New York 196: My Game, My Flavor Mafia (Mafia Win)

[kraska77]

if kraska is trusting A50, I should be clear according to A50's claim so by extension I should be town in her eyes.

No if i trust a50 and shannon is cleared then ure the only possible scum obviously because the day u got jailed was the only day there was no NK

[kraska77]

But why the remaining scum would target an announced jk target is beyond me...

[kraska77]

I really need to go now
Dunno how to do VLA ribbon

[Zachstralkita]

if kraska is trusting A50, I should be clear according to A50's claim so by extension I should be town in her eyes.

No if i trust a50 and shannon is cleared then ure the only possible scum obviously because the day u got jailed was the only day there was no NK

Why have you not selfvoted?

A50 jailed me two days in a row.

[implosion]

I just realized.

@Mod:

@mod Can a Mafia member use a factional kill and individual action on the same night?

Can't tell ya.

Are you sure you can't? Because (quoting from the rules for normal games):

Mafia must specify which member is performing the factional kill each night. Mods may choose whether or not to allow Mafia power roles to perform their action as well as their factional kill on the same night or not, and should list this choice in their rules

So this information should be in your ruleset.

[Zachstralkita]

At least, that's what I recall happening. A50, is my memory fucked?

[kraska77]

Oh he did?
Kill me i have no clue what's going on
VOTE: kraska

[implosion]

please stop.

We're thinking this through.

[GuyInFreezer]

So this information should be in your ruleset.

I also said later that I put them in my ruleset <.<

This game contains Mafia Daytalk.
In this game, the last surviving mafia may use both factional kill and his ability at the same time.

[implosion]

ah i'm stupid.

[implosion]

Well meh. So then a50 can have stopped the vig kill and also killed dunn in theory.

Ugh.

[shannon]

If the claimed jk is scum then none of us are cleared, since he would be lying about results at least some
Of the time.

Sorry on mobile as my house internet is down

[implosion]

if kraska is trusting A50, I should be clear according to A50's claim so by extension I should be town in her eyes.

why aren't you clearing kraska and shannon based on this though. They're also clear if they're non-strongman scum. You're the same level of clear as they are.

[shannon]

But why the remaining scum would target an announced jk target is beyond me...

Just remembered I can use my phone as a hotspot

I reckon the scum is the claimed jailkeeper and therefore knew exactly who to target. No one else would have expected the JK target to be unprotected.

[Zachstralkita]

if kraska is trusting A50, I should be clear according to A50's claim so by extension I should be town in her eyes.

why aren't you clearing kraska and shannon based on this though. They're also clear if they're non-strongman scum. You're the same level of clear as they are.

Then maybe there is a strongman amongst them. I wouldn't put it out of the realm of possibility.

[Zachstralkita]

No, that is the truth since you are confirmed and I believe A50.

I'm pretty sure we win if we lynch inside kraska/shannon.

[Zachstralkita]

A50's initial claim did not indicate a scum gambit to me. That is my decision so now the solution is clear to me.

[shannon]

if kraska is trusting A50, I should be clear according to A50's claim so by extension I should be town in her eyes.

why aren't you clearing kraska and shannon based on this though. They're also clear if they're non-strongman scum. You're the same level of clear as they are.

Yeah based on this, anyone who A50 has cleared is the same level of clear. Unless A50 is scum, and then none of us is clear. Like Zach if you're town, you're like 'yeah, A50 cleared me and since I'm town he was totally on the ball, I bet one of those other VT claims is the scum'. But the problem is that all of the VTs think the same way. If we accept that all PR claims are true, I'm looking at you or Kraska, because I was 'cleared' by A50 and I know it's not me.

If A50 is scum it's a pretty clever tactic to have claimed to have protected me and taken out the other PR. Now we're less likely to risk lynching A50 (since he's our last claimed PR) and everyone is confused about who the scum is.

[Zachstralkita]

not me.

If A50 is scum it's a pretty clever tactic to have claimed to have protected me and taken out the other PR. Now we're less likely to risk lynching A50 (since he's our last claimed PR) and everyone is confused about who the scum is.

Implosion is here, so A50 is not the last claimed PR. That point is null.

[shannon]

OK, sorry, but the general vibe still stands. He's managed to take out another PR and we are less likely to lynch in the PR group because their numbers are dwindling.

[implosion]

No, that is the truth since you are confirmed and I believe A50.

I'm pretty sure we win if we lynch inside kraska/shannon.

And what do you make of the negative motion detector result on shannon?

[Zachstralkita]

No, that is the truth since you are confirmed and I believe A50.

I'm pretty sure we win if we lynch inside kraska/shannon.

And what do you make of the negative motion detector result on shannon?

Was there one on kraska too? No? THENNNNNNNNNNN WE HAVE A ROPE WINNER DING DING DING DING

[shannon]

But wasn't Kraska JKed and a kill still went through?

[Zachstralkita]

But wasn't Kraska JKed and a kill still went through?

Strongman.

[shannon]

What stops you from being a strongman?