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Post Post #15 (isolation #0) » Fri Mar 18, 2016 5:20 pm

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{Almost50}
{Snarky}
{Kelbris, knightmare}
{Ranger}

VOTE: Ranger
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Post Post #24 (isolation #1) » Fri Mar 18, 2016 11:49 pm

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{Ranger, Almost50, Snarky}
{Kop}
{Kelbris, Knightmare}

Knightmare & Ranger are most likely not the same alignment from that discussion, unless they orchestrated that little discussion which I doubt considering both factions do not have a daychat.

I liked Ranger's response in #21 and I disliked Knightmare's response to Ranger's vote. There was an aggressiveness in his posts that i'm not quite sure what to think of.
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Post Post #25 (isolation #2) » Fri Mar 18, 2016 11:55 pm

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Almost is being unnervingly quiet. Snarky has a recurring meta of lurking, which is slightly annoying but not alignment indicative. KainTepas is annoying as both alignments, hard to differentiate him as town or scum. Not played with half of these players so I have no idea of their capabilities.
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Post Post #29 (isolation #3) » Sat Mar 19, 2016 3:41 am

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In post 28, knightmare wrote:
In post 24, Golden Robster wrote:I liked Ranger's response in #21 and I disliked Knightmare's response to Ranger's vote. There was an aggressiveness in his posts that i'm not quite sure what to think of.


I tend to be an aggressive player in any alignment. Also, Ranger didn't vote me.

Question: why is A50 in your top bracket when your next post after this is voicing concern about his quietness? I'm a general note I think it's too early for that sort of shade throwing - the game just started less than 24h ago.


The sooner the better. What's the point of RVS unless we make use of it?

Am I not allowed to voice concerns about the players I'm trying to discern?
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Post Post #32 (isolation #4) » Sat Mar 19, 2016 3:51 am

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That is my null category.
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Post Post #37 (isolation #5) » Sat Mar 19, 2016 4:02 am

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In post 34, knightmare wrote:Oh. I'm confused as to how your bracket is structured then so if you could explain I would appreciate that. I'm used to top reads being listed on top and gradually working down to scum reads.

In post 15, Golden Robster wrote:{Almost50}
{Snarky}
{Kelbris, knightmare}
{Ranger}


In post 24, Golden Robster wrote:{Ranger, Almost50, Snarky}
{Kop}
{Kelbris, Knightmare}


What happened between these posts to change these people's position?


Ranger had a good post. Kop entered the fray. Your aggressive rebuke to Ranger.
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Post Post #38 (isolation #6) » Sat Mar 19, 2016 4:02 am

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Grape's post was bad but your initial reaction is terribad.

Thoughts from others?
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Post Post #40 (isolation #7) » Sat Mar 19, 2016 4:18 am

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A. Calling him/her scum.
B. Voting them.

You didn't explain why Grapes was scum; instead, you jumped the gun and tried to discredit his push.

Let me ask. Why is Grapes scum?
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Post Post #56 (isolation #8) » Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:41 am

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{Grapes}
{Ranger, Snarky}
{Kop, Kelbris}
{Shotty}
{Almost}
{Knightmare}
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Post Post #58 (isolation #9) » Sat Mar 19, 2016 9:06 am

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UNVOTE:

VOTE: Knightmare

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Post Post #73 (isolation #10) » Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:58 am

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In post 71, kelbris wrote:Here is what I think so far.
the wagon on Knightmare gained momentum way too fast for my liking, I believe it is POSSIBLE (not entirely likely, just plausible) that most of the people on said wagon were either mafia or ww trying to get an easy lynch so they can get killing. I especially dislike drmyshottyizsik's L-1 vote, had a mafia/ww seen it, they might have just hammered. Seems a bit too opportunistic/eager to get a claim that can be either countered (to reveal the seer) or to have someone claim VT which would make them an easy target for the "it is too hard to prove" crowd, as I have seen in previous games where I myself claimed VT.

VOTE: drmyshottyizsik


What the fuck is this. Why would scum derphammer knightmare? Do you really think they'd risk it and get instalynched tomorrow?
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Post Post #82 (isolation #11) » Sun Mar 20, 2016 12:06 am

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Hagrid if I had a gun to your head and told you to kill two people, who would you kill and why?
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Post Post #90 (isolation #12) » Sun Mar 20, 2016 4:04 am

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In post 86, Not_Mafia wrote:I'm scumreading the entire shotty wagon


You are my hero.

