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Post Post #375 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2016 2:14 pm

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In post 374, Trebuchet MS wrote:I disagree with the Anti townreads. I see all his posts so far as just playing surface-level on like, the typical conversational town-Anti calling cards.

I know that didn't make any sense, but what I mean is I see him trying to subvert the typical scum-Anti lurker meta by trying to hand me a bunch of easy stock statements, barely alignment-indicative posts (for him, at least) instead.

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This is all false, what game are you reading?
And even if what you said about what anti's posting was true, i doubt he'd be able to subvert his scum meta that easily.
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Post Post #376 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2016 2:19 pm

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Yeah after I made that post I thought I might be doing that thing where I give Anti too much credit as scum out of fear of incorrectly prematurely townreading him for the first time.

I don't remember seeing a scum!Anti capable of snarky or even independent thought - that's not meant to be a personal attack but something we've all taken to be inherently true up to now.

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Post Post #377 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2016 2:20 pm

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Like I want to scumread Anti for the purely selfish reason that I don't want to be wrong about a townread on him at any time. I think that might be tainting the actual perception here.

I still stand by my point that his ISO feels relatively devoid of life as compared to usual though.

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Post Post #378 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2016 2:21 pm

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VOTE: trebuchet ms
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Post Post #379 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2016 2:24 pm

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In post 377, Trebuchet MS wrote:I still stand by my point that his ISO feels relatively devoid of life as compared to usual though.

well let's see, it might be a blitz game that's unusually devoid of content and i've never played in before.

the rest is..................just bullshit
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Post Post #380 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2016 2:25 pm

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you could talk about your phantom townread

OR
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you can smear me and talk about how i'm being oh so tricksies
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Post Post #381 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2016 2:26 pm

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In post 202, Wisdom wrote:Why do scum lie about meta reads, Expedience? It's something that can be cross-checked. If Ether indicated that she has had experience with scum-Cobalt, and he was more serious, then that's true, regardless of Ether's alignment.

I think that Scatterplot carelessly threw out a townread at PhantomCobalt and then used meta to justify it afterwards. If they came out originally saying that they thought PhantomCobalt was town from meta then I think they would put more thought into their stance beforehand and it wouldn't be so full of holes, but they had to be pushed to provide reasoning.
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Post Post #382 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2016 2:27 pm

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In post 216, Scatterplot wrote:@Expedience: 1) I have seen him claim scum
with another town player
as town. I have seen him fakeclaim cop as VT. I did look at the werewolf game and it's more complicated than that. The point is that it takes some amount of effort to read him and that includes giving him a little bit of space to do his thing in before just lynching him because he said something sloppy.

If it takes some amount of effort to read him, why did you write him off as town so quickly?

There's something he was doing in that werewolf game that he isn't doing here but he might do it later and I'm not going to say what it is to warn him not to do it. I don't understand why you don't understand this.

This is in reference and has relevance to..? Are you referring to him unscrupulously voting a counterwagon to save his partner, because he's already aware that this is a weakness of his play. If you meant that: Sure he isn't doing that yet, that isn't relevant to your townread on him currently.

It's not a binary "he jokes as town and doesn't as scum". A few people made me laugh in the first pages and that gave me happy feelings, and some of them additionally gave me townfeelings and some of them didn't so much. But it's something about his tone that I don't want to elaborate on
right now
but will elaborate on later if I want to. And meanwhile he has barely posted in the last few hours and I still need to see more from him and I'm not going to tell him what he needs to do more of!

3) As I said before, because Ether and I arrived at the same conclusion via different paths.

So what's your current read on him at this point? Still a townlean? Because I get the feeling that you're continuing to try and back down here.

Like this feels like when I think of something funny, but it's not really half as funny as I think it is, and ten minutes later i'm still laughing about it, and then everyone's asking me what's so funny why are you laughing, and i can barely choke out an answer and if I try to explain then nobody understands why it's funny and you can keep asking me but what's so funny about that and i feel like i've been explaining for 5 pages why i'm cracking up about a pun and why do you even care if it's not funny to you then it's not funny to you just let me laugh in my corner about it.

...okay I don't really relate? ._.

Like Ranger has Trebuchet MS as her third tier townread so i guess that's a townlean and where i'd probably have put phantom when we first made that post about Phantom after Ether and I were talking about him in AIM and yet we're not spending 5 pages interrogating Ranger about why Trebuchet is in group 3 instead of group 4 or group 2. And that's good because it's a pointless topic to spend 5 pages on. Who the fuck cares whether she has slightly stronger townread on wisdom than on trebuchet. Or we're not asking her why she had such a strong read on hippy loppy when he'd barely posted at that point. And we shouldn't be. It doesn't matter.

Well, I'm not townreading PhantomCobalt so it bothers me that you are. It was more than just the read that makes you scummy, but the way that you responded to pressure and people attacking your read. Although Wisdom assures me that this is all null, isn't that nice.

But I know Ranger really likes lists and often has reads which I don't agree with, so I don't really care about her at the moment.
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Post Post #383 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2016 2:29 pm

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In post 217, Antihero wrote:
In post 172, Expedience wrote:
In post 169, Antihero wrote:
In post 162, Expedience wrote:r see why that wagon is moving so fast.

oh boy...

...

No, Antihero, I am not implying some nebulous scum influence on talah's wagon. Nor am I implying that he is likely to be town due to this. I am simply stating that I don't support the wagon much and disagree with those who do.

