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FakeGod Seven-Colored Puppeteer
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Last edited by FakeGod on Tue Jul 26, 2016 2:17 am, edited 1 time in total.My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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callforjudgement Microprocessor
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Err, that setup is broken. There's likely a guaranteed town win, although I haven't found one yet; I have, however, found a strategy that gives town 94.4% EV, which is still way too high.
EDIT: Two possible fixes:
(Less favoured but would still work) Increase the number of paths town has to survive to 6, rather than 5. This is probably still somewhat townsided, but not by as much, and also has the disadvantage that luck is probably more important than scumhunting.
(My preferred option) Increase the number of paths town has to survive to 7, but place a bias on the randomizer between paths (I suggest that each day, you announce two paths, one with a 70% chance of being the safe path, and one which is safe only the other 30% of the time). This should have more scumhunting involved than the previous option (because scum will have to decide if they're townread enough to lie about the 30% path being safe, and town will have to decide how many times they're going to ask for a second opinion). I'm not sure where the balance is but it isn't obviously broken. Note that in this version of the setup, a 2:2 or 1:1 endgame should not be an automatic scum win (town should have the chance to guess their way to the end of the setup even if they can't lynch anyone any more).scum· scam · seam · team · term · tern · torn ·town-
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McMenno they/themOne For Aren't-We-Allthey/them
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Creature Solve This Game
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Vedith Survivor
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FakeGod Seven-Colored Puppeteer
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I'm happy that you've thought about this CJ.
I'll bump it up to 6 paths, and invite you to bring me your best winning strategy.My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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callforjudgement Microprocessor
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FakeGod Seven-Colored Puppeteer
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Either is fine.My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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SirCakez he/himIs A Liehe/him
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Game Name:Marvel Dual Universes uPick
Game Type:Theme
Game Size:9 players
Bastard?:No
Hydras Allowed?:Yes
Other Restrictions?:None
Description:
Marvel Dual Universes uPick
This game is a uPick for any Marvel Superhero. During pre-game, players should send in a list of three Marvel Superheroes they'd like to be. Priority for who gets their top picks first will be randomized.
The game will be role madness and will be reviewed more extensively then last time!
The main mechanic is a Dual World mechanic.
Spoiler:Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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KuroiXHF Jack of All Trades
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Ircher is also a pre-in, Marquis.
BTW, please don't send me actual roles. I understand this is probably my error, but please send me a CHARACTER FLAVOR. In other words, don't send me "Vigilante." Send me, "A shoelace-less shoe" instead.
Mod, could you please change my game's name to "Pick Someone Else's Character" instead?-
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KuroiXHF Jack of All Trades
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Zyf Mafia Scum
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Top 2 scumreads end of day one must go on different pathsIn post 535, FakeGod wrote:I'm happy that you've thought about this CJ.
I'll bump it up to 6 paths, and invite you to bring me your best winning strategy.
Top townread person distributes the others so that 4 go on left and 5 go on right or the other way around or whatever
As long as a town player ends as leader town is super likely to win."They don't think it be like it is, but it do." -Oscar Gamble
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FakeGod Seven-Colored Puppeteer
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Your winning strategy seems vague.
I'll be looking forward to seeing it in action.My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
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KuroiXHF Jack of All Trades
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Zyf Mafia Scum
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If everyone's path of choice is predetermined by someone else and announced to the other, scum has to either die or immediately become outed the next dayIn post 546, FakeGod wrote:Your winning strategy seems vague.
I'll be looking forward to seeing it in action."They don't think it be like it is, but it do." -Oscar Gamble
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Marquis Survivor
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shaddowez He/HimMafia ScumHe/Him
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Game Name: 09:12
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Description:http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=09:12V/LA on Weekends-
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callforjudgement Microprocessor
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I'm pretty sure the setup is still broken but at this point I'd prefer to break it in-game. I'd advise only signing up if you're comfortable with playing to breaking strategies, because aiming to play the setup "normally" is highly likely to lead to a scum win.scum· scam · seam · team · term · tern · torn ·town-
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Ircher He / Him / HisWhat A Grand IdeaHe / Him / His
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Game Name:The Grand Idea: UMake
Game Type:Semi-Open Theme
Game Size:9
Bastard?:Yes, as it uses roles from the Grand Idea Mafia thread.