Ranger, just clarification, why is Kop town again?
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Post Post #120 (isolation #13) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:48 am

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{Grapes}
{Ranger, Snarky}
{Kop, Kelbris, Kain, Hasta}
{Swag}
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{Knightmare}
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Post Post #121 (isolation #14) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:49 am

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In post 119, Almost50 wrote:What about Katsuki?? HE SEEMS to HAVE the SAME AVATAR TOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Why are you ignoring the content in front of you? RVS abruptly ended when the wagon hit L-1.

Thoughts? Reads?
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Post Post #122 (isolation #15) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:50 am

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In post 113, Reubus Swagrid wrote:
In post 82, Golden Robster wrote:Hagrid if I had a gun to your head and told you to kill two people, who would you kill and why?


Do the people have to be alive today?


Who would you shoot right now if you had a gun?
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Post Post #186 (isolation #16) » Thu Mar 24, 2016 5:35 am

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Kelbris, talk to me

Whose scum?
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Post Post #187 (isolation #17) » Thu Mar 24, 2016 5:35 am

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In post 185, hasta_la_pasta wrote:Kind of seems like you're rushing it Snowman.
Can you gather/reframe your thoughts on Almost?


Hey Hasta,

Strongest town read currently?
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Post Post #200 (isolation #18) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:15 pm

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{Grapes}
{Ranger, Snarky, Shotty}
{N_M, Kop}
{Kain, Hasta}
{Hagrid}
{Kelbris}
{Almost, Knightmare}
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Post Post #201 (isolation #19) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:17 pm

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I'm feeling better about shotty and Kop.
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Post Post #202 (isolation #20) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:18 pm

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In post 192, kelbris wrote:I don't know, I am curious as to why Ranger immediately put me on the bottom of his reads list and is so sure that I am WW but will not provide any proof to back it up. He has vote-camped on me since the beginning of the game, his claimed in post #21 that he made his reads based on what I had posted, 1 of my 2 posts up until that point had been a simple "btw, if I don't post much it is because I am quite busy during the day because I live in the AEST time zone" and the other was an RVS vote, he is at the bottom of my readslist which is as follows:

<Almost50> (strong town)
<kaintepes> (slight town)
<Not_Mafia> (slight scum)
<ranger,> (strong scum)
everyone else is null at the moment.

I suspect N_M is not town because he seems a bit too eager to target myself and Almost, simply because we hopped on the dr wagon, yet he seems to ignore Kop for some reason despite the fact that Kop was also on said wagon. He is not AS strong a scumread as ranger, but he is still a scumread in my book. Everyone else is null atm.
VOTE: ranger


Kelbris, what part of Almost and his play has been town?

And Kain as well?
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Post Post #204 (isolation #21) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:27 pm

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In post 203, Not_Mafia wrote:People seem to not realise I replaced Knightmare


:fp:

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Post Post #205 (isolation #22) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:28 pm

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{Grapes}
{Ranger, Snarky, Shotty}
{Kop}
{Kain, Hasta}
{Hagrid, N_M}
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Post Post #214 (isolation #23) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 11:56 pm

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In post 207, grapes wrote:Golden, what have you seen from NM to offset your knightmare read to that degree?


#88 was spot on
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Post Post #231 (isolation #24) » Sun Mar 27, 2016 6:06 am

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VOTE: Almost
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Post Post #232 (isolation #25) » Sun Mar 27, 2016 6:08 am

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In post 218, Almost50 wrote:Honestly; I very much like Mario's entrance to the game.

@KT: You're starting to annoy me, and you know what happens next. Right? Either provide a case on me or go do something useful. Distracting the town will only result in me tunneling you (which I'm trying to convince myself not to bc I tend to scum read you everytime we meet)


What's good about Mario's entrance? Are you scumreading Shotty/Knightmare as well?

