I saw your claim that you would claim if people don't back off, is that what you are talking about?In post 1943, Bins wrote:omg does no one read
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This is really premature to be claiming that you will claim. You saying you will claim if people don't get off you back is kinda what you are suppose to do. You are basically claiming PR without saying which one. I find that kinda convenient of you. If you are claiming you are PR then you are basically already dead, so what's the point?In post 1947, Bins wrote:
yes??In post 1945, LicketyQuickety wrote:
I saw your claim that you would claim if people don't back off, is that what you are talking about?In post 1943, Bins wrote:omg does no one read
and so you vote me?
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What other PR do you think there are this game? We are likely dealing with a TTT setup. That means there is a 1-shot cop, a 1-shot vig, an IC and a Doc or RB. That is where I am putting my money right now.In post 1950, Bins wrote:Zach I seriously can't take this
can we please lynch LQ
LQ how the heck is this convinient for me
do you think i want to be doing this
i think i have been softing it for a really long time
i'm just frustrated we have so many good possible lynches and postie descides hey lets do bins shes DEFFO SCUMMO
also like RC selfvoting just made me super apathetic that i have to play with that antitown shit
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i dont think softing is THAT BAD rn because it helps other PRs determine numbers and maybe figure out the scum layout/if GF is possibleI was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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No, its not. Not until another day has passed at least.In post 2017, RadiantCowbells wrote:I have my reasons for wanting a massclaim. it's going to happen.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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Let me get this strait.. You are voting me because I don't want mass claim today? Shitty reason is shitty.
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Frankly, IDGAF if you are voting me. That is not a reason to vote someone. What I said ie. not wanting mass claim is not even Scummy, so wtf gives?In post 2021, RadiantCowbells wrote:I will make a mass claim happen.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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No, we most certainly are not mass claiming today. The ONLY time Mass claim should happen is when it solves the game. This will just cause way more WIFOM than needed.In post 2040, RadiantCowbells wrote:We are massclaiming today.
If I explain my reasons it will hurt the value of the massclaim.
And fuck if it wouldn't be amazing for town if you got nightkilled.
Be advised I'm not ruling out a dav/bins team just yet.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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I'm not claiming until I'm at L-1. Vote me all game like a stubborn mule, see if I care.In post 2071, a plain farmer wrote:Everyone on the list is potential scum, but Ranger is the least-potential scum.
But whether we even massclaim or not should be determined by Ranger, as well as the order. While we're waiting on her to get back to the thread, let's go ahead and get Lickety up to L-1.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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We need another flip.In post 2073, davesaz wrote:So remind me who you think is scum?
I'd be fine lynching RC (prefered), Postie, a plain farmer or Ranger, in that order.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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Needless to say, we need a town block at this point, which we don't have.
I suggest lynching RC because Mass claim this early is a bad idea so I view it as Scummy and don't buy for a sec that RC has some master plan to catch Scum with a mass claim. I mean really, what can RC come up with that is actually an original idea here? I don't want the UnCCed PR claims lynched, as well as the IC and I am not voting for myself. As I see it, either Dav and bins are the last Scum, knowing there are some free PR claims, or they are Town and I believe the latter at this point.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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Because you're most likely to be RC's scumbuddy.In post 2076, Postie wrote:Why am I your second biggest scumread?I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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Look this is RC's first interaction with someone, me. All this post does is explain away excuses for in RC's words, lynching Iva because they hadn't caught up. If that's not scummy IDK what is.In post 1073, RadiantCowbells wrote:I am explaining why things are the way they are so that people who play like I do can understand where my current play comes from and hopefully understand that I'm town for it.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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Basically it is Scummy because RC can just go right out and say they weren't caught up, but then why the vote at all on Iva? RC gave no reasons for that vote as far as I can see, so I see that as extremely opportunistic.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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Asks for a full case.. I have never EVER seen RC do a full case on anyone.
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You first.
Actually, since RC wants mass claim so bad, maybe they should lead by example?I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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In post 1815, Postie wrote:I'll try and get some catch-up stuff in before threadlock.
In case I inexplicably die - LQ is town. RC is probably also town but I have no idea why.In post 1816, RadiantCowbells wrote:
scumclaim.In post 1815, Postie wrote:I'll try and get some catch-up stuff in before threadlock.
In case I inexplicably die - LQ is town. RC is probably also town but I have no idea why.In post 1824, RadiantCowbells wrote:Tentative VOTE: Postie but I think she would have killed me overnight.In post 1848, RadiantCowbells wrote:here's an easy one: there's a below 0% chance that I would have made that nightkill if I were scum.In post 1849, Postie wrote:Why?In post 1880, Postie wrote:RC, if town's awful enough to lynch you today then your reads will likely be ignored after you're dead.In post 1881, Postie wrote:Also we're not lynching RC.
