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Post Post #925 (ISO) » Sat Jan 23, 2016 9:52 am

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In post 886, Mad King Ashnard wrote:That said, if Expedience flips town I will obviously reevaluate.

Will you?

Because really I see you just going "oh ok then ocean was wking expedience that makes sense pls lynch 100% certain". Even the preflip associations you're currently drawing are useless and leading you down the wrong track.

Town needs to pressure PhantomCobalt into doing something, he's gone inactive and is probably scum. I would also suggest copping RC for safety, since he looks confident enough this game to push mislynch after mislynch and get away with it.
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Post Post #926 (ISO) » Sat Jan 23, 2016 9:55 am

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In post 924, hiplop wrote:Yea, his "I don't scumhubt" pissed me off but I'm not sure if he just bothers me or if he's scum

that's horseshit, btw. i know firebringer knows how to scumhunt and will do it as town even if he eventually falls into apathy. ppl don't replace into games and then immediately become apathetic though.
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Post Post #927 (ISO) » Sat Jan 23, 2016 9:59 am

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Expedience looks better

Help I need scumreads

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Post Post #928 (ISO) » Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:02 am

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Post Post #929 (ISO) » Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:02 am

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In post 926, Antihero wrote:that's horseshit, btw. i know firebringer knows how to scumhunt and will do it as town even if he eventually falls into apathy. ppl don't replace into games and then immediately become apathetic though.

Honestly dude I think you might be giving him too much credit. Many games with me he has replaced in and done absolutely nothing, refusing to read the game
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Post Post #930 (ISO) » Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:03 am

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Post Post #931 (ISO) » Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:04 am

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In post 930, Ankamius wrote:sdfklajlkfdjalskghlasdfk
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Post Post #932 (ISO) » Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:06 am

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Ocean, I just re-read your case and I actually agree. I have this weird read on the plotinus hydra where I think plot is town but ether is scum. I need more time to figure out if plot is playing me I think
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Post Post #933 (ISO) » Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:17 am

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Town: {Scatterplot, Antihero, Mad King Ashnard, hiplop}
Nulltown: {Ranger, Trebuchet MS, Sakura Hana}
Ugh I don't fucking know: {Ankamius, Expedience, Firebringer, PhantomCobalt, OceanWind}


None of the latter five have done anything to make me feel confident I'm looking at scum, and in all of the cases I find myself wondering if it's just the playstyle I'm disliking. OceanWind is a special case in that talah felt town but Ocean's aggressiveness against Scatterplot made me question that.
I also worry my trio of nulltown could actually be scum and wish they did town things so I can stop worrying.
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Post Post #934 (ISO) » Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:23 am

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Wisdom why are you so unsure about yourself this game?

I feel like you are more confident and stubborn as town

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Post Post #935 (ISO) » Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:27 am

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In post 913, Scatterplot wrote:I think you're town. Antihero's town. Hiplop feels town for admitting to Plotinus that he couldn't understand them, even though what they were getting at seems obvious to me, um...I think other people are townreading hiplop for other things but that's the only thing that ever left an impression on me.

I'm just going to run with the vague townfeels for Firebringer thing for now, that's the best I can do.

I...think Sakura's town but I think I could be missing something? I don't know her scumgame. I know I find her kind of annoying, which was also true for her towngame in 1656, but kind of less pronounced here, but I think it's more likely to come from her as town.

Wisdom feels off. I don't actually have any clue how to read him and I am pretty sure I got lucky last time, but still.

Despite never feeling the talah wagon based on my actual catch-up, Plotinus did point out that talah was a lot less flaily when he got strung up as town in Mini 1742. He could be scum? There is nothing scummy about OceanWind's attack on me, but I can't read him until I pull him off. Scum or town, he believed this before he got his role.

Ranger is lurking.

Expedience and Phantom are my best bets for scum.

Trebuchet is completely under my radar. It's weird that Raskol isn't talking in the Ashnard hydra, buuuuuuuuuuut.

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Sakura's the single biggest question mark I have right now. All my past experience with her is telling me that she's literally confscum but my gut's telling me that I'm missing something critical that makes her more likely to be town.
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Post Post #936 (ISO) » Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:38 am

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Town:
Antihero
Expedience
Firebringer
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Mad King Ashnard
Scatterplot

Null:
Trebuchet MS
Wisdom

Scum:
OceanWind
PhantomCobalt
Ranger
Sakura Hana

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This is roughly where my reads are right now.
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Post Post #937 (ISO) » Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:43 am

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explain why sakura is your biggest questionmark, but also your top scumread?

Why don't we lynch oceanwind? I feel we might have given her a classic free pass cuz talah replaced out? I like her recent catch up but I still feel MUCH more comfortable there than firebringer
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Post Post #938 (ISO) » Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:46 am

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My reads list is ordered alphabetically, not by order of read strength.

Sakura's the read I'm least sure of, not the nullest.
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Post Post #939 (ISO) » Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:47 am

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offtopic: why do you do it alphabetically?
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Post Post #940 (ISO) » Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:49 am

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I order/format things according to whatever I feel like at the time. There's no rhyme or reason to it that I can point to.
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Post Post #941 (ISO) » Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:50 am

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Although really, that reads list is probably better taken as how much effort it would take to get me on board a particular wagon today since we're very close to deadline.
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Post Post #942 (ISO) » Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:53 am

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In post 933, Wisdom wrote:Town: {Scatterplot, Antihero, Mad King Ashnard, hiplop}
Nulltown: {Ranger, Trebuchet MS, Sakura Hana}
Ugh I don't fucking know: {Ankamius, Expedience, Firebringer, PhantomCobalt, OceanWind}


None of the latter five have done anything to make me feel confident I'm looking at scum, and in all of the cases I find myself wondering if it's just the playstyle I'm disliking. OceanWind is a special case in that talah felt town but Ocean's aggressiveness against Scatterplot made me question that.
I also worry my trio of nulltown could actually be scum and wish they did town things so I can stop worrying.


you better revote expedience.
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Post Post #943 (ISO) » Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:56 am

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Post Post #944 (ISO) » Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:58 am

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No fucking way.

We're not letting scum strongarm the lynch here; lynch Expedience.
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Post Post #945 (ISO) » Sat Jan 23, 2016 11:10 am

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Post Post #946 (ISO) » Sat Jan 23, 2016 11:19 am

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Do you think Expedience's comes from scum?
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Post Post #947 (ISO) » Sat Jan 23, 2016 11:20 am

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I would also suggest copping RC for safety, since he looks confident enough this game to push mislynch after mislynch and get away with it.


This is incredibly scummy so yes.
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Post Post #948 (ISO) » Sat Jan 23, 2016 11:21 am

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What's scummy about that?
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Post Post #949 (ISO) » Sat Jan 23, 2016 11:23 am

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Feels like he's trying to doubtcast me based on paranoia of my scum play.

The other half is that, well, I simply don't like the Firebringer wagon all that much.

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