This post feels forced; where is the town motivation?
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Post Post #233 (isolation #26) » Sun Mar 27, 2016 6:09 am

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@Snarky

What do you think about N_M & MM?
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Post Post #256 (isolation #27) » Mon Mar 28, 2016 4:13 am

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prodge
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Post Post #260 (isolation #28) » Mon Mar 28, 2016 4:36 am

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this game feels stale

we need something to liven it up
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Post Post #261 (isolation #29) » Mon Mar 28, 2016 4:36 am

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In post 259, SnarkySnowman wrote:porridge


exactly

we need some goddam porridge
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Post Post #293 (isolation #30) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 7:37 am

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VOTE: Kelbris

k i can do this
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Post Post #320 (isolation #31) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:07 am

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O.o

also happy birthday n_m
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Post Post #339 (isolation #32) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 1:34 am

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In post 312, Kop wrote:VOTE: kelbris


Kop, why did you jump on the same wagon as Almost50.

You called him out earlier for going after the low hanging fruit, and then voted him in #277.

And before that, you called Mario's entrance pretty shoddy after jumping on the snotty wagon.

Don't get your reasoning; explain.
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Post Post #340 (isolation #33) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 1:42 am

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VOTE: Kop
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Post Post #353 (isolation #34) » Mon Apr 04, 2016 10:36 pm

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In post 344, SnarkySnowman wrote:I'm gonna re-read and post stuff later today. I didn't like how quickly the kelbris wagon came to a hammer.


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Post Post #365 (isolation #35) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:39 am

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Yep, I've been told that by boonskiies
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Post Post #366 (isolation #36) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:42 am

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Don't like the way Kop jumped on the Kelbris wagon but you also jumped on so. I'm re-evaluating my reads here but I have you as semi-scum. Who do you think is scummy, post-flip, ignoring me?
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Post Post #367 (isolation #37) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:44 am

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So the Kelbris wagon was pretty bad. Looking it over, the guy didn't seem very scum to me. Anti town through absence, a bit, but nothing too incriminating in his iso. The last 4 votes on him were done in rapid succession from: Almost50, MarioManiac4, Kop, and Not_Mafia so this is where my attention is right now. Going to be reading through these ISO's.


I'm reading Mario as town.
Almost is semi-scum but your play at the start of NY was also quite scummy.
Kop is probably scum.
N_M doesn't strike me as scum.
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Post Post #368 (isolation #38) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:45 am

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Actually wait, I'll come back to N_M in a bit.
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Post Post #392 (isolation #39) » Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:00 am

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In post 86, Not_Mafia wrote:I'm scumreading the entire shotty wagon

Has Kop, Almost and Kelbris as scum here.
This post stucks, kelbris knows more than to trot out the standard, omg L-1 bad quickhammers rah rah rah
Almost50 is trying way too hard, his town games don't have nearly that density of smilies and his votes so far have all been pretty weak
Don't like the jump Kop makes from 70 to 75, goes from voting shotty saying he was seriously trying to get a role claim, which wasn't a reasonable expectation to understanding that there was no real risk of a quickhammer

I didn't like Kop's jump on the Almost wagon but yes, I think Kop might be scum here. Almost is trying too hard? From what I see, he was taking the game humorously and not trying hard at the start with the kain tepas jokes.

Almost50: Not enough votes
Kelbris: Not enough votes
Everyone else: too many votes

Doesn't list Kop on here. Something changed in his read of Kop from #86 to #230.

^ Worst vote I've seen in a long time

Almost/Shotty/Kelbris/?/?

Thinks Shotty is scum, after saying a while back, Shotty's wagon was filled with scum. Talk to me about this.

Anyways, this is me coming back to N_M. Anybody up for a Kop wagon currently?
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Post Post #393 (isolation #40) » Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:09 am

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{Grapes, SS}
{Shotty, MM, N_M}
{hasta_la_pasta, Dwlee}
{Almost50}
{Kop}
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Post Post #394 (isolation #41) » Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:12 am

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In post 344, SnarkySnowman wrote:I'm gonna re-read and post stuff later today. I didn't like how quickly the kelbris wagon came to a hammer.


Still waiting on this. Don't make me re-think my reads.
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Post Post #425 (isolation #42) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 1:22 am

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In post 407, drmyshottyizsik wrote:
In post 406, Dwlee99 wrote:Almost is town. GR is probz town. Likin mario.
Debating a shotty or not mafia vote atm. I'mma go with shotty cause mario is on it:
VOTE: Shotty

But nm is so much better


Don't get why N_M is scummy. Talk me through why.
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Post Post #426 (isolation #43) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 1:23 am

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In post 394, Golden Robster wrote:
In post 344, SnarkySnowman wrote:I'm gonna re-read and post stuff later today. I didn't like how quickly the kelbris wagon came to a hammer.