This is every interaction between RC and Potsie. Nowhere is any pressure they put on each other real in any sense of the word. RC has literally 0 follow through in there engagement with Potsie, and Potsies Town read of RC seems to come out of thin air.In post 1884, Postie wrote:Alright this is what I'm looking at right now
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Obviously Ranger moves up if we're confirmed to not have a godfather.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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Sorry about the name thing, but I am pretty sure you are Scum with RC at this point. With RC's fake pressure and blatantly fabricated votes on you and you Town read on RC for no reason makes me believe this.
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Well, I guess if you're not scum at least we can call you a poor sport, how does that sound?In post 2092, RadiantCowbells wrote:I will not be doing anything besides prod dodging while LQ is alive regardless of the massclaim status.
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What is your point here? I am suppose to magically read you as Town because someone else did?In post 2095, RadiantCowbells wrote:Bins stopped pushing on me and LQ didn't.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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OK, I admit I'm a poor player.. WTF is your point? I rather be a poor player than a poor sport any day.In post 2097, RadiantCowbells wrote:I am perfectly happy being called a poor sport as long as if you're town you admit that you're a poor player. There is no reason whatsoever to scum me right now and tons of reasons to townread me.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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This looks a lot like pushing an agenda.In post 2109, a plain farmer wrote:So are we lynching LQ or massclaiming? If there's a chance we lynch anyone other than LQ I'd like to massclaim. But Bins and Ranger are scumreading LQ and they're yet to vote him so I think this LQ lynch should be good to go?I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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My, my. I don't think I've ever played with anyone more bossy.In post 2300, RadiantCowbells wrote:VOTE: LicketyQuickety
Back to L-1. You can go before Dave. Claim in next post or lynched.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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Permission? WTF?In post 2308, RadiantCowbells wrote:Zac, you have my permission to hammer LQ since he hasn't claimed.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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I don't like you.In post 2311, RadiantCowbells wrote:
Claim then.In post 2310, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Permission? WTF?In post 2308, RadiantCowbells wrote:Zac, you have my permission to hammer LQ since he hasn't claimed.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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Lynching me because I don't want mass claim is not Scummy for me, but terribly Scummy for you.In post 2313, RadiantCowbells wrote:Regardless of my reads (which are pretty fucking amazing let's be real), regardless of my alignment, I'm the most mechanically skilled player in this game. No one in this game is about to contest that.
Did you ever think that maybe, if you understood the game like I do, you would understand that no matter what was going on the correct move would be to massclaim today?
Great, because I don't particularly like you either. If you'd rather get lynched than play this game than that's your prerogative, but I am finishing the massclaim or getting lynched trying.I don't like you.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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Why is it the best move for mass claim today? I don't believe you've offered a singly shred of evidence for this.In post 2314, RadiantCowbells wrote:Like this isn't a choice. This is the fact that it is objectively the correct move to massclaim today and I'm shocked that Bins of all people who has as much setup info as she claims to hasn't seen it.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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You're leaving out an important detail, even if given your crazy unrealistic hypothetical of a bargain which never ever works in my experience. You left out if I get lynched.In post 2317, RadiantCowbells wrote:I don't give a shit what's scummy. I am making the mass claim happen because it's the objectively correct move. I have no qualms lynching you if you're going to stand in the way of a town win.
Explaining it would reduce some of the value of it.Why is it the best move for mass claim today? I don't believe you've offered a singly shred of evidence for this.
I will tell you what. Claim. If I can't argue an extremely strong objective case for why it was the correct decision after the fact, you can lynch me and I won't trash talk you in postgame.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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Wrong again. I don't want you in MyLo I want you dead long before then.In post 2320, RadiantCowbells wrote:If you get lynched and are town I vent some of my frustration with how difficult this has been and I am likely to end up in MyLo where the massclaim will end up happening anyway.
If you get lynched and are scum I am fine with it.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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Who is doing a PL?!?! I have no idea how you dreamed that one up. the only PL that can be thought of is you wanting to lynch me because I don't want mass claim, and even that is a stretch.In post 2323, RadiantCowbells wrote:Like when you're either obnoxious sucm or town who is trying to push a policy lynch on the me in my last game it doesn't incline me at all to respect you, take your reads seriously, or want to see you kept alive.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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Because you are Scummy.In post 2325, RadiantCowbells wrote:If you're claiming that your push on me is not in fact a policy lynch, then why is it a thing? Why am I scum, LQ?I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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I'm sorry what? Its not my decision to make? WTF? Like it is me actually playing my slot, if its not my decision who's is it?In post 2330, RadiantCowbells wrote:That's not your decision to make when you're at L-1 unless you're willing to be lynched for refusing to cooperate.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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I do not fear death. Death is just another part of the journey.In post 2332, RadiantCowbells wrote:Ours, because we have the power to lynch you if you refuse to claim.
