Open 632 - Jungle Republic (Game Over)
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{Ranger, Almost50, Snarky}
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{Kelbris, Knightmare}
Knightmare & Ranger are most likely not the same alignment from that discussion, unless they orchestrated that little discussion which I doubt considering both factions do not have a daychat.
I liked Ranger's response in #21 and I disliked Knightmare's response to Ranger's vote. There was an aggressiveness in his posts that i'm not quite sure what to think of.-
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In post 28, knightmare wrote:In post 24, Golden Robster wrote:I liked Ranger's response in #21 and I disliked Knightmare's response to Ranger's vote. There was an aggressiveness in his posts that i'm not quite sure what to think of.
I tend to be an aggressive player in any alignment. Also, Ranger didn't vote me.
Question: why is A50 in your top bracket when your next post after this is voicing concern about his quietness? I'm a general note I think it's too early for that sort of shade throwing - the game just started less than 24h ago.
The sooner the better. What's the point of RVS unless we make use of it?
Am I not allowed to voice concerns about the players I'm trying to discern?-
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In post 34, knightmare wrote:Oh. I'm confused as to how your bracket is structured then so if you could explain I would appreciate that. I'm used to top reads being listed on top and gradually working down to scum reads.
What happened between these posts to change these people's position?
Ranger had a good post. Kop entered the fray. Your aggressive rebuke to Ranger.-
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In post 71, kelbris wrote:Here is what I think so far.
the wagon on Knightmare gained momentum way too fast for my liking, I believe it is POSSIBLE (not entirely likely, just plausible) that most of the people on said wagon were either mafia or ww trying to get an easy lynch so they can get killing. I especially dislike drmyshottyizsik's L-1 vote, had a mafia/ww seen it, they might have just hammered. Seems a bit too opportunistic/eager to get a claim that can be either countered (to reveal the seer) or to have someone claim VT which would make them an easy target for the "it is too hard to prove" crowd, as I have seen in previous games where I myself claimed VT.
VOTE: drmyshottyizsik
What the fuck is this. Why would scum derphammer knightmare? Do you really think they'd risk it and get instalynched tomorrow?-
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In post 86, Not_Mafia wrote:I'm scumreading the entire shotty wagon
You are my hero.
Ranger, just clarification, why is Kop town again?-
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In post 119, Almost50 wrote:What about Katsuki?? HE SEEMS to HAVE the SAME AVATAR TOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why are you ignoring the content in front of you? RVS abruptly ended when the wagon hit L-1.
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In post 113, Reubus Swagrid wrote:In post 82, Golden Robster wrote:Hagrid if I had a gun to your head and told you to kill two people, who would you kill and why?
Do the people have to be alive today?
Who would you shoot right now if you had a gun?-
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In post 185, hasta_la_pasta wrote:Kind of seems like you're rushing it Snowman.
Can you gather/reframe your thoughts on Almost?
Hey Hasta,
Strongest town read currently?-
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In post 192, kelbris wrote:I don't know, I am curious as to why Ranger immediately put me on the bottom of his reads list and is so sure that I am WW but will not provide any proof to back it up. He has vote-camped on me since the beginning of the game, his claimed in post #21 that he made his reads based on what I had posted, 1 of my 2 posts up until that point had been a simple "btw, if I don't post much it is because I am quite busy during the day because I live in the AEST time zone" and the other was an RVS vote, he is at the bottom of my readslist which is as follows:
<Almost50> (strong town)
<kaintepes> (slight town)
<Not_Mafia> (slight scum)
<ranger,> (strong scum)
everyone else is null at the moment.
I suspect N_M is not town because he seems a bit too eager to target myself and Almost, simply because we hopped on the dr wagon, yet he seems to ignore Kop for some reason despite the fact that Kop was also on said wagon. He is not AS strong a scumread as ranger, but he is still a scumread in my book. Everyone else is null atm.
VOTE: ranger
Kelbris, what part of Almost and his play has been town?
And Kain as well?-
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In post 207, grapes wrote:Golden, what have you seen from NM to offset your knightmare read to that degree?
#88 was spot on-
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In post 218, Almost50 wrote:Honestly; I very much like Mario's entrance to the game.
@KT: You're starting to annoy me, and you know what happens next. Right? Either provide a case on me or go do something useful. Distracting the town will only result in me tunneling you (which I'm trying to convince myself not to bc I tend to scum read you everytime we meet)
What's good about Mario's entrance? Are you scumreading Shotty/Knightmare as well?
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Kop, why did you jump on the same wagon as Almost50.
You called him out earlier for going after the low hanging fruit, and then voted him in #277.
And before that, you called Mario's entrance pretty shoddy after jumping on the snotty wagon.
Don't get your reasoning; explain.-
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In post 344, SnarkySnowman wrote:I'm gonna re-read and post stuff later today. I didn't like how quickly the kelbris wagon came to a hammer.
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So the Kelbris wagon was pretty bad. Looking it over, the guy didn't seem very scum to me. Anti town through absence, a bit, but nothing too incriminating in his iso. The last 4 votes on him were done in rapid succession from: Almost50, MarioManiac4, Kop, and Not_Mafia so this is where my attention is right now. Going to be reading through these ISO's.
I'm reading Mario as town.
Almost is semi-scum but your play at the start of NY was also quite scummy.
Kop is probably scum.
N_M doesn't strike me as scum.-
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In post 86, Not_Mafia wrote:I'm scumreading the entire shotty wagon
Has Kop, Almost and Kelbris as scum here.
