EBWOPIn post 249, House wrote:Misspelling:In post 244, Grendel wrote:Actually House my issue isn’t that you prefer playing as scum. Its that your post reads like you aren’t taking this very seriously. Mainly what sticks out to me is the intentional (?) misspelling in answer one, the joking in answer four, and the lack of any elaboration in answer five. Together it looked like you’re just screwing around. That said, I’m bad at tonal indicators so I may have been too dismissive of your response to my questions.
Are you enjoying the game thus far?doubt it was intentional. Slang
Joking: So what?
Elaboration: The questions were answered as put forth. If you want elaboration, phrase them better.
I was absolutely screwing around, but that doesn't change the fact that my responses were honest. Anyone that knows me can vouch for that.
And yeah, the game has been fun.
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BBmolla (2): Robbnva, Elyse
Vedith (2): BBmolla, cmitc1
Masquerade (2): ChaosOmega, Egg
Elyse (1): BlankFace
Grendel (1): Wake88
Robbnva (1): House
Egg (1): Vedith
ChaosOmega (1): Masquerade
No Vote (2): Grendel, Hoopla
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He used RQS as town, felt successful with it (whether he actually WAS or not is irrelevent) and brought it here. Then he did a good job of outlining why. It feels genuine. He really believes he is doing a good thing for town.
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Elyse, I'm torn on 197. I agree with Vedith asking you why you would back off your Scumread, because I think if you suspect someone you should give voice at every opportunity. His latter two questions felt slightly underhanded. Initially I wanted to back Vedith against you over your Scumread of him in response to his 183. But, when reading his two latter questions they do feel Scummy to me.
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With respect Egg, I play at my own pace. I would ask you to respect that please. Also, I no longer do Reads Lists. This applies to all current and future games.In post 256, Egg wrote:Hmm. So no reads yet?-
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I'm honestly curious, and would really like you to go on on this please.In post 261, Egg wrote:Ehh, it was probably just that three posts in a four post block were yours right at the start of the game and then the smilie and the way I read your tone.-
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Enough to know he's a solid asset when he's town.In post 255, Wake1 wrote:House, how much experience do you have with Egg?
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I would but there really isn't more.In post 262, Wake1 wrote:
I'm honestly curious, and would really like you to go on on this please.In post 261, Egg wrote:Ehh, it was probably just that three posts in a four post block were yours right at the start of the game and then the smilie and the way I read your tone.-
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Here now. Sorry for being inactive. Really tired because I didn't sleep. Had a party and then mod-duties and then it was 8am so I just stayed up.
3 Nothing. I gave up asking at some point..In post 201, Grendel wrote:3) Then what are some positive things that others have said about your previous plays?
5) Elaborate?
6) What does trusting others have to do with play style?
(You're fine with me abbreviating your name to Mask right?)
5 I get paranoid as either alignment but as town it leaves me more confused because I don't know who my team is. That's also why I like mason/neighbour as roles..
6 You know what, I may not understand what you mean with trust/buddy. I was assuming it was kinda what Molla and House were doing with the mason-claiming? Like you pick someone you can read and test how they respond to it. (I was also assuming they know each other reasonably well, I could be wrong) And that's not my style of getting reads.
(ye np, it usualy becomes masq but I'm good with a k too)
Everything you ask is already answered. I already said my weakness is being emotional. I tend to get more emotional as town, because I'm the one being betrayed (in my mind)In post 208, Egg wrote:Masquarade, you said that what followed Grendel's RQS was boring. What do you think of those who refused to answer? I also noticed you didn't list any strengths. Do you really not know of any? Because you said you prefer playing scum and "sort of" change strengths and weknesses with alignment and it kind of feels like you had scum strengths in mind that you didn't want to share. How do you know your strengths and weaknesses change without knowing what your strengths are?
Robb's response to Grendel's RQS seemed exaggerated to me.
Huh? Do I know you?In post 242, Robbnva wrote:Post game we will see what we see and if masq is scum I'll be surprised he let those questions trip him up.
