The Third Fortnight (Game Over [Bonus Round])

[Quilford]

also, quilford. i require your expert experience on davsto as well. what do you make of him?

He also hasn't done any scumhunting of note—like, nothing. So you can guess he's probably not in my townreads. Once I start hearing from him what he thinks about specific players and why, I'll have more complex things to say.

[Gorkington]

will you be trying to work with town or are you just kind of intending on figuring stuff out on your own?
also, i feel like the activity of scum depends on the personalities of those who rolled scum more than anything, no?

p-edit: but he has 28 posts. does the lack of vibes youre getting from that many posts not ring alarms for you?

[Quilford]

p-edit: but he has 28 posts. does the lack of vibes youre getting from that many posts not ring alarms for you?

It does, yes. Just, alarm clock alarms, that you can kind of hit snooze on and go back to bed, and not fire alarm alarms, where ignoring them is a really bad idea. If that makes sense. Metaphors!

[T-Bone]

I'm here we're gonna do this.

I have a sample size of two, and both scum teams pretty much employed the same strategy. Marquis <3 was just far superior to Kuribo in that regard. Sure overall if this game was played a hundred times I bet scum would regress to the mean and scumplay would be based on who rolled it. I just think there is just the natural tendency to do what have been done before because it is intuitive.

My vote on Kuroi last time I posted wasn't a joke, it was with that in mind. No I didn't explain, but that's cause I wanted a wagon there. His early posting rang true with the idea that he's setting himself up to flee. If Kuroi is scum and we lynch someone else he's the obvious flee candidate.

[KuroiXHF]

God damn it, T-Bone. I thought you said you were the best at this game.

[Gorkington]

kuroi can you stop shitposting? like. i get it. youre indignant about being pushed. but there are plenty of productive things to be pushing/talking about and youre doing none of them. and im a snarky bitch. rarara.

[Marquis]

ok i guess you can be town for now tee tee.

update:

tbone
kuroi
gork
kats
zmuff
snarky
johnny
anti

and on the other end

quil
dav
bins???? maybe probably

[Marquis]

i still don't know where to vote tho

[Quilford]

Marquis I am extremely distressed that somehow I am a scumread of yours :/

[Quilford]

Then again I don't think we have been in many games together so maybe it's understandable

[Quilford]

How do you have a townread on Kats btw?

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

I'm confused. Has "attempting to look pro-town" become a buzzword since I've been away?

[Antihero]

His early posting rang true with the idea that he's setting himself up to flee.

??????

[Gorkington]

do you think that scum in this setup doesnt have an extreme incentive to try harder than usual to appear town on D1?

[KuroiXHF]

kuroi can you stop shitposting? like. i get it. youre indignant about being pushed. but there are plenty of productive things to be pushing/talking about and youre doing none of them. and im a snarky bitch. rarara.

I don't even think you know what you're writing anymore. I'm laughing about T-Bone's post because it's ridiculous. He wants me to be bandwagonned so he

didn't

explain his posts. How the hell did you want me to respond to that?

And as far as being pushed? I don't feel pushed.

But I get it. You didn't like what I write. I said that I have a read coming soon. I don't have the ability to read through everything at this present moment, but my posts aren't shit as you believe it to be - except, maybe the elevator post. But it was equally as shitty as what it was a reply to... Oh, that was your post.

[Gorkington]

basically everything youve done the last 3-4 pages has been shit.
and your play before it has been generalizing an entire wagon and whining about things that arent really that big of a deal to an extent thats borderline ridiculous.

by all means.
act like youre playing well.
but youre not.

[Quilford]

I'm confused. Has "attempting to look pro-town" become a buzzword since I've been away?

I'm confused. Has anyone asserted that it has?

[Quilford]

Look CES, the fact that I didn't use the word 'buzzword' isn't the point anyway. All I want you to do is back up the points you made about T-Bone with links to specific posts of his that you think prove it. You did it perfectly well in the link below so I know you're capable of it as town.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p6739518

I'm going to bed now because it's past two but I really do hope that when I get up I'll see some actual hard evidence.

[Davsto]

But yeah, Bulge is right

One of the scum has a flee. Leaving someone at L-1 will not end well. L-2 is fine, fear L-1 until we come to a final conclusion.

what is your read on bulge.

Kinda questioning

Got wagoned, little to no reaction even when (they thought) they had reached L-1

etc etc

what does this even mean and how does this lead to you voting bulge?

It means that I am questioning Bulge's alignment.