Hydras Allowed?:99% of the time, the answer will be no. All requests will be evaluated on a case-by-case basis and I must approve of both heads. Further restrictions will also apply if I allow any hydras in a game.
Other Restrictions?:You must have made at least 3 posts in the Grand Idea Mafia thread in MD. Furthermore, you must have posted at least 1 town and 1 anti-town (TPR does NOT count) role. WOTM is in effect, and I reserve the right to reject anyone who I feel does not have a reasonable enough ISO in the Grand Idea Mafia thread.
Description:A setup will be made by randomizing roles from a player's ISO in the Grand Idea Mafia thread. The setup will be rerolled if any overtly overpowered roles (as determined by mod discretion) are rolled, or if town does not make up a majority, or if no group scum faction exists. Once the setup has been rolled, the role list and player list will be randomized and roles will be given. There will be no flavor. Balance is definitely not guaranteed.Last edited by Ircher on Sat Jul 30, 2016 3:59 am, edited 2 times in total.-
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Zyf Mafia Scum
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/in MisleadIn post 554, callforjudgement wrote:/in Mislead
I'm pretty sure the setup is still broken but at this point I'd prefer to break it in-game. I'd advise only signing up if you're comfortable with playing to breaking strategies, because aiming to play the setup "normally" is highly likely to lead to a scum win.
LET'S BREAK THE GAME--TOGETHER
inb4 we're both scum"They don't think it be like it is, but it do." -Oscar Gamble
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qubixes Goon
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The problem is that you can't force scum to take a different path and since they know the safe path, there will be 2 scum in the game permanently. Thus, you need 3 town players to survive 5 paths, assuming that the town wincon takes precedence over the mafia wincon at 6 successful paths. I haven't found a strategy that is even close to game breaking, but maybe I'm just an idiot...In post 545, Zyf wrote: Top 2 scumreads end of day one must go on different paths
Top townread person distributes the others so that 4 go on left and 5 go on right or the other way around or whatever
As long as a town player ends as leader town is super likely to win.
@FakeGod: What is going to happen with mafia players that have scumclaimed by taking another path than that they said they would. It doesn't seem much fun to have them around for as long as the game goes on... Especially not for the mafia player. I'm sorry if I'm cluttering up the thread.-
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Zyf Mafia Scum
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You immediately know if they're scum if they take the path that you didn't tell them to and live to the next dayIn post 557, qubixes wrote:
The problem is that you can't force scum to take a different path and since they know the safe path, there will be 2 scum in the game permanently. Thus, you need 3 town players to survive 5 paths, assuming that the town wincon takes precedence over the mafia wincon at 6 successful paths. I haven't found a strategy that is even close to game breaking, but maybe I'm just an idiot...In post 545, Zyf wrote: Top 2 scumreads end of day one must go on different paths
Top townread person distributes the others so that 4 go on left and 5 go on right or the other way around or whatever
As long as a town player ends as leader town is super likely to win.
@FakeGod: What is going to happen with mafia players that have scumclaimed by taking another path than that they said they would. It doesn't seem much fun to have them around for as long as the game goes on... Especially not for the mafia player. I'm sorry if I'm cluttering up the thread."They don't think it be like it is, but it do." -Oscar Gamble
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podoboq Mafia Scum
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I agree. It looks breakable. I want to break itIn post 554, callforjudgement wrote:/in Mislead
I'm pretty sure the setup is still broken but at this point I'd prefer to break it in-game. I'd advise only signing up if you're comfortable with playing to breaking strategies, because aiming to play the setup "normally" is highly likely to lead to a scum win.
/in misleadeagerSnake - "Fwiw mod steals pagetops while driving. Still think they wouldn't put in 2 people with ascetic?"-
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callforjudgement Microprocessor
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I've spent the last two days trying to break it, including asking FakeGod a bunch of rules questions.
The hard part is that identifying the scum doesn't win the game for town; even if you lynch them both, you still need a townie to survive to D7 to win. This pretty much rules out Zyf's strategy because although it's good at getting rid of scum, it leads to the remaining group of townies being too small to finish.scum· scam · seam · team · term · tern · torn ·town
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