Still waiting on this. Don't make me re-think my reads.


Still waiting.
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Post Post #427 (isolation #44) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 1:25 am

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Mario, what do you think about others apart from Shotty?
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Post Post #451 (isolation #45) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:05 am

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Dwlee99 = Town
Kop = WW
Not_Mafia = Not mafia (Grapes pushed on N_M)
SnarkySnowman = Possible town/WW
Almost50 = No idea
hasta_la_pasta = Mafia/Town
MarioManiac4 = Mafia/Town

My thought process: Mafia are leading while WW are sitting back.

VOTE: Kop
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Post Post #452 (isolation #46) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:06 am

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Dwlee give me some reads. I want to know where you stand.
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Post Post #453 (isolation #47) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:08 am

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In post 427, Golden Robster wrote:Mario, what do you think about others apart from Shotty?
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Post Post #454 (isolation #48) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:08 am

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In post 426, Golden Robster wrote:
In post 394, Golden Robster wrote:
In post 344, SnarkySnowman wrote:I'm gonna re-read and post stuff later today. I didn't like how quickly the kelbris wagon came to a hammer.


Still waiting on this. Don't make me re-think my reads.


Still waiting.
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Post Post #455 (isolation #49) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:17 am

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Grapes was never on the Almost wagon.
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Post Post #459 (isolation #50) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:57 am

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In post 456, Dwlee99 wrote:explain how you're determining who is werewolf and who is mafia?
Then I'll spit reads


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Post Post #460 (isolation #51) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:57 am

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Educated guesses
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Post Post #461 (isolation #52) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:58 am

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In post 458, Almost50 wrote:@GRob:

I beg to differ on Kop. I think he is grapes scum buddy. Mafia, in other words. But hey, it doesn't matter to me. We lynch scum regardless of which faction they belong to. They can sort things between them.

On another note: Would you care to tell me what makes Mario a suspect of yours? I can certainly see hasta and/or N_M flipping scum of one faction or another (I have yet to analyze VCs), but I'm not sure where the scum read on Mario comes from.


Grapes didn't touch on Mario; same with Kop tbh.
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Post Post #464 (isolation #53) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 7:08 am

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In post 462, MarioManiac4 wrote:
In post 453, Golden Robster wrote:
In post 427, Golden Robster wrote:Mario, what do you think about others apart from Shotty?

I really don't like "I TOLD YOU SO" mentality.

Right now, we have 4 town and 4 scum. We can't reach a lynch without scum on it, so we need to start thinking about that.


No, I want to hear you out. What are your general reads right now?
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Post Post #505 (isolation #54) » Sat Apr 16, 2016 9:22 am

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Post Post #506 (isolation #55) » Sat Apr 16, 2016 9:36 am

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I'll address some of the points you seem to hold against me.

The first is:

1. You seem to have some reason to think I'm universally town read, which is not the case. I am not in a soft town spot right now. The only person that seems to townread me is Dwlee.
2. Nobody voting me does not make me scum. Remember how Grapes voted me, after saying how he disliked #24. He didn't pursue it but yes, I could see that for an argument against me.
3. My play is inherently scummy, mainly to what I think is a mixture of me asking too many formal questions and not following up on them. My playstyle revolves around finding contradictions, general holes in arguments and flawed reasoning. If I'm lacking reads on somebody I'll ask them. If they ignore it, I'll ask them again. That is my way of playing.
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Post Post #507 (isolation #56) » Sat Apr 16, 2016 9:39 am

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His posts this game have been a majority of reads lists and fluffy posts.


Expand on this. Do you think I'm not following up on questions? Because to me, it seems like most of the questions I've been asking have been completely ignored or swept aside. Point out some fluffy posts.
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Post Post #508 (isolation #57) » Sat Apr 16, 2016 9:45 am

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All in all, I agree with your Almost read for now, while we're on the same wagon together. I'd say Mario doesn't act like how I perceive scum to act. Too straightforward and aggressive.

