NY 192: Game Shop Mafia (Over)

[DeathNote]

Hey quote it and I'll believe you and even unvote.

[Dwlee99]

Quote what?

[Nosferatu]

you catching him I believe.

[Dwlee99]

Uhm golden why did you go from town reading me to scum reading me? You did the same to fb as well?
To answer your question though.. heres what has happened
He was acting scummy => scum
Claimed bp in a hood => sk possibility but maybe bp goon to protect against multiball
That hood had flipped group scum => non group scum sk
Flipped mafia cop => Some 3p or multiball
Flipped mafia cop that claimed a guilty on deathnote => this one is sort of wifom but still

This evidence might actually point to a second group scjm actually maybe 3-2 but I dont see a second group scum no killing though.

[Dwlee99]

The muddle is me catching you, dn, well, i did it earlier but those are the reasons.

[Dwlee99]

middle

[DeathNote]

That's not catching me, that's spitballing an SK theory that had already been crafted by RC.

[Dwlee99]

-_-

[DeathNote]

Why do you think I chose to share the info about DN? In case there is scum in the hood.
The BP makes me think SK, TBH.

This was the very first mention of me ever being an SK. Sorry mate, you didn't come up with it.

[Dwlee99]

Did mollie just 360 her read of me? In a naked vote..?

I think I have the scum team down to mollie cow and nero with one of those people possibly being replaced by deathnote as an sk candidate.

This is when I first considered you being sk as far as a ctrl f search gives. Also reading through my iso I am obvtowning wtf is wrong with you guys..

[pisskop]

youre spazzing out posts with little regard to the longtem consequences sure.

[Dwlee99]

Omg I am super fricken sure you are sk. You arent even denying it rn.. You are just sating "hahah you didnt find me out first".
pedit what does that mean pk >.<

[Errantparabola]

@Errant

IDK how you can read everything that happend w/ the RC lynch and not have Keysor and Mollie as conftown.

Like pisskop is scum that has been deathtunneling mollie the whole game and even HE wont touch her wagon.

Dwlee is the ONLY acceptable alternative to pisskop lynch today.

1. RC's lifespan after the twoshot claim was severely limited.
2. RC's wagon did not dip below 4-5 votes once it gained traction.
3. It is an entirely reasonable belief, from mollie (less so keyser) pov, that they don't have enough towncred to affect that gamestate, and even if they did, preventing a lynch for one more day is simply not enough to put town on an actual clock since RC is eventually going to eat rope anyway in this alternate universe. This also extends to Titus (I am townreading Zulfy-slot for reasons independent of pushes on RC).

So if I'm wrong about the whole traitor deal then there are certainly 4 groupscum. If I'm right then there still might be 4 groupscum.
I think there is a decent chance I'm wrong but traitor is still very plausible given lack of SK kill and mafcop.
If there are 4 groupscum, then there is one scum in pisskop-dwlee (and I think I've made it clear who I think is the scummier) and one scum in FB-keyser-mollie.
It just doesn't make sense for 2 groupscum to hard defend someone who's life is on a timer. It just doesn't make sense for 2 groupscum to hard defend scum knowing that neither of them have the towncred to seriously divert a lynch off of RC, and when RC eventually dies, their lives will be at stake. I could see one groupscum doing it, sure. But two is just ridiculous.
That's why I'm not ruling out FB-keyser-mollie group. Because there's a fair chance that we're looking at a 4 person scumteam.

[pisskop]

i can see nobody has a bead theyll push outside of the standard. Remind me to promise to iso RC with thoughts.


Feel free to add to the list here:

- RC bussed dave and encouraged people to join his wagon.
- RC self hammered after I told her I would hammer her
- I want to look specifically at her reads at and around the nero claim
- Several questions I asked seemed to have stalled or cogdis answers to them I didnt push. Does anyone else remember feeling like this? pls tell me what/when.



it means, dwlee, that youve been posting in the moment instead of in the longterm

[Dwlee99]

You seriously think I am scum over playstyle rn pk? Are you serious?

[Errantparabola]

and by the way JJD.
just because pisskop deathtunneled mollie and then flipped to thinking she was town postflips doesn't mean that pisskop is the end-all be-all for mollie reading.

[Errantparabola]

ignore that last post. I just remembered you thought pisskop was scum and it makes sense in that context.

[Dwlee99]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p7487297
Read this conversation between rc and I, how is this s v s in any circumstance.

[Dwlee99]

Start at the top of the page if it doesnt.

[Nosferatu]

Uhm golden why did you go from town reading me to scum reading me? You did the same to fb as well?
To answer your question though.. heres what has happened
He was acting scummy => scum
Claimed bp in a hood => sk possibility but maybe bp goon to protect against multiball
That hood had flipped group scum => non group scum sk
Flipped mafia cop => Some 3p or multiball
Flipped mafia cop that claimed a guilty on deathnote => this one is sort of wifom but still

This evidence might actually point to a second group scjm actually maybe 3-2 but I dont see a second group scum no killing though.

