Mini 1816: Magical Girls Mafia (Game Over)

[Natirasha]

(@muffin)

[KuroiXHF]

I am town. zmuffin, are you town?

I too am town. For some reason your post really stuck out to me as town. No sarcasm intended.

Omg 5 pages already

This is the first thing that pinged me. It seemed like a lot of nothingness. It's like, "Yeah I see what's going on and no, I'm not going to do shit about it."

I am town. zmuffin, are you town?

I too am town. For some reason your post really stuck out to me as town. No sarcasm intended.

This pings me. Why try to jump in here and grab a way to posture yourself as town?[/quote]
1. I like to be townread
2. I'm town
3. Lightweight trying to get killed early but gonna be as helpful and townie as I can until then[/quote]
Constantly trying to reassure us that he's town does the opposite to me.

Who do you prefer heat

And asking us who we all should lynch does not come across well. I don't think he wants to lynch anyone who's not him.

[Wisdom]

That's pretty weak, especially your last part which was obviously trying to get Heat express a stance.

[Wisdom]

I don't understand what your first point means either
As for the second, lots of townies like to say "I'm town".

[zMuffinMan]

I don't know...you're a little weird, Mister. But, you're talking to me and that makes you nicer than most of these people!

I think you should trust him, Nene.

If Clara-ring says it's so...yes!!

oh, goodie

can i speak to clarion directly or do I have to go through you?

if the former, does nene have any enemies, clarion?

oh, and mister is far too formal, please call me chris

[KuroiXHF]

That's pretty weak, especially your last part which was obviously trying to get Heat express a stance.

It's annoying when people keep telling me my case is weak. It's day one. I go with the scummIEST person I have. Want me off him? Find me someone scummier.

I don't understand what your first point means either
As for the second, lots of townies like to say "I'm town".

He's said it more than once.
And what I meant by the first point was that he appeared to be playing a spectator page rather than actually participating and finding scum.

I mean the towniest thing I found by Zakk is him wanting to lynch Muffinman but for all I know, he's just early on his bussing.

[Varsoon]

Pieguyn~, your push lacks any fangs, man.
Why even go after Zakk and Natirasha?
They seem like low-hanging fruit that others have voiced negative reactions to so far.
It seems like a really safe bet.
Your push there hasn't really generated any content that's made reading either of them easier.

So what's the deal, man?
You gonna actually break out the rope and put them on a wagon to lynch or are you going to keep pussyfooting around with these soft taps that you call pushes on folks that we already agree there's a problem with?

[zMuffinMan]

it's like you're staring into my soul varsoon

[Varsoon]

While I appreciate you playing Natirasha's game with them, it seems like a spent effort in pulling metaphorical teeth out of that slot.
Why indulge their self-afflicted post restriction? Why not just browbeat them into actual engagement with the game?
At this point it seems like meeting them on their ground is a masturbatory affair, like talking to a child in their own made-up language. Don't stoop. I'm not about it.

[Varsoon]

You're not earning any good-boy points by enabling their shitposting.

[Varsoon]

There won't be tendies for you at the end of this rainbow.

[zMuffinMan]

Why indulge their self-afflicted post restriction? Why not just browbeat them into actual engagement with the game?

what self-afflicted post restriction?

wait a minute...

nene, have you been playing me for a fool this whole time?

[zMuffinMan]

i don't have an issue with nene being like she is

bigots like you and wisdom can't be allowed to talk down to people like that

[Natirasha]

oh, goodie

can i speak to clarion directly or do I have to go through you?

if the former, does nene have any enemies, clarion?

oh, and mister is far too formal, please call me chris

Nooo!! I would never have enemies, how would we achieve world peace if people hate each other??

I don't smell danger just yet, Chris.

[Natirasha]

wait a minute...

nene, have you been playing me for a fool this whole time?

Fooling...you? I don't know, just because I'm a cyborg doesn't mean that I'm not the same as everyone else! Why doesn't anyone understand us, Clara-ring!

[Honey Moon]

Noting that Nati ignored my question.
Even tho muffin asked something similar and she replied to him.

[Natirasha]

Noting that Nati ignored my question.
Even tho muffin asked something similar and she replied to him.