I disagree with the N_M placement. After Grapes pushed on him, he's leaning town for me. Why is he null? Dwlee, is dwlee; I like what I see so far. He has listed me, mario and almost as town which I agree with.

Hasta feels like a generic robot asking questions. Yes, I can see why he has a wagon on him right now. SS was leaning town for meta reasoning which now I see as dumb, so he's back to null. Talk to me about why he's leaning scum?

And last but not least, Golden Lobster, the lobster. Look at my avatar and you can decide whether you're right or wrong :wink:
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Post Post #512 (isolation #58) » Sat Apr 16, 2016 10:01 am

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No one questions why you only make vote lists. No one questions why you ask open ended questions. No one wonders why you do not share your opinion other then open ended, this person is kind of scummy. Great, why?


The game was lacking in liveliness before, mainly due to a lack of content, which seems to be the problem here. All we have are votes, people calling people scum, and blank reads list. If you provide a reads list, you need to give reasoning for it sooner or later. Yes, that includes me.

Open ended questions are there so they can expand on what they're saying. Closed questions are worse? I don't see why open-ended questions are bad. I think you seem to be confusing generic scum "look at me, I'm doing stuff" questions with "Hey I need your reads ASAP" questions.

Opinions are opinions. They are supposed to be contested.
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Post Post #514 (isolation #59) » Sat Apr 16, 2016 10:06 am

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Fluffy posts: post 82, post 201, post 260,

Busy posts that go no where: post 38, post 186, post 233, post 425, post 427

#82 was answered sarcastically and Swagrid replaced out.
#201 was brief.
#260 - As I said in my other post, the game was lacking in content.

#38 - It was bad. Defensive OMGUS on page 2 was an overreaction.
#186 - I wanted to get his reads.
#233 - I wanted to get SS to talk more, rather than lurk.
#425 - Did not get why N_M was scummy. I gave a summary of N_M and it didn't feel scum-motivated.
#427 - Mario ignored that question
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Post Post #515 (isolation #60) » Sat Apr 16, 2016 10:08 am

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In post 511, Dwlee99 wrote:i'm sad that mario/rob/almost and suzune can't all be town.


So am I :(
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Post Post #517 (isolation #61) » Sat Apr 16, 2016 10:13 am

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Indeed, I care for your opinion to some degree, but I still think you replaced into a scum slot.

p-edit: That's fine; if our opinion is contested then so be it. That is part of the reason why I'm voting you right now.
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Post Post #518 (isolation #62) » Sat Apr 16, 2016 10:14 am

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Besides, who doesn't love associations that we can use later on :lol:
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Post Post #520 (isolation #63) » Sat Apr 16, 2016 10:30 am

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Our opinions*
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Post Post #658 (isolation #64) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:10 am

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Post Post #659 (isolation #65) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:12 am

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In post 588, Dwlee99 wrote:okay so no lynch isnt correct play as I will just get night killed so no thanks. Nm and ss is too easy, I feel.
I think out of my town reads:
Almost
Mario
Rob.
rob is the most likely scum. I dont think all of my town reads are right but I dont think more than one is wrong. So.I want to lynch out of
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Post Post #660 (isolation #66) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:15 am

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In post 654, SnarkySnowman wrote:By the way, it probably shows I've been online because I've had the tab open all day, on my computer which has been on all day. I wasn't actually here to read things <_<

In post 655, Not_Mafia wrote:No, you were, you posted elsewhere


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Post Post #663 (isolation #67) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:20 am

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Long post incoming
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Post Post #664 (isolation #68) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:32 am

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{Anybody + Snarky} -> Top choice -> N_M < Almost <= Mario < Dwlee
{Almost, Mario} -> Top choice -> Mario first
{Dwlee, N_M} -> Possible
{Mario, Almost} -> Possible
{Mario, Dwlee} -> Nope
{N_M, Almost} -> Nope
{Almost, Dwlee] -> Nope
{Mario, N_M} -> Nope
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Post Post #666 (isolation #69) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 10:00 am

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I was going to give a summary of my reasoning for each person but then I realised, if you have a problem with what I'm saying, go ask me about it.

For now: VOTE: SS
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Post Post #668 (isolation #70) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 10:17 am

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{Almost, Mario} -> Top choice -> Mario first This isn't possible.


