Deadline
The amount to call is $495
Money buys PRs. The top tier in particular is sweet for scum. But note that after a PR is bought once, it's off the market. So, scum have incentive to go after 2 and 3 as well. The lowest one is pretty meh.In post 45, Something_Smart wrote:Eww. Earning money is not necessarily part of your wincon. Although I think that 42 is an awfully big leap to take.
I'm sure scum had pre-game talk, I've never seen a game where they didn't.
I wouldn't get off a lynch that I was pushing for the chance of a scum person taking my spot. That's ridiculous. If you think a person in the wagon is scum, then they should be the wagon. Terrible planIn post 24, Infinity 324 wrote:{quibixes, MoI}
{s_s, lane}
{mm, persivul}
{infinity}
I like s_s's plan, you could threaten to hammer the person if people refuse to switch.
A mislynch to verify this being completely false isn't the worst way to start out the game. However you'll change your mind on due timeIn post 42, Persivul wrote:So why did you bet all your money?In post 40, lane0168 wrote:I won't win lol
Could be scum dumping money to each other so they can buy out one of the bigger PRs early.
mod, did scum have pre-game talk? Do they have day talk?
Unless your scum buddy told you he had a strong hand.In post 57, lane0168 wrote:And even if that was my plan to give my money away, magna, chances are it goes to town.
I find it suspect that you just assumed an immediate All-In would not possibly get called. Especially given you told Pers "I'm not going to win". If anyone calls then odds are overwhelming that one person ends up with $1,000 plus in their bankroll immediately. Which if they are scum is not good for Town.In post 53, lane0168 wrote:@magna. I'm not sure I understand the question. I didn't want to consolidate money into anyone's hands but my own. I didn't expect anyone to call. I want money to get the benefits of getting money. So why am I scummy again?
This is the only option that has a hint of credibility to me. Honestly, town wouldn't give away their monies at random like that.In post 58, Persivul wrote:Unless your scum buddy told you he had a strong hand.In post 57, lane0168 wrote:And even if that was my plan to give my money away, magna, chances are it goes to town.
Given the abilities in play, Scum would LOVE to get these 1250$ abilities. Especially a Vengeful since they get to one-shot a Townie for free, meaning scum don't really lose momentum from it.MagnaofIllusion wrote:I find it suspect that you just assumed an immediate All-In would not possibly get called. Especially given you told Pers "I'm not going to win". If anyone calls then odds are overwhelming that one person ends up with $1,000 plus in their bankroll immediately. Which if they are scum is not good for Town.In post 53, lane0168 wrote:@magna. I'm not sure I understand the question. I didn't want to consolidate money into anyone's hands but my own. I didn't expect anyone to call. I want money to get the benefits of getting money. So why am I scummy again?
I could certainly see a pre-game scenario where it was decided to try to consolidate money on one scum via an All-in and scum counterclaim.
This sounds reasonable, but I think it will lead to too much argumentation. "I think X is the scummiest, he should leave." "No, Y is definitely scummier. Get her off first." etcIn post 16, Something_Smart wrote:Do you guys think it's worth it to, once we decide on who to lynch, force the scummy players on the wagon to get off and replace them with towny players in order to keep the most possible money in the hands of the town?
In post 24, Infinity 324 wrote:{quibixes, MoI}
{s_s, lane}
{mm, persivul}
{infinity}
I like s_s's plan, you could threaten to hammer the person if people refuse to switch.
5? I know how to play and have played some. I don't gamble much on it though aside from the occasional video poker game.In post 27, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Wow, so on a scale of 1-10, how good are y'all at poker?
Could you elaborate on this? Odds are this will occur naturally if I'm understanding you correctly.BBT wrote:Secondly, it may be in towns interests to play as many hands as possible to build up money.
I really like this question and thought process. I hadn't considered any money shenanigans, but it makes sense that the scum may want to pool their money together under one person if they can, especially given how everything costs more than $500.In post 42, Persivul wrote:Could be scum dumping money to each other so they can buy out one of the bigger PRs early.
Not to speak for lane, but, regardless of alignment, a player is going to have to accumulate considerable funds to afford any of the powers.In post 47, MagnaofIllusion wrote:So Lane … why did you think concentrating money in someone’s hands (which this bet was more likely than not to accomplish) is a Pro Town move?
This is anti-town.In post 56, lane0168 wrote:A mislynch to verify this being completely false isn't the worst way to start out the game. However you'll change your mind on due time
Yes, I wanted to see how people would react.In post 25, Something_Smart wrote:Pedit: infinity are you copying ranger? if so why are you at the bottom?
