1/3 chance assuming each variation is equally likely. That's not much.
Maybe this was enough.. and Kuroi read it as "the damsel doth protest too much?"
Bit of a long-shot, but possible.
I'm still thinking that if Kuroi is scum, the purpose was more likely to be to make the 'newbtell' stronger by making Rask confirmed town, than because he knew Rask was a cop.
I don't know if I buy it..
Do you see anything else? i know you were looking into this angle Day 2.
About why Rask was nightkilled?
If frank is scum he would have wanted to spare me & Plot, cause we were both hard-townreading him. Rask was the third most active high-effort player.
Already expressed the Kuroi-scum theory.
Might just be because he had good reads and had conviction in them. He was pretty strongly against PC lynch.