How is it not possible? They strongly townread each other for the majority of the game without much reasoning. The only substance I got when I questioned Almost about his entrance was #237 where he stated that he liked that they were on the Shotty wagon together.

{Dwlee, N_M} -> Possible Not possible


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{Mario, N_M} -> Nope Why is this nope?


You think their latest discussion has been an orchestrated charade? Point out parts where you feel it's forced and come back to me.
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Post Post #669 (isolation #71) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 10:18 am

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Also, I'm phone posting atm, I'll be on a computer later tomorrow.
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Post Post #671 (isolation #72) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 10:30 am

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:lol:

Don't ever change Dwlee.
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Post Post #672 (isolation #73) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 10:30 am

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I will be here tomorrow with a full argument. For now, I need to sleep.
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Post Post #682 (isolation #74) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 11:24 am

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what the fucking fuck
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Post Post #683 (isolation #75) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 11:24 am

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did we just lose
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Post Post #686 (isolation #76) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 11:26 am

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:facepalm:
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Post Post #687 (isolation #77) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 11:28 am

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yeah i was completely wrong this game, meh

didn't think it would be almost + n_m
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Post Post #702 (isolation #78) » Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:23 pm

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VOTE: No Lynch
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Post Post #714 (isolation #79) » Wed Apr 27, 2016 7:36 pm

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Been busy. Will post later.
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Post Post #715 (isolation #80) » Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:26 am

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Sorry, I can't get on a computer today but I will be on tomorrow, guaranteed.
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Post Post #716 (isolation #81) » Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:42 am

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Also Almost is town here; check Snarky ISO and see his posts about Almost.

Going to find scum between Mario/N_M tomorrow.
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Post Post #717 (isolation #82) » Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:43 am

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In post 64, SnarkySnowman wrote:
In post 62, Almost50 wrote:
In post 54, SnarkySnowman wrote:scumlean on Knightmare, slight townlean on Grapes and Ranger. Null everywhere else.


I liked the idea of myself being scum partners with Ranger better. :P

VOTE: Almost50

I feel like you're trying to bait me into your wifom.

In post 139, SnarkySnowman wrote:
In post 137, Almost50 wrote:
In post 136, Not_Mafia wrote:It's time for kelbris and almost50 to die


I kind of agree on almost50. He's so scummy. Not sure about kelbris though, but let's lynch almost. :P

This definitely needs rope.

In post 183, SnarkySnowman wrote:Let's just lynch Almost already.

In post 376, SnarkySnowman wrote:VOTE: Almost

Honestly it's hard to get a read on anyone at the moment with nobody posting. I think grapes is probs town, and like I said I got bad vibes earlier from the almost/n_m thing.

People please post more

In post 473, SnarkySnowman wrote:More bad vibes from Almost. I'm gonna re-read that ISO and park my vote here for now. VOTE: Almost50
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Post Post #719 (isolation #83) » Thu Apr 28, 2016 6:34 am

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Post Post #720 (isolation #84) » Thu Apr 28, 2016 6:36 am

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We all sent a message for the night to be accerelated so I don't see how your inactivity argument makes logical sense.
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Post Post #722 (isolation #85) » Thu Apr 28, 2016 6:51 am

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@Mod Can you confirm that I sent a message for the night to be accelerated?
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Post Post #731 (isolation #86) » Fri Apr 29, 2016 3:20 am

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Let's wait to hear what Almost thinks
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Post Post #737 (isolation #87) » Fri Apr 29, 2016 8:41 am

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Going to go look over ISO's so bear with me.

I'm going to start with Snarky and work my way through. Basically, I want to narrow down the options, although I'm pretty sure Almost is town here, I want to make sure I'm correct.
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Post Post #738 (isolation #88) » Fri Apr 29, 2016 8:42 am

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Almost, talk to me about why N_M hammer makes you think he's clear?
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Post Post #739 (isolation #89) » Fri Apr 29, 2016 9:02 am

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Snarky ISO


Votes: Me , Knightmare (town), 2 x Shotty (town), 2 x Almost (?),


Ranger + Almost WW team
???? Mafia team


Ranger was placed as a WW but was nightkilled. Snarky was also relatively high on Ranger reads near the beginning of the game which probably means that this was kill shouldn't be analysed into depth but before he died he had listed off N_M as scum in his reads.