Don't agree here. Grendel is still null for me based on that he has yet to commit to any sort of read and I don't know him well enough to be able to judge whether he's genuine.In post 252, Egg wrote:He used RQS as town, felt successful with it (whether he actually WAS or not is irrelevent) and brought it here. Then he did a good job of outlining why. It feels genuine. He really believes he is doing a good thing for town.
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You can't be serious?In post 252, Egg wrote:He used RQS as town, felt successful with it (whether he actually WAS or not is irrelevent) and brought it here. Then he did a good job of outlining why. It feels genuine. He really believes he is doing a good thing for town.
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No. what about that makes you think that?In post 265, Masquerade wrote:Do I know you?
I mean we've played together before but that's irrelevant.Proudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.-
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Masquerade: No response to my post 182?
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Don't agree with the push on Molla, but it looks like that's fading away anyway. Not a huge fan of Vedith right now. 154 reads awkward, like he's trying to force light-heartedness to pressure to appear town. Elyse already touched on 183, going to post the exchange:In post 208, Egg wrote:Chaos, any thoughts that aren't about Masquarade?
In post 178, Vedith wrote:
More like he's stubborn.In post 162, Elyse wrote:And then when I called him out on it he realized he fucked up and there's nothing else for him to do. He's caughtscum who needs to hang.
Not feeling the Molla wagon from such a weak reason.
Anyone else on him? I mean, he has plenty of posts to look into.
And if so, what's your view on his multiple posts of being Mason.
Obviously he's giving different information on them, but what motive do you think he has with it from a scum side (what you believe him to be).In post 181, Elyse wrote:I don't share Hoopla's townread on Molla but I'll back off since it seems like no one else sees what I see.In post 183, Vedith wrote:Wait, why would you back off your scum read?
Surely you would want to convince us right now? Or are you happy to lynch outside of your scum reads?
183 is a false dichotomy. "Surely, you would want to push forward with this case even though pretty much no one else is on board? Or are you happy lynching whomever?" Seriously Vedith, what information were you looking for with the answer to that question? If she stays on, she's pushing by herself with a weak reason, and if she leaves, she's lynching outside her scum reads.In post 197, Elyse wrote:
Obviously I'm not happy to lynch outside my scumreads. These are terrible questions that make you look like you're scumhunting when you're not.
I'm not going to continue with my "BB lied and is scum" case because multiple people are saying he's stubborn town. It's a black and white thing that I can't really convince people on. Either you think he's lying scum or frustrated, stubborn town. Continuing that line of attack is useless. I'm going to pursue him in other ways if he continues to be scummy.
Scumread on Vedith
Vedith, who is your biggest scumread that isn't Elyse?Is it any wonder things seem so awry? We swim in a sea of confusion and don't have to think to survive, so nobody listens!-
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Anything scum can do, town can do better.In post 270, Robbnva wrote:Smh
So basically scum can fool you by asking rqs at the beginning of the game. Noted-
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Nope, I usually don't like RQS. I think this is the first time I've townread someone for it. That's why I questioned him about doing it in the past. He just happened to have a very genuine answer. Usually, I get "I do it every game" which is obnoxious because you can't get a read from it. But the whole trying it once and liking the result as town, then doing it here. Like I said, he genuinely believes he's doing something that helps town. And whether he's right or not, that's a town mindset.-
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Do you think me continuing to push "BB was caught in a lie, he's caughtscum" is useful if no one feels the same way? It's literally just me repeating myself over and over again. I've laid out the evidence and BB even admitted he was wrong. I don't know what else to do. Follow me or don't.In post 257, Wake1 wrote:Elyse, I'm torn on 197. I agree with Vedith asking you why you would back off your Scumread, because I think if you suspect someone you should give voice at every opportunity. His latter two questions felt slightly underhanded. Initially I wanted to back Vedith against you over your Scumread of him in response to his 183. But, when reading his two latter questions they do feel Scummy to me.
Vedith, would you please provide feedback?
That was just such an easy thing to jump on for scum and Vedith of course took that opportunity.-
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In your experience, is this just as relevant for experienced scum as it is for caught scum in early d1?In post 273, Elyse wrote:"BB was caught in a lie, he's caughtscum"
I have him the benefit of doubt because my memory is shit and I get crap wrong as town that I'm then pressured as scum for, myself.
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