New York 195: Adventure Mafia - Game over!

[Expedience]

What alignment do you think he is?

[Expedience]

Seth is saying, if was scum and copper got him lynched, Seth would be SK, and Copper would be a mafia goon. This is because he is suggesting Copper is mafia and can't tell the difference between town / sk, or just other unlogic and trying to set up some quip

This is not the explanation Seth gave, it tells more about how you (want us to believe you) are reading the game.

What Seth said he meant is that lynching himself if he is goon or SK would be against his alignment (there is no direct mention of what he thinks of me), check for yourselves if that leap makes sense given the prior conversation, it does not to me.

He didn't give an explanation, did he?

It's not wrong to assume there is an sk in a large game, saying there is an sk in a large game does not make me scum. If there isn't one then this game is heavily in favor of us.

You could be meaning this, which I don't understand at all.

I also am suspicious of the part where he says (paraphrasing): I am not like the rest that want to lynch you just because you are copper; that sentence implies he knows my alignment and is factoring it in his view of the game-state.

Good point, I see this.

[Expedience]

And that means that if Seth is scum then it probably makes copper town, hm.

[Expedience]

Scum do not have mechanical day talk

BAM.

Titus is scum. With Ircher.

*dance*

I dont get that conclusion.

Really huh.

[Expedience]

I could've just said nothing and been able to jump on them if I wanted to. I did want to potentially vote either of them down the line. I thought it read like SvS. I still think it reads like SvS. No shit I'm going to want to vote people I think could be Scum.

Didn’t you just knock Titus in 516 as scummy for leaving her options open to jump to different lynches? Because I read this response as being exactly what you are damning Titus for.

Why do you think the early exchange is Scum versus scum? Please elaborate.

No, you misunderstand me. I don't think it's scummy to say "here are the three lynches I support". I think it's scummy to say "here are the three lynches I support, I'll be on whatever's biggest" rather than "here are the three lynches I support, and I currently prefer _____ Lynch". The former says to me that you don't have any actual scumreads, because if you did, one would naturally be the most appealing for some reason.

The whole "you're dead" thing and the stats discussion coming off each other are both pretty dumb, and the stats discussion comes from nowhere. It reads to me like they wanted to distance early D1, and after the daykill thing started to lose steam they had to come up with something else, and that spawned the stats argument. Go read the first 5 pages and tell me that Ircher/Shotty don't fit the description of two scum who decided on a hard distance gambit.

Ircher/Shotty don't fit the description of two scum who decided on a hard distance gambit

[SethYazura]

What alignment do you think he is?

Who are you talking to? If I am the one you are asking, cy is town.

He didn't give an explanation, did he?

Read post 183

You could be meaning this, which I don't understand at all

post 646

I also am suspicious of the part where he says (paraphrasing): I am not like the rest that want to lynch you just because you are copper; that sentence implies he knows my alignment and is factoring it in his view of the game-state.

Good point, I see this.

roleplaying in early D1

Vote: SethYazura

I might do a full reads list later if I feel motivated.

All that analysis, then quickly slaps a random vote on me without an explaination. Elaborate please.

"casts a spell of motivation on projectmatt"

[Expedience]

What alignment do you think he is?

Who are you talking to? If I am the one you are asking, cy is town.

Why do you think he's town, you just said that he was new and that's not a reason why someone is town? I think that's what copper was asking.

He didn't give an explanation, did he?

Read post 183

I thought that was

~the post~

to start with, whatever idk/c

[copper223]

@Seth
Pretty much what expe said, you've been seemingly avoiding this game but now that the pressure on your slot is reaching critical mass you drop a town-read on one of the other very controversial players and the motivation you give is that being new it's more likely he will be perceived as scum by the rest of us (which is fair enough) but you then go ahead and call him town, so what is it that gives him away as a newbie of the townie variety to you?

[Expedience]

The further this game goes on, the more I become suspicious of Killthestory/of the belief that he very well might be scum. I initially kind of read his aloofness as coming from a town place, but it looks like he's using it to coast. However, I'm only not super inclined to vote him primarily because him flipping would give us very little information, since his actual stated reads/interactions are generally pretty small.

I think you are scum with Killthestory because you feel the need to justify why you aren't voting him, discuss.