It didn't lead directly to me voting Bulge - it was part of voting Bulge, for the reaction and all. Oh, the aforementioned shiggles too.

a side note: i don't think the threat of l-1 is that big a deal... yeah scum have a flee but when they have almost no idea where the majority of town is going to vote, that seems somewhat suicidal

Two scum, L-1 on town, one scum can quickhammer and then flee the fuck out of there. It leaves it open for a scum to quickhammer and then be unable to be guessed. It's no riskier to scum than any town player being lynched.

Did anyone on the Bulge wagon act like it wasn't crap

Because I know I joined it because it was pretty explicitly a silly wagon for giggles and reactions

And I'm fine with giggles and all, but I don't think anyone cared enough to see how close Bulge was to being lynched. Like holy shit.

I did. Bulge only ever got to L-2. Don't worry, I'm not stupid.

Stupid isn't the word I'd use. Reckless is.

Plus, two votes in a game this size isn't a lot. It's easy to snipe that hammer on.

And you honestly think in this game, where it takes just one accusation for a scum player to lose, they'd collaborate with their partner to snipe an L-2? Also, not reckless. Jeez, I always count how many votes are on a player before voting if it's a high amount.

...obviously, if we need to learn about everyone else here so we know who is scum, we need time. Bulge was almost lynched within the first real-life day. How the hell do none of you see an issue with this?

He was NOT "nearly lynched"

"Nearly lynched" implies that someone could easily have been lynched if things had gone differently - Bulge was in very little risk of being lynched by anyone but a pure idiot since I made damn sure he only got to L-2 and he was unvoted to L-3 extremely soon after that.

both the Davsto and the Bulgewagon were fundamentally pro-town things.

Having trouble parsing this - what about myself is pro-town, any wagon on me or my vote on Bulge?

Antihero
Bins
Cogito Ergo Sum
Davsto
Gorkington
hiplop
JohnnyFarrar
Katsuki
KuroiXHF
Marquis
Quilford
SnarkySnowman
T-Bone
The Bulge
xRECKONERx
zMuffinMan

Okay this is probably a stupid question but which end is which, presuming this is a readslist? If only because

VOTE: KuroiXHF

ugh blugh i need people to post more

Is like halfway through the list so what hel- oh that's just alphabetical order LETS MOVE ON

dav im gonna need you to play my game of top 3 people you wouldnt shoot.

In no particular order, Gork, Kuroi, Marquis

Davsto - Who?

;-;

kuroi. if im understanding you correctly. you think scum built the wagon on bulge for the purpose of hopefully having someone quick hammer and end the day? and not because they want to appear like theyre trying to build wagons like a goody good town person?

Obviously, it's not all scum. Scum's numbers are incredibly overwhelmed by town's numbers and can only hide behind anonymity. Obviously, scum couldn't have amassed that huge wagon without help from town. Even if many of these people are town, they're engaging in scummy behavior. Some of these town don't know better.

But it

wasn't

scummy. Large wagons like that, presuming they won't get lynched, is incredibly pro-town, because some people are super good at getting reads from reactions from stuff like that! That's why it happened.

Yes. I could shit myself and suck some titties, but that would be irrelevant to the game, much like your reply.

idk man 'shit' and 'sucky' are adjectives that seem pretty relevant to your play atm

We don't need useless personal arguments in a game with only 14 days in it thank you very much, cut this shit out.

[KuroiXHF]

basically everything youve done the last 3-4 pages has been shit.
and your play before it has been generalizing an entire wagon and whining about things that arent really that big of a deal to an extent thats borderline ridiculous.

by all means.
act like youre playing well.
but youre not.

That is fundamentally untrue, especially when I've already said nothing about the entire wagon, other than it's a bad wagon. That said nothing to all of its members, so you're wrong.
You disagree with my wagon. That's all. You disagreeing does not make my opinions shit. It means that you disagree.
Now zip it, please.

[Antihero]

update:

tbone
kuroi
gork
kats
zmuff
snarky
johnny
anti

'kay, i'm (mostly) there

could i ask about: tbone, kats, and muffin.

[Antihero]

actually you can do tbone or not. still, kats and muffin i'm curious about.

[KuroiXHF]

Davsto, considering I've seen wagons like this go from nothing to a full lynch within a couple hours, it's anti-town. Like I said, anti-town is pro-scum because only scum benefit from it. Bulge divulged nothing. This doesn't mean that Bulge isn't scum, but it doesn't mean he's town either. Like I said, it was a reckless bandwagon, and I'm only considering reckless those who engaged in the bandwagon because they thought it would do something useful - namely, you.

And yes, nearly lynched. They needed only two people. In a game with a larger number, two isn't a lot.

[Davsto]

You are managing to be wrong, idiotic, and stubborn all at once.

What an achievement.

[T-Bone]

You still don't understand how a mislynch in this set-up has to work.