We still want players that are more likely to be town to get more money...In post 54, lane0168 wrote:I wouldn't get off a lynch that I was pushing for the chance of a scum person taking my spot. That's ridiculous. If you think a person in the wagon is scum, then they should be the wagon. Terrible planIn post 24, Infinity 324 wrote:{quibixes, MoI}
{s_s, lane}
{mm, persivul}
{infinity}
I like s_s's plan, you could threaten to hammer the person if people refuse to switch.
Forced line (though it's worth mentioning that town afraid of getting lynched can often come off as forced)In post 56, lane0168 wrote:A mislynch to verify this being completely false isn't the worst way to start out the game. However you'll change your mind on due timeIn post 42, Persivul wrote:So why did you bet all your money?In post 40, lane0168 wrote:I won't win lol
Could be scum dumping money to each other so they can buy out one of the bigger PRs early.
mod, did scum have pre-game talk? Do they have day talk?
This is even more forced, and doesn't add anything new to the discussion. I like this vote better.In post 61, The MM wrote:This is the only option that has a hint of credibility to me. Honestly, town wouldn't give away their monies at random like that.In post 58, Persivul wrote:Unless your scum buddy told you he had a strong hand.In post 57, lane0168 wrote:And even if that was my plan to give my money away, magna, chances are it goes to town.Given the abilities in play, Scum would LOVE to get these 1250$ abilities. Especially a Vengeful since they get to one-shot a Townie for free, meaning scum don't really lose momentum from it.MagnaofIllusion wrote:I find it suspect that you just assumed an immediate All-In would not possibly get called. Especially given you told Pers "I'm not going to win". If anyone calls then odds are overwhelming that one person ends up with $1,000 plus in their bankroll immediately. Which if they are scum is not good for Town.In post 53, lane0168 wrote:@magna. I'm not sure I understand the question. I didn't want to consolidate money into anyone's hands but my own. I didn't expect anyone to call. I want money to get the benefits of getting money. So why am I scummy again?
I could certainly see a pre-game scenario where it was decided to try to consolidate money on one scum via an All-in and scum counterclaim.
TL;DR Version: Lane, you just made the scummiest move so far, and not just because it's the only big one.
Then you would just hammer if people refused to switch, you wouldn't really lose anything.In post 62, RedCoyote wrote:In post 24, Infinity 324 wrote:{quibixes, MoI}
{s_s, lane}
{mm, persivul}
{infinity}
I like s_s's plan, you could threaten to hammer the person if people refuse to switch.
You can threat all you want, but you need to carry weight behind said threat. Otherwise, it's meaningless. I'm not committing to voting anyone over something like this.
I agree with this, lane looks impulsive and a little selfish but almost too obviously so to be scum.I really like this question and thought process. I hadn't considered any money shenanigans, but it makes sense that the scum may want to pool their money together under one person if they can, especially given how everything costs more than $500.
Does this necessarily point to lane as scum though? I'm thinking no. lane strikes me as the impulsive type. I don't get the feeling that his bet was part of a gambit, but it's something to still consider going forward.
Any reason for this?I'm electing not to vote at this time.
RC's post made me take second look at this -In post 27, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Secondly, it may be in towns interests to play as many hands as possible to build up money. If you're town and you're bad at poker you should probably say so.
lolIn post 69, MagnaofIllusion wrote:zero scum game
In post 60, Persivul wrote:mod, when we get to a showdown, I assume all hands involved are shown. Is this correct?
Agree.In post 59, MagnaofIllusion wrote:I find it suspect that you just assumed an immediate All-In would not possibly get called. Especially given you told Pers "I'm not going to win". If anyone calls then odds are overwhelming that one person ends up with $1,000 plus in their bankroll immediately. Which if they are scum is not good for Town.In post 53, lane0168 wrote:@magna. I'm not sure I understand the question. I didn't want to consolidate money into anyone's hands but my own. I didn't expect anyone to call. I want money to get the benefits of getting money. So why am I scummy again?
I could certainly see a pre-game scenario where it was decided to try to consolidate money on one scum via an All-in and scum counterclaim.
may very well be a lie to get some more players to put their money in. I certainly think it is asinine to all in on a 13 player card game and expect no one to call you. There are to many players at the table to go hard without the hand to back it up. If he has a shit hand then he very well could be trying to shift his money over to another scum.In post 44, lane0168 wrote:Because I didn't think anybody would call. I was wrong