I will claim however, but only because I am going on vacation and will be V/LA from the 28th to the 4th.
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I was thinking bins and dav were masons, which is why bins had such a strong town read on dav. So bins revealing that they are Doc changes things. Dav claims that he knows the setup if bins claim is true. So what I suggest is that dav give the setup info he has knowing bins is Doc and if that can be disproven then we lynch dav. Basically if Dav is right it takes away safe claims from Scum since the other PR can verify that Dav is correct through self identification of their own PR's. But basically how I see it is we have one of Two setups. If bins claim is accurate and dav's is not we have a 1-shot vig, a 1-shot Cop, a Doc and an IC is one possible setup. That would give us TTT, which would make Ranger Town. This would also make dav Scum. The other possibility if bins and Dav's claims are accurate then we would have a T Setup.
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Now you don't want Mass claim? Is that what I'm getting from this?
RC I think its time YOU claim.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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I was under the impression that if vig is RB then you still use your shot. Am I wrong here?In post 2350, a plain farmer wrote:1-shot vig here. Bins, if you roleblock someone, don't subsequently fakeclaim a target that could only be plausible if you were roleblocked.
I tried to shoot dave N1 (sorry ) but was blocked. And of course I got my man N2.
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Yes, I am, and I said earlier that I don't fear dying. I wasn't just saying that. I am prepared to die for a win. Survival is not the bottom line, winning and having fun is.In post 2355, RadiantCowbells wrote:Oh, sorry. Forgot LQ is also a VT claim.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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Deduction has never been my strong suit.In post 2361, davesaz wrote:DDD is two full docs. Having comprehension problems?
@RC: Did you claim VT? If you did, I missed it. In any case, I'm a full doc.
@MOD: are blocked shots by 1-shot roles refunded?I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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Lets wait for Ranger.In post 2367, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'm pretty sure Ranger claims VT anyway so let's just break this down. If this is T:
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Davesaz town
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Zac town
APF town
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LQ unknown
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If this is TTT:
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So Postie who I've been wanting to lynch since the beginning is pretty much scum either way.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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Even if that is true, it doesn't make you Town.In post 2378, Postie wrote:This is literally nothing like my scumgame.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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GF has its uses. Vig that doesn't lose its shot is rediculous, that much is true.In post 2385, Bins wrote:
GF is broken as well. As well as a 1-shot Vig that doesn't lose its shot.In post 2383, LicketyQuickety wrote:DDD is pretty broken, not going to lie.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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Lets wait for Ranger.In post 2393, RadiantCowbells wrote:If you think that I'm town, Postie, LQ is confscum fypov. But I'm not losing this game and I'm certainly not losing it to you.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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No, it doesn't. For one, meta can change. Second of all Night chat can have a huge impact on how a slot is perceived and that means Scum can talk about how they present themselves in the game. With a little knowledge from someone else, meta can make a complete 180.In post 2400, Postie wrote:
Why? It kinda does.In post 2379, LicketyQuickety wrote: Even if that is true, it doesn't make you Town.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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Could you be any more obnoxious?In post 2409, RadiantCowbells wrote:Yes your reads sucked deal with it.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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It says it does in the OP.In post 2416, davesaz wrote:Actually it isn't a 100% 1v1, as scum and sk could have double killed.
@MOD please verify, doc protects only one kill?
I know, silly question but I really believe in being extra safe.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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This post is horrible.In post 2457, Bins wrote:
oh and I totally forgot this was another main reason I thought dunn would be the NK targetIn post 1128, Dunnstral wrote:Don't forget i'm spicing things up day 2
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Because you are saying because Dunn said that they were going to spice things up Day 2 means anything at all. It just means that Dunn is prolly just saying that thinking they are actually going to spice things up and play different when they really prolly don't have the capacity to. Like it it common sense. Do you really think Dunn has the ability to make a big change like that, cuz I sure don't. The only other explanation I can think of is that Dunn said that to try and draw a NK, but I don't really put much faith in that considering the type of person Dunn is.In post 2460, Bins wrote:but why is it horrible?I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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Not at all. I gave my reason which has to do with reading the person behind the action, something you utterly fail to do if you are Town. Also, I don't buy that Dunn way someone who should have been the obvious NK. I think Scum should be looking to kill a lurker ie someone who doesn't give a lot of info from their Kill or someone who is a strong candidate to be a PR or someone who had really good reads and I believe Dunn was none of these things.In post 2464, Bins wrote:either way how does my interpretation of that post make me scum?? looks like pulling opportunistic reasons out of your buttI was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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