Ranger reads:
{Golden Robster}
{SnarkySnowman}
{grapes}
{Kop, shotty}
{Almost50}
{hasta_la_pasta, KainTepes}
{Reubrus Swagrid}
{kelbris | Not_Mafia}


#64 - Interaction with Almost.
#152 - Again, wants Almost lynched.
#183 - States it again.
#376 - He says he has bad vibes from Almost; Snarky states that he has bad vibes from Almost AND N_M although we see no vote for N_M.
#473 - Again, more bad vibes.
#486 - Agrees with Mario that Almost is not town.


Summary


- Throughout the game, we see interaction between him and Almost, and two votes for him. He offhandedly states that N_M could be a possibility for mafia because of bad vibes and interacts with Mario during one post, agreeing that Almost is not town. From what I've seen, Snarky play can be taken for distancing, because all his votes have been on town so far. This basically gives me reassurance that Snarky play is most likely

A. Trying to get Almost lynched.
B. Distancing from buddies.
C. The lack of interaction between Snarky and Mario/N_M is something that I'll look at in their ISO's.
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Post Post #740 (isolation #90) » Fri Apr 29, 2016 9:03 am

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Also, my ISO summaries are brief because I'm going to be concise.
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Post Post #742 (isolation #91) » Fri Apr 29, 2016 9:32 am

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N_M ISO


Votes: 2 x Almost (?), Kelbris (Town), 2 x Shotty (Town), Mario (?), Pasta (Mafia), Kop (Mafia), Alone (Mafia), 2 x SS (WW),

#86 - Scumreads entire shotty wagon which includes Kop, Almost and Kelbris.
#88 - Town-reasoning that I also liked. Kop's jump onto the wagon.
#136 - Scumreads Kelbris and Almost
#184 - Agrees with Snarky on lynching Almost? I do not think scum N_M would be so transparent on this but I'll come back to this.
#380 - Starts to change his read on Almost, proceeding to vote Shotty.
#432 - #550 - Votes Shotty, Mario, Pasta, Kop and Alone. Vote-hopping without any reasoning.
#584 - Scumreads Mario (?) & Snarky (WW)
#589 - States that Mario vote was opportunistic, and agrees that Snarky is the consensus for the lynch.
#590 - States that Mario/Almost could be a possibility.
#595 - Again, states that he sees nothing town in Mario's posts.
#597 - Undermines Mario's push calling him desperate and stating that his lynch would be a MYLO mislynch tunnel.
#678 - Hammers SS; I am meh on this. On one hand, it seems that Almost would get town points for this but in reality, the possibility of scum bussing is high. Will come back to this later.
#697 - Suggests a no lynch which I like. Town-motivation in seeing the night kill which narrows down the potential suspects.
#718 - Didn't like this post, mainly because he was pushing an inactivity argument.
#727, 729, 734 - Contemplating the kill and who would make which kill. Sounds like town-reasoning.

Summary


N_M focused on Shotty, Kop and Kelbris near the start of the game, lacking interactions with Snarky apart from one post where he agreed that Almost needed to be lynched. Not sure what to make of #184, although I do think that scum wouldn't be so transparent as to agree with their partner. Again, I do think Snarky was distancing from his partner, mainly from the people he voted and their flips so far. Vote-hopping is something that again, I don't see from scum mainly because they need to act consistently. N_M's playstyle is very straightforward, aggressive without any hesitance. Overall his play has been on the town side; he correctly said that Snarky was a WW and although he could of bussed, which is a possibility, I don't see very much scum-motivation. Suggesting a NL came from town and I don't understand why he wouldn't of killed either me or Almost. His hammer was semi-meh, mainly because I despise quickhammers without intent to do so. I have a fairly null read on the hammer since I stated that the possibility of bussing is quite high. All in all, N_M's play has been towny although I previously said that he could be a top partner candidate with Snarky.
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Post Post #745 (isolation #92) » Fri Apr 29, 2016 10:01 am

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Mario ISO


Votes: 3 x Shotty (town), Kelbris (town) , Almost (?), Alone (mafia)