This post stucks, kelbris knows more than to trot out the standard, omg L-1 bad quickhammers rah rah rah
Almost50 is trying way too hard, his town games don't have nearly that density of smilies and his votes so far have all been pretty weak
Don't like the jump Kop makes from 70 to 75, goes from voting shotty saying he was seriously trying to get a role claim, which wasn't a reasonable expectation to understanding that there was no real risk of a quickhammer
I didn't like Kop's jump on the Almost wagon but yes, I think Kop might be scum here. Almost is trying too hard? From what I see, he was taking the game humorously and not trying hard at the start with the kain tepas jokes.
Almost50: Not enough votes
Kelbris: Not enough votes
Everyone else: too many votes
Doesn't list Kop on here. Something changed in his read of Kop from #86 to #230.
^ Worst vote I've seen in a long time
Almost/Shotty/Kelbris/?/?
Thinks Shotty is scum, after saying a while back, Shotty's wagon was filled with scum. Talk to me about this.
Anyways, this is me coming back to N_M. Anybody up for a Kop wagon currently?-
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In post 344, SnarkySnowman wrote:I'm gonna re-read and post stuff later today. I didn't like how quickly the kelbris wagon came to a hammer.
Still waiting on this. Don't make me re-think my reads.-
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In post 407, drmyshottyizsik wrote:In post 406, Dwlee99 wrote:Almost is town. GR is probz town. Likin mario.
Debating a shotty or not mafia vote atm. I'mma go with shotty cause mario is on it:
VOTE: Shotty
But nm is so much better
Don't get why N_M is scummy. Talk me through why.-
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In post 394, Golden Robster wrote:In post 344, SnarkySnowman wrote:I'm gonna re-read and post stuff later today. I didn't like how quickly the kelbris wagon came to a hammer.
Still waiting on this. Don't make me re-think my reads.
Still waiting.-
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In post 427, Golden Robster wrote:Mario, what do you think about others apart from Shotty?-
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In post 426, Golden Robster wrote:In post 394, Golden Robster wrote:In post 344, SnarkySnowman wrote:I'm gonna re-read and post stuff later today. I didn't like how quickly the kelbris wagon came to a hammer.
Still waiting on this. Don't make me re-think my reads.
Still waiting.-
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In post 456, Dwlee99 wrote:explain how you're determining who is werewolf and who is mafia?
Then I'll spit reads
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In post 458, Almost50 wrote:@GRob:
I beg to differ on Kop. I think he is grapes scum buddy. Mafia, in other words. But hey, it doesn't matter to me. We lynch scum regardless of which faction they belong to. They can sort things between them.
On another note: Would you care to tell me what makes Mario a suspect of yours? I can certainly see hasta and/or N_M flipping scum of one faction or another (I have yet to analyze VCs), but I'm not sure where the scum read on Mario comes from.
Grapes didn't touch on Mario; same with Kop tbh.-
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In post 462, MarioManiac4 wrote:In post 453, Golden Robster wrote:In post 427, Golden Robster wrote:Mario, what do you think about others apart from Shotty?
I really don't like "I TOLD YOU SO" mentality.
Right now, we have 4 town and 4 scum. We can't reach a lynch without scum on it, so we need to start thinking about that.
No, I want to hear you out. What are your general reads right now?-
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I'll address some of the points you seem to hold against me.
The first is:
1. You seem to have some reason to think I'm universally town read, which is not the case. I am not in a soft town spot right now. The only person that seems to townread me is Dwlee.
2. Nobody voting me does not make me scum. Remember how Grapes voted me, after saying how he disliked #24. He didn't pursue it but yes, I could see that for an argument against me.
3. My play is inherently scummy, mainly to what I think is a mixture of me asking too many formal questions and not following up on them. My playstyle revolves around finding contradictions, general holes in arguments and flawed reasoning. If I'm lacking reads on somebody I'll ask them. If they ignore it, I'll ask them again. That is my way of playing.-
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All in all, I agree with your Almost read for now, while we're on the same wagon together. I'd say Mario doesn't act like how I perceive scum to act. Too straightforward and aggressive.
I disagree with the N_M placement. After Grapes pushed on him, he's leaning town for me. Why is he null? Dwlee, is dwlee; I like what I see so far. He has listed me, mario and almost as town which I agree with.
Hasta feels like a generic robot asking questions. Yes, I can see why he has a wagon on him right now. SS was leaning town for meta reasoning which now I see as dumb, so he's back to null. Talk to me about why he's leaning scum?
And last but not least, Golden Lobster, the lobster. Look at my avatar and you can decide whether you're right or wrong-
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No one questions why you only make vote lists. No one questions why you ask open ended questions. No one wonders why you do not share your opinion other then open ended, this person is kind of scummy. Great, why?
The game was lacking in liveliness before, mainly due to a lack of content, which seems to be the problem here. All we have are votes, people calling people scum, and blank reads list. If you provide a reads list, you need to give reasoning for it sooner or later. Yes, that includes me.
Open ended questions are there so they can expand on what they're saying. Closed questions are worse? I don't see why open-ended questions are bad. I think you seem to be confusing generic scum "look at me, I'm doing stuff" questions with "Hey I need your reads ASAP" questions.
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Fluffy posts: post 82, post 201, post 260,
Busy posts that go no where: post 38, post 186, post 233, post 425, post 427
#82 was answered sarcastically and Swagrid replaced out.
#201 was brief.
#260 - As I said in my other post, the game was lacking in content.
#38 - It was bad. Defensive OMGUS on page 2 was an overreaction.
#186 - I wanted to get his reads.
#233 - I wanted to get SS to talk more, rather than lurk.
#425 - Did not get why N_M was scummy. I gave a summary of N_M and it didn't feel scum-motivated.
#427 - Mario ignored that question