You know, the human body isn't actually the same one from when you were born. As you age, your parts are replaced by new nutrients and amino acids and other things you get from the outside world.

• The lining in stomach and intestine every 4 days
  
• The Gums are replaced every 2 weeks
  
• The Skin replaced every 4 weeks
  
• The Liver replaced every 6 weeks
  
• The Lining of blood vessels replaced every 6 months
  
• The Heart replaced every 6 months
  
• The Surface cells of digestion, top layer cells in the digestion process from our mouth through our large bowel are replaced every 5 minutes

so every 7-10 years, nearly all of the molecules in your body are completely different from what they were before. It's possible that you have molecules from other people, maybe even from this mafia game!

This is sort of difficult to explain... but what I'm trying to get at is that...

your posts show that as of right now, you don't have an original bone in your body.

purely talking about your posts, not your personality.

I don't see anything in that case that is directly from you or is really evidence that DN is scum. Correct me if I'm wrong but,

"He was acting scummy => scum" <- this was the general attitude of the town D1, especially if my mind serves me correctly frogger and RC.
"Claimed bp in a hood => sk possibility but maybe bp goon to protect against multiball" <- This is a fact, and tbqhwyf it's not really helping your argument with DN as scum. This would implicate him as possible sk, but not as goon. 2x scum and 1x town doesn't happen in a hood.
"That hood had flipped group scum => non group scum sk" <- I don't think this is really anymore information than the point above.
"Flipped mafia cop => Some 3p or multiball" <- arguable, but only points to the >>possible<< existence of a 3p/multiball. But there have been no kills.
"Flipped

mafia

cop that

claimed

a guilty on deathnote => this one is sort of wifom but still" <- I don't think I need to point out why this is sketchy at best.

The thing is, you're going after this lynch hard. But there's not much pointing to the possible sk being DN other than RC's word. But you're still gunning after this. The logical conclusion for this is you don't think RC was lying. Why would town trust the word of a confirmed scum? An easy answer would be if there was significant evidence that the claim was true. But that's not here. So you must have another way of knowing if the claim was true. If you were his scumbuddy, you'd know he wasn't lying by the fact that he would have told you on an earlier night in scum pt.

So either your read on DN is insincere and you're scum trying to protect a buddy, or your "read" is sincere and you're scum trying to get rid of the competition.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p7487297
Read this conversation between rc and I, how is this s v s in any circumstance.

Please explain how this conversation clears you from being buddies with RC?

[Dwlee99]

WAIT. THAT POST DEATHNOTE QUOED FROM DAVE CONFIRMS AN SK. SCUM WERE LOOKING FOR AN SK BECAUSE LOOK AT THAT POST. THEY SUSPECTED ONE (doubt that would of come to mind if 4 scum in a team)

pedit because why the fuck would I be having a conversation that is me pressuring my scum partner for not knowing ky scum meta because and saying if town they would know I was town based on my play but not realizing that they werent in that game. Same wirh them saying before about being scared. For some reason this made more sense in my head.

[Dwlee99]

Fuck never answered the why - because Dn was already scummy af and a guilty on them that proves it more to me. Plus dn doesnt deny being sk anymore.
I wonder if the deadchat got spoilers. I want to see all the stuff about me playing like shit even though my iso is obvtown af.

[Dwlee99]

If tou guys lynch me I better get a big bag of 3 musketeers with an apology note from all town on my wagon

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Dave

I dig

Is this how scum lynch their buddy? Do you think that?

[Nosferatu]

WAIT. THAT POST DEATHNOTE QUOED FROM DAVE CONFIRMS AN SK. SCUM WERE LOOKING FOR AN SK BECAUSE LOOK AT THAT POST. THEY SUSPECTED ONE (doubt that would of come to mind if 4 scum in a team)

pedit because why the fuck would I be having a conversation that is me pressuring my scum partner for not knowing ky scum meta because and saying if town they would know I was town based on my play but not realizing that they werent in that game. Same wirh them saying before about being scared. For some reason this made more sense in my head.

1. scum was looking for an sk -> there is an sk

I will never understand that logic.

2. It isn't even pressure. It's literally

"u dont kno my scum meta"
"ive never finished a game with u"
"oh"

In what way does a 4-6 post exchange that clears up before the halfway mark on the page clear you as anything?

VOTE: Dave

I dig

Is this how scum lynch their buddy? Do you think that?

>late on wagon
>no real opinion on wagon
>dave was going down anyway

uhh, yeah, that is how scum lynch their buddies.