Newbie 1723 - Game Over!

[Vecna]

Solid catching up posts faalcon. I agree with pretty much all of it, except the part where u state we cant lynch E's slot today due to a replacement.

[Vecna]

Also if im not mistaken, EVERYONE in this game has stated desire to hammer Goodmorning now (or at least stated that theyre strongly scumreading her). While this unified thinking can be positive, its at least slightly worrying that noone is defending her so far

[Ircher]

Day 2 VC #7

Vecna (0) -
Nic (2) - Vecna, Loop
Harry (1) - Morning
Skold (0) -
Loop (0) -
Goodmorning (2) - Skold, Nacho
Nacho (0) -
Not Voting (2) - Nic, Harry

Lynch Threshold

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch!

Deadline

Day 1 ends on August 3, 2016 5:30 PM EST DST+1 or in (expired on 2016-08-03 17:30:00).

Mod Notes

Deadline extended 24 hours.

[Dirty Harry2]

I want Nictherat to roleclaim.

[Vecna]

23 hours remaining, tic-tac

[Vecna]

Stuff im still expecting (oh look at me being hopefull) within the next 23 hours:

-A short list of allignment reads of everyone in the game from Nictherat, Nacho and Goodmorning
-A more thorough catching up post from NictheRat
-Those answers from Goodmorning ive been waiting on since forever -1
-Some goddamn participation in general since its EOD2 and we still havent managed to get tons of shit that was promised by several people

[Loopdan]

Faalcon, in 749, you made this comment:

Loopdan analyzes the lynch. I agree with what is said, but that "I know Franky was town, you don't" looks LAMIST. Plus we knew Franky was town.

How do you

know

Franky was town? When I use "know" I mean 100% confirmed, which is only known to me at this point, as I replaced into that slot. What do you mean by "know"?

[Loopdan]

I want Nictherat to roleclaim.

Then why haven't you voted him?

[Loopdan]

Also if im not mistaken, EVERYONE in this game has stated desire to hammer Goodmorning now (or at least stated that theyre strongly scumreading her). While this unified thinking can be positive, its at least slightly worrying that noone is defending her so far

Did you mean to say e_is_cool, because you said goodmorning?

I haven't stated a desire to lynch goodmorning.

[Vecna]

Guess i was mistaken again then. Anyways we need to decide between these two candidates. As I've stated before I'm fine with either but i prefer my current vote

[Dirty Harry2]

I want Nictherat to roleclaim.

Then why haven't you voted him?

VOTE: Nictherat
THIS IS L-1.
NO ONE QUICKHAMMER.

[Dirty Harry2]

Day 1 VC (LYNCH)

Vecna (2) - Nacho, Earth
Skold (1) - Parabola
Earth (5) - Vecna, E_is_cool, Skold, Rb, Franky
Not Voting (1) - Harry

[Dirty Harry2]

Deadline in 9 hours.
Post as much as you can now.
Otherwise you will be D3 lynch-bait.

[Dirty Harry2]

Stuff im still expecting (oh look at me being hopefull) within the next 23 hours:

-A short list of allignment reads of everyone in the game from Nictherat, Nacho and Goodmorning
-A more thorough catching up post from NictheRat
-Those answers from Goodmorning ive been waiting on since forever -1
-Some goddamn participation in general since its EOD2 and we still havent managed to get tons of shit that was promised by several people

- Goodmorning's latest position on Nacho +1


UNVOTE: Nictherat
EoD cold feet.

[Faalcon]

Faalcon, in 749, you made this comment:

Loopdan analyzes the lynch. I agree with what is said, but that "I know Franky was town, you don't" looks LAMIST. Plus we knew Franky was town.

How do you

know

Franky was town? When I use "know" I mean 100% confirmed, which is only known to me at this point, as I replaced into that slot. What do you mean by "know"?

By "know", I mean he was completely confirmed town to me, with #428 and #448 and his EOD1 as a whole. He did nothing that could be seen as even neutral (exceot the hammer, but even that was understandable). So I used "know", which was still an overstatement.

I'm waiting for nic and morning to do things. My vote stays where it is for now, but I'm okay with hammering either.

[Loopdan]

DH, how do you expect nic to roleclaim if he isn't at L-1? I am puzzled by your unvote.

We have less than 8 hours left. I will be back before deadline, but I have little faith that the scum-read slots will. There are essentially four of us who seem to be generally town-reading each other that are also active (Faalcon, DH, Vecna, me). Yes, I'd very much like the others to get here and give reads and votes and expose their opinions for review. However, if the others stay away the rest of the Day, we can decide the lynch without them.

In that event, who are you (Faalcon, DH, & Vecna) most comfortable lynching as the game stands right now?