#211 - Enters the game by calling Shotty scum, calls posts like #216 bad. Nothing much to see here. The shotty wagon had three votes including his vote.
#239 - Asks Almost why he is townreading Kelbris, presumably because he's scumreading him.
#240 - Questions N_M on his read on Shotty.
#273 - Feels weird. He pushes for Shotty lynch without much reasoning and calls Shotty mafia? I don't understand how you made that distinction early on in the game?
#311 - Switches his vote to Kelbris.
#338 - Yes, I can see town-reasoning here. Kelbris was scummy, and although Almost was right on Grapes, town are essentially grasping at straws and Kelbris was a fine lynch.
#481 - Votes Almost after claiming that Grapes associatives are bad.
#484 - Re-affirms that he doesn't think Almost is town.
#533 - Throws shade on Dwlee townreads.
#540 - Agree with this. Consistency is something that scum strive to achieve whilst town are often unconsistent which leads to mislynches.
#552 - Yes, Alone replace in was bad.
#592 - This post gives me bad feels. He defends Snarky slightly, by attacking N_M's suggestion of a lynch on Snarky, since most of us were scumreading him.
#596 - Accuses N_M of being partners with Snarky. Feels very defensive; can't tell if town or scum.
#605 - Don't understand why you questioned Snarky was the consensus lynch when you also thought he was scum with N_M?
#713 - Agreed.
#733 - Agree that N_M hammer doesn't clear him due to bussing. We don't have any confirmed town, but we need to narrow down the possibilites of ww anyways, so I don't see why we can't do that from looking at Snarky ISO.

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Lack of interaction with Snarky although he defends him in #592, by questioning the idea of a consensus lynch on Snarky. Although he later states that he believes N_M/Snarky are scum together. I didn't like his entrance, mainly because shotty, looking back now, was mislynch bait and he seemed too aggressive in posts like #273 where he outrightly states that he is mafia. All in all, I agree that Alone replace in was very bad and I agree with some of his latter posts about N_M hammer. I really do not like #596, mainly because it felt like defensive scum rather than defensive town. We need to narrow down the possibilities of WW; yes I agree that nobody is confirmed in #733 and the lack of interaction between you and Snarky, no votes on him do not give me a good impression.
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Post Post #746 (isolation #93) » Fri Apr 29, 2016 10:01 am

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Almost, I'll answer your questions in the morning. For now, I need sleep.
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Post Post #747 (isolation #94) » Fri Apr 29, 2016 10:07 am

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Wait, why did Mario call Shotty mafia rather then scum in #273?
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Post Post #748 (isolation #95) » Fri Apr 29, 2016 10:09 am

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In post 743, Almost50 wrote:
In post 738, Golden Robster wrote:Almost, talk to me about why N_M hammer makes you think he's clear?


He hammered scum, and then Dwlee had a little conversation with him that gave me the impression N_M was a town player who liked to take risks. I did something similar elsewhere and I was town who got too anxious and really believed I was hammering scum (and I was).


Alright, I think it's 70/30 on Mario right now.
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Post Post #757 (isolation #96) » Sun May 01, 2016 7:21 pm

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Yeah I don't have much to add
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Post Post #760 (isolation #97) » Mon May 02, 2016 2:13 am

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VOTE: Mario
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Post Post #761 (isolation #98) » Mon May 02, 2016 2:13 am

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Hoping this is scum
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Post Post #763 (isolation #99) » Mon May 02, 2016 2:47 am

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^
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Post Post #769 (isolation #100) » Mon May 02, 2016 5:02 am

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gg, think town played very well this game

@Almost - Sounds like ranger is a force to be reckoned with.
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Post Post #770 (isolation #101) » Mon May 02, 2016 5:02 am

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1 more win for my town record :D :D :D
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Post Post #771 (isolation #102) » Mon May 02, 2016 5:08 am

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Post Post #776 (isolation #103) » Mon May 02, 2016 5:47 am

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Dwlee what are you saying?! I'm town :o :o :o
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Post Post #777 (isolation #104) » Mon May 02, 2016 5:50 am

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Post Post #795 (isolation #105) » Mon May 02, 2016 7:22 am

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gg

Dwlee reads were on point; too bad nobody listened to you :wink:
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Post Post #797 (isolation #106) » Mon May 02, 2016 7:23 am

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Props to snarky for the night kills though

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