Open 631 - Diffusion of Power (Over)


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Post Post #500 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:06 am

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In post 492, KainTepes wrote:if you want you can even lynch ME,, any information is better than a NO LYNCH on day 1

Not true would you rather lynch a town or no one? We are so much more likely to lynch town right now. We get a lot more info after tonight.
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Post Post #501 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:08 am

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On its face, that argument makes no sense. Obviously a town-influenced kill is better than nothing. Also I more or less reject the notion that NKs give "information." That what people always say, but I don't actually find it to be true.
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Post Post #502 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:10 am

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In post 501, Lowell wrote:On its face, that argument makes no sense. Obviously a town-influenced kill is better than nothing. Also I more or less reject the notion that NKs give "information." That what people always say, but I don't actually find it to be true.

Ummmmm, not just the kill we also have ss to check, although he will probably be nkd if he isn't lying. Also how do you not get info? You learn thing you previously didn't know, that's the definition of new information.
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Post Post #503 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:12 am

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We are not going to no-lynch.
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Post Post #504 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:13 am

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I dont remember who was worse in this game, but I dislike how nobody is taking steps in ay direction

VOTE: lowell

I remember him tipping me off slightly before. Somebody who isnt lowell tell me why Im wrong
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Post Post #505 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:14 am

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In post 504, pisskop wrote:I dont remember who was worse in this game, but I dislike how nobody is taking steps in ay direction

VOTE: lowell

I remember him tipping me off slightly before. Somebody who isnt lowell tell me why Im wrong

No argument here. I've been saying lowell and kts all along.
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Post Post #506 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:18 am

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In post 504, pisskop wrote:
VOTE: lowell

Somebody who isnt lowell tell me why Im wrong


Defenders, I SUMMON THEE! Defend my honor!
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Post Post #507 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:25 am

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In post 506, Lowell wrote:
In post 504, pisskop wrote:
VOTE: lowell

Somebody who isnt lowell tell me why Im wrong


Defenders, I SUMMON THEE! Defend my honor!

This isn't needed, and I really don't understand your motivation here. You are either leading scum buddies, or being obnoxious. Howeve you aren't. THAT obnoxious. SO, scum?
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Post Post #508 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:25 am

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I thought it was in good spirits
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Post Post #509 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:26 am

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Thank you, PK, for defending my sense of humor, if not my towniness.

But no, shotty, not scum. Let's work on this together.
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Post Post #510 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:37 am

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In post 509, Lowell wrote:Thank you, PK, for defending my sense of humor, if not my towniness.

But no, shotty, not scum. Let's work on this together.

Give me an alternative. I'll help you bus kts.
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Post Post #511 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:25 am

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In post 500, drmyshottyizsik wrote:
In post 492, KainTepes wrote:if you want you can even lynch ME,, any information is better than a NO LYNCH on day 1

Not true would you rather lynch a town or no one? We are so much more likely to lynch town right now. We get a lot more info after tonight.


I'd rather lynch a townie than nobody, and I'll hammer if we get to less than 24 hours left. (If nobody's on L-1, I'll move my vote to the most popular wagon.)

The reasoning is even if we lynch a townie, we still have info about who was on the wagon, which is better than nothing at least.
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Post Post #512 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:28 am

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How about scum win rates jump by almost 10% when there are an even number of players?

NL makes scum more than 10% more likely to win from a numbers standpoint
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Post Post #513 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:30 am

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Great, let's bus KTS together. He's gone MIA again right when I was thinking he might be town.
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Post Post #514 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:54 am

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i still dont like KTS implying i am a VI but apart from that and his TERRIBLE MOUTH i have no other read on him,,
I AM KAIN TEPES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Post Post #515 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:13 am

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In post 513, Lowell wrote:Great, let's bus KTS together. He's gone MIA again right when I was thinking he might be town.

Don't try to.buddy up you are scum. Let's be clear you are bussing him. i am hunting him.
VOTE: kts
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Post Post #516 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:14 am

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eww man
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Post Post #517 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:23 am

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In post 485, Autti wrote:I literally just explained it.

To take a bullet for a more important role.

Not sure what is complex about that.


Well, ok. It just didn't rhyme with my own line of thoughts. I think a N5 Cop is even more important than a N1 Cop. On N5 we're likely to be on a LyLo, so one investigation + surviving the night wins us the game. On N1 though they're got too many targets to pick from, so it's not going to be a big thing unless they DO hit on scum.

Put another way, if I was Mafia I would NOT shoot the N1 Cop. They have a smaller chance of hitting on scum, and they're basically a VT afterwards, so one less person to worry about.

But to each their own, and I see where you're coming from. I just don't agree.

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Post Post #518 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:30 am

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In post 515, drmyshottyizsik wrote:
In post 513, Lowell wrote:Great, let's bus KTS together. He's gone MIA again right when I was thinking he might be town.

Don't try to.buddy up you are scum. Let's be clear you are bussing him. i am hunting him.
VOTE: kts


Aren't you suggestible.
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Post Post #519 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:32 am

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In post 492, KainTepes wrote:if you want you can even lynch ME,, any information is better than a NO LYNCH on day 1


And what info are we supposed to have from your flip?

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Post Post #520 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:34 am

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In post 495, Rhaegar wrote:
In post 478, Rhaegar wrote:If we don't lynch Snarky, what do we do if we run someone else up to l-1 and they claim n1 cop?

I'd like to get some answers to this question.


Nothing. We move on, as there COULD be 2 N1 Cops. Only on D2 can we evaluate them better.

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Post Post #521 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:38 am

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In post 498, pistachi0n wrote:We have them investigate each other and lynch someone else.


:lol: Are you serious??? I mean, we waste two cope investigations on eachother? So that they both confirm eachother as VTs from then on?

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Post Post #522 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:46 am

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In post 512, pisskop wrote:How about scum win rates jump by almost 10% when there are an even number of players?

NL makes scum more than 10% more likely to win from a numbers standpoint


Stats are only valid if they're done on RANDOM specimens. If I was scum and I knew you'd be putting it that way I'd always make sure we ARE even so as to get you to lynch someone. The one time you no lynch (or fail to lynch) someone I will not kill on the following night to keep the number even. How's that??

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Post Post #523 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:47 am

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???

Stats are stats, this isnt a stat, this is a mathmatical formula
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Post Post #524 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:20 pm

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In post 521, Almost50 wrote:
In post 498, pistachi0n wrote:We have them investigate each other and lynch someone else.


:lol: Are you serious??? I mean, we waste two cope investigations on eachother? So that they both confirm eachother as VTs from then on?


No, it would be likely one is town and one is scum. If one confirms a positive scum result on the other, we lynch them. If they're wrong, we know who to lynch the next day.

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