I'm also still not a fan of the Ircher wagon. I mean, yes, the strange numbered system he has is pretty weak, but I'm pretty positive that most scum would not be so bold as to consistently post a bunch of "scored" reads that only he can understand, and insist that it's very important. I think that a lot of you are confusing "weird and unexperienced play" to somehow be likely to be scum play. This is really silly, and I've seen no actual reason to suspect anything of Ircher. Adding on to that, I'm cynical about #491, because it seems like an easy way for Persivul to weasel into the bandwagon while not stating any reads of actual substance.

It's null because scum can also be weird.

This (your post) is a scumtell if Ircher is town and it makes it seem like he is, townreading someone for wifom because you know they're town. Same as what Seth just did

The thing about Persivul is fucking terrible and you are scum.

I'm becoming more sure that Zakk is town with practically almost every post. Same with EspeciallyTheLies. That said though, I think EspeciallyTheLie's accusation of Titus teaming Ircher is kind of weak.

Yes, because they're both town aren't they.

I initially put a lot of pressure on TehBrawlGuy, but I'm actually going to list him as a mild town read now, because he's held himself pretty well/he's come off as far more town than he did at the beginning of the game.

I also don't feel as strongly about Cytheflyguy being scum, because I'm now reading a lot of his posts as coming from confused town.

This is by far the best vote I can conceive of at the moment, though.

Vote: SethYazuka

I might do a full reads list later if I feel motivated.

I am slightly fazed by agreeing with your scumreads on Seth and Killthestory, but only slightly.

[SethYazura]

@Seth
so what is it that gives him away as a newbie of the townie variety to you?

You can easily single out newbies from an experienced and everyone can do it.
An experienced knows the concequences of posting in the same way as cytheflyguy, cy posted like that because he doesn't.

[SethYazura]

@Seth
so what is it that gives him away as a newbie of the townie variety to you?

You can easily single out newbies from an experienced and everyone can do it.
An experienced knows the concequences of posting in the same way as cytheflyguy, cy posted like that because he doesn't.

[copper223]

@Seth
I am not asking you why you can call him a newbie, I am asking you why you are calling him a

town

newbie?

I am trying not to confbias here but this reads like you knowing his alignment and justifying your read by proving a tangential point which is irrelevant for the read itself (this would likely imply we are not in a multiball), why are you even focusing so much on the newbie part, the important read is whether he is town or scum.

[SethYazura]

If anyone wants to jump on a wagon, cytheflyguy is a worser choice compared to the other wagons currently at the moment, due to cy having higher probabilities of flipping town.
If you want to parrot, Egg and EspeciallyTheLies are the best ones.

@Seth
I am not asking you why you can call him a newbie, I am asking you why you are calling him a

town

newbie?

I am trying not to confbias here but this reads like you knowing his alignment and justifying your read by proving a tangential point which is irrelevant for the read itself (this would likely imply we are not in a multiball), why are you even focusing so much on the newbie part, the important read is whether he is town or scum.

Self-Explanatory Shit
A newbtown's first posts almost always attract suspicion, a newbscum on the other hand, either tries to act like town as much as possible but fails to do so or he is inactive.

[copper223]

The whole argument which you are basing the read on, i.e. newbies getting scum read more often, relies on them

unknowingly

posting in what others would consider a scummy way, it doesn't make sense in most cases that they would be able to switch it off when they are scum otherwise they would avoid doing it as town as well.

But ok, this answer at least is not scummy.

[SethYazura]

Nah it's just that most newbscums I've met are just like that, may not apply on everybody as it's based on my experience :\.

[cytheflyguy]

the cy wagon has gotten stale of late, it's a bunch of me-toos, and a cy flip will tell us too little

So your whole "Caught scum with my epic trap" play on Cy was what exactly again?

see who jumps on, see how cy acts, see how much steam it gets, see what happens

currently dissatisfied with that prospect, and pushing another direction

what are your thoughts about that?

Eh. I'm not gonna act differently. I don't play that way xD

I just pick a tone to play the game regardless of role and for better or worse stick with it

[SirCakez]

I Am Innocent has been prodded.

[Lowell]

I'm back. And lost in the damn woods after being frustratingly MIA for four days. Give me some time to catch up again.

[SirCakez]

lost in the damn woods

[drmyshottyizsik]

lost in the damn woods

mod of the year

[SethYazura]

lost in the damn woods

mod of the year

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Underrated mod, deserves commendation.

[Killthestory]

still waiting to be townread

[Titus]

You can be my townread. Vote scum.

[Killthestory]

who's scum for you, haven't been reading since I don't care

[Titus]

Cy, TBG, Copper, Shotty

Your wagon is almost completely town (no real read on IaI). How does it make you feel?