"speed of the wagon" is informationless garbage

Nice to know.
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Post Post #384 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2016 2:38 pm

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ANTI OH MY GOD ARE YOU ACTUALLY SCUM
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Post Post #385 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2016 2:39 pm

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In post 279, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 276, Wisdom wrote:I will continue telling you you're tunneling everytime you mention it.

In post 278, Wisdom wrote:Your gut is bad

^
Scum trying to discredit

You seem to be doing exactly this yourself:
In post 264, Sakura Hana wrote:Wisdom will try to overturn everything i say in a way that makes it look scummy.


Also I can't tell your avatar apart from the mod's and it's pissing me off.
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Post Post #386 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2016 2:44 pm

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In post 366, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 359, talah wrote:Actually all I understood was that Sakura can get emotional, fast

Actually that doesn't happen nearly as often nowadays.

That's good to know.
I didn't even realise you were Luna Fox in our last game till postgame but I managed to read you okay there. I think that was because of genuine scumhunting though.

What's with your Wisdom-scum tunnel this game?
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Post Post #387 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2016 2:46 pm

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In post 386, talah wrote:What's with your Wisdom-scum tunnel this game?

He's scum, and i'm giving him his own medicine.

But in that large i was mostly townhunting and using a different playstyle, so technically that wasn't scumhunting until like Day 2 when all the duplicate roles made me go wtf.
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Post Post #388 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2016 2:56 pm

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In post 384, Trebuchet MS wrote:ANTI OH MY GOD ARE YOU ACTUALLY SCUM

yep

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Post Post #389 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2016 2:56 pm

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HURRY UP MARQUIS, GET SPIFFEH TO COME IN HERE AND DO DAMAGE CONTROL AND HAVE HIM TALK ABOUT HOW HE DISAGREES WITH YOU

PEOPLE TOWNREAD HYDRA DISSONANCE
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Post Post #390 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2016 2:57 pm

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In post 345, PhantomCobalt wrote:
In post 344, Ankamius wrote:
In post 340, PhantomCobalt wrote:@Ank can you really be wrong with a tell, though?


Sakura and I have extensive experience with each other. Just going by statistics, the odds of me being right over you are pretty high.


Ok, I understand.

Damn. Scatterplot / PC are both scum, aren't they. This is almost too fucking easy.
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Post Post #391 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:00 pm

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Also I love how Wisdom's scumread on me magically vanished after i started pushing him and scatter and he realized i wasn't going to be easy to mislynch.
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Post Post #392 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:02 pm

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In post 372, Wisdom wrote:Phantom/KT/Expedience.

Hi, how's it going.
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Post Post #393 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:05 pm

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In post 359, talah wrote:
In post 177, Wisdom wrote:
In post 162, Expedience wrote:Basically all that I noticed about talah was the serious conversation starting thing trying to move out of RVS and I don't find it scummy or see why that wagon is moving so fast.

Because talah understood I was voting Sakura to poke her for reactions yet not only felt the need to mention it, he asked me why I was voting her on top of that.

It's kind of rich to say I "understood" something when actually I took a guess based on you making a naked vote against Sakura.
Actually all I understood was that Sakura can get emotional, fast, and you tend to not give a crap about that if you're scum.

So I wanted to know how you were approaching things and it's as good a topic as any to push out of RVS.

See, this is the decent explanation I was waiting for him to post.
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Post Post #394 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:06 pm

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In post 387, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 386, talah wrote:What's with your Wisdom-scum tunnel this game?

He's scum, and i'm giving him his own medicine.

But in that large i was mostly townhunting and using a different playstyle, so technically that wasn't scumhunting until like Day 2 when all the duplicate roles made me go wtf.

I just skimmed the first part of that game - it was scumhunting as well. The fact that you used it to form up PoE first doesn't take away from that.

That said I'm not too worried about you for today.
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So now i'm just wondering if the RC tunnel on Scatterplot is genuine or not.
I'm way more cautious about Plotinus than I was last game (I was in the game that RC's consta-referring to while arguing with them).
Tending townish on the Mad King. Not sure if a Scatterplot lynch is the best idea for today from my perspective as Plotinus isn't going to be an easy read for me, but I've been wrong about my own assessment of RC's reads before. A lot of Plot's reasoning is quite craptastic despite there being a lot of words involved. So I can see that side of it.

I could probably sheep if it comes down to it but want to do some other stuff today too.
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Post Post #395 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:08 pm

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In post 393, Expedience wrote:See, this is the decent explanation I was waiting for him to post.

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Post Post #396 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:09 pm

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Third scum is probably Trebuchet or Sakura imo. I haven't decided which of those arguments is TvT yet.

The way Trebuchet backed down from Anti in looks bad, as does the constant shit-flinging between Wisdom and Sakura (out of which Wisdom emerges the more reasonable-looking).
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Post Post #397 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:11 pm

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In post 395, talah wrote:
In post 393, Expedience wrote:See, this is the decent explanation I was waiting for him to post.

:\

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Post Post #398 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:13 pm

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In post 396, Expedience wrote:The way Trebuchet backed down from Anti in 376 looks bad,

and then he ramped it up again AFTER i voted him

that too
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Post Post #399 (ISO) » Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:15 pm

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It seems like you have a predisposition to wanting to townread me and want to have a reason to reinforce that after the fact.

Maybe this more appropriate
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