Oh, I'm so sorry! I didn't mean to ignore you, miss moon! I was just getting sooo caught up in making friends I missed it!

[pieguyn]

Pieguyn~, your push lacks any fangs, man.
Why even go after Zakk and Natirasha?
They seem like low-hanging fruit that others have voiced negative reactions to so far.
It seems like a really safe bet.
Your push there hasn't really generated any content that's made reading either of them easier.

1. if I wanted to hard push either of them at this point, I would. I'm not aiming to do that right now, though. there are certain things zakk is doing that are indicative of scum that I don't want to let him know he needs to fix; my aim there is to wait and see if he continues displaying the behavior I'm reading or if it was just one isolated early-game instance of it. the Nene read is the same, though I feel less strongly attached to it than the zakk read.

2. even outside of that, you're actually just flat-out objectively wrong about this. I took issue with zakk ever since his first posts in the game and I'm pretty sure I'm the first (outside of zakk) who raised concern with Nene. in fact, if it wasn't obvious by now, Nene was the person I was scum reading all the way back on like page 3 or so who I kept secret.

[Varsoon]

@Pieguy: So... your defense of yourself is just as nebulous as TNE's rubbish. "It's a secret." "I was secretly scumreading them first, too!" C'mon.
I'm not going to just give you a pass because you are waving your hand. I don't fall for jedi mind-tricks.

Why indulge their self-afflicted post restriction? Why not just browbeat them into actual engagement with the game?

what self-afflicted post restriction?

wait a minute...

nene, have you been playing me for a fool this whole time?

i don't have an issue with nene being like she is

bigots like you and wisdom can't be allowed to talk down to people like that

I can't seriously believe that you think Nene's restriction is real and that you're staging this as wisdom/I are bullies for not going along with their cutesy rubbish. Build up the false narrative as much as you want, but I know you aren't this naive.

[Varsoon]

Besides holding out any real reason for scumreading the slot while you sit and wait for them to provide you with behavior you haven't mentioned, what are you trying to do here, Pieguyn?

[SirCakez]

Cakez is fucking right about zakk's posts. it's a lot of shallow commentary that isn't really showing any critical thinking, and seems more engineered to look like he's doing things when he isn't.

things i'm doing which are town

1. creating activity
2. creating conflict (rubbing people the wrong way, reaction testing people)
3. taking strong stances on things
4. attempting to clear people as town so we can PoE

things i'm doing which are scummy

1. shallow commentary? where... ?

...you bein' dumb.

This is completely terrible, he's barely doing any of the things he's listed and most of them are NAI anyway (1, 2, 3)

Pieguyn~, your push lacks any fangs, man.
Why even go after Zakk and Natirasha?

I could see Nati as low-hanging fruit (we're all waiting on real content from her) but how is zakk low hanging fruit?

[pieguyn]

Besides holding out any real reason for scumreading the slot while you sit and wait for them to provide you with behavior you haven't mentioned, what are you trying to do here, Pieguyn?

I believe I've made it quite clear what I'm doing here, and to be blunt, I don't buy your recent posts. you're blowing both this and zmuffin's response to Nene *way* out of proportion.

[Varsoon]

@Cakez: Zakk's playstyle often runs on the side of being scum-read. His earnest effort typically looks anti-town to me. Pieguy giving him shit for 248 is a perfect example of this.

@Pieguyn: Oh, that's nice. Someone finally takes a hard stance in this game that isn't popular sheeping and you don't buy it? Radical. This conversation sure is going places.

[Varsoon]

Look, I'll buy that you're actually scumreading these slots, Pie.
I'll buy that you're sitting on something you can't share at this moment.
That's all dandy.
But I'm not happy with how you're just placating things and discouraging me from taking a hard lean.
We've got 12 pages. I'm not going to have some super great case on anyone. All I can do is find what does stand out to me and stick by the feelings I have about it.
If that's overreacting, then I propose that proper scumhunting means overreacting to things. Something rubs you wrong. You go back to the kitchen and discover you left the oven on. Now your house hasn't burnt down. These are the precautions that we must take.

[SirCakez]

But he usually only puts in earnest effort as scum from what I've seen of him (._. )