My lynch preference (in order):
nic
nacho
morning

[Ircher]

Prodding goodmorning (2d 22h). Morning has (expired on 2016-08-04 10:32:33) to respond.

[goodmorning]

I tried to post V/LA three different times Monday but apparently none of them took. So:

V/LA til tomorrow.

[Loopdan]

I tried to post V/LA three different times Monday but apparently none of them took. So:

V/LA til tomorrow.

You do realize the deadline is in 7 hours, and people are asking you to comment and engage, right?

[goodmorning]

Is it? Shit. I'll do what I can but I don't have much time.

[Dirty Harry2]

DH, how do you expect nic to roleclaim if he isn't at L-1? I am puzzled by your unvote.

We have less than 8 hours left. I will be back before deadline, but I have little faith that the scum-read slots will. There are essentially four of us who seem to be generally town-reading each other that are also active (Faalcon, DH, Vecna, me). Yes, I'd very much like the others to get here and give reads and votes and expose their opinions for review. However, if the others stay away the rest of the Day, we can decide the lynch without them.

I believe nearly everyone has stated a scum-read/suspicion of Nictherat/e.
I am cautious of both an early hammer and the possibility of half the playerlist not showing up for deadline again.
I feel like Nictherat should roleclaim NOW regardless.
We then have 6 + hours to react.
I know exactly who won't be NK'd tonight.
I feel like we will have a repeat of D1, so I wanted the roleclaim early.

I tried to post V/LA three different times Monday but apparently none of them took. So:

V/LA til tomorrow.

You may be lynched later, so good luck for now, and hope we play again.
FYI: regardless of your alignment, that post about your suspicion of me has killed you.
You will likely be lynched for it, either today or tomorrow.

[Loopdan]

I know exactly who won't be NK'd tonight.

Who and why?

[goodmorning]

@Nacho 706: That's not what I expected, given 1305.

This not what you expected, based on a game three and a half years ago? Interested in hearing your line of thought here.

NewbScum play doesn't really change the way the rest of site meta does.

"I'd expect him to have" - and that is where your game falls short.

What is a reaction test but a gambit that you

expect

one alignment to react to one way and the other alignment to react to a different way?

True.
I do agree we come into this game with our own preconceptions on how scum and town should behave.
However, I felt you were transfixed into reading every thing I was saying as possessing scum-motivation.
(Many points I think were non-alignment indicative).
Is there even 1% doubt/hesitancy/paranoia/conflict in your scum-read of me?
You have come into this game attacking the top two town-reads...
(That is not scummy).
But it is the reasons why you have done this, which is troubling me.

I can admit that I may have accidentally confbiased myself a bit; your play isn't as like to mine as I assumed. I have to set the bar explainier for you and recalibrate. I still scumread you just now but I don't want to lynch you today (not that I'd be able to anyway (deadline etc.) but still).

Stuff im still expecting (oh look at me being hopefull) within the next 23 hours:

-A short list of allignment reads of everyone in the game from Nictherat, Nacho and Goodmorning
-Those answers from Goodmorning ive been waiting on since forever -1
-Some goddamn participation in general since its EOD2 and we still havent managed to get tons of shit that was promised by several people

- Faalcon is definitely Town. Loopdan is almost definitely Town. Everyone else ??? DH is still Scum but on the upswing, Nic has destroyed any goodwill I had towards e, my mostly-gut scumread on you is holding steady, and I have many bad feels about Nacho which I'll touch on below.
-I expected Nacho to go after you for the "woe is me, we lynched badly" thing. He didn't. If I had time I'd go back and meta his games with me where he says something about how I sometimes make dumb pushes as Town (it's happened once or twice iirc) but I don't so...
-I've been dragged places nonstop since Sunday night because Monday was my birthday, and I have my accounting final today, so WHOOPS. At least I didn't make any promises though.

- Goodmorning's latest position on Nacho +1

Latest position: can we quicklynch him?
(I know this is going to look like OMGUS, guys, I'm not dumb. It's not OMGUS. You can either believe it or not.)

DH, how do you expect nic to roleclaim if he isn't at L-1?

Because it's deadline and the rules get looser then.

@Vecna: I'm going to try to find the questions post now and answer them properly.

p-edit: me, probably

[goodmorning]

How about you answer the following:
-You've made some insinuations regarding me and my playstyle. Do you scumread me? If so, why?
-You've also been mentioning E_is_cool in passing, but only to the extent of wanting to see more of him, and complaining about people that talk much more because they "drown out the few posts made by E" (just paraphrasing here). How do you feel about E? What do you think his allignment is, and what makes you think that?

Yes; mostly gut.
I answered the e one in 674. You still haven't answered my questions btw :[

[goodmorning]

WIFOM: If I were Scum I'd be studying rn.

Also, where are all of you?? COME BACK AND TALK SO MY TIME ISN'T WASTED