STEVEN UNIVERSE 2 - GAME OVER

[Almost50]

and no one else should. Firebringer, you should bring him back to l-1.

See? I told you this is scum!! Why would we put someone with that role 1 vote away from being lol!hammered??

[Not Chara]

That's pretty much NAI.

if we're waiting for cakez to show up and claim shit.

why would you claim shit for him before he shows up.

Cuz I'm trying to save us from a MISLYNCH. This is not a NAI ability to me. It's TOWN. If it was scum it means scum will ALWAYS have access to an extra vote and "maybe" another extra vote. Also, I know my own alignment, so when someone with THAT ability allies with me I KNOW they're FRIGGIN' Town. They could've just allied with their own scum buddy and guaranteed the extra vote use.

I tried to deter you from voting SC in every way I can while NOT confirming him so he won't be shot at night instead. I kept him low in my reads to make use of that extra vote ability to keep him safe (when that vote reflects on the VC you'd be more suspicious, which means he is still considered a viable lynch for the scum, which means he is not NK'd, which means I get to have one conf!town that I can actually communicate with for a couple more days. Someone who might be willing to listen to me and my crazy stuff when everybody's brushing me off.

SirCakez id CONF!TOWN to me.

strong town is not confirmed town. one extra vote that cannot hammer and cannot be used in lylo and mylo is not even close to gamebreaking. attempting to read this claim as town for that when it has been stated that all town roles and fake roles for scum sound town is a fool's errand.

there are 25 players in this game. we have seen one puddle of abilities in a lake of them. do not be making these kinds of assumptions. if you're town.

[Not Chara]

and no one else should. Firebringer, you should bring him back to l-1.

See? I told you this is scum!! Why would we put someone with that role 1 vote away from being lol!hammered??

i'm now convinced Almost50 is town.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

@NC, No one thinks they would change their reads for power, but they convince themselves by townreading the person who gives them the power. It's not far from that to sheepage of scum, especially when the ability requires it.

Skybird didn't have to sheep Cakey I believe.

Since Farside cannot see reality smacking her in the face, she needs to be shown what she's doing here.

When her sole justificationis I am delusional, which is the same line scum is pushing and completely ignores Mastina and RR, yes she does need to see what she's doing.

This is abnormal for Farside.

i was speaking to both of you. this argument is not helpful. pick it up later, perhaps, but you aren't going to get anywhere now.
please trust me on this. i've gone through this situation too many times over

myself

in a single game.
or perhaps that makes me uniquely

unqualified

to talk about it. haha.
then again, you know each other personally, so perhaps i can't understand.

I refuse to write Farside off as unreasonable, I respect them too much.

[Not Chara]

oh, i sent that without finishing what i was going to type.
he's convinced me that his belief in the mythical power of Cakez's role is genuine. the 'i'm now convinced Almost50 is town' was intended as a joke. by using town as synonymous with 'misguided'. i... don't really know where i was going with that joke, honestly.

...i'm going to take a small break.

[Almost50]

Literally no one else has claimed BP?

Our alliance is semi BP
A few others hinted

That's because of me you dingus

Actually it's bc of BOTH of us. SC made us all BP, and I made us all immune to actions from outside the alliance (but unfortunately we also can't target anyone outside the alliance).

So, you've been double protected by this alliance, FB. This very alliance you've been treating like garbage!

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

@almost50, thoughts on me CCing Cakey?

[Not Chara]

@NC, No one thinks they would change their reads for power, but they convince themselves by townreading the person who gives them the power. It's not far from that to sheepage of scum, especially when the ability requires it.

Skybird didn't have to sheep Cakey I believe.

Since Farside cannot see reality smacking her in the face, she needs to be shown what she's doing here.

When her sole justificationis I am delusional, which is the same line scum is pushing and completely ignores Mastina and RR, yes she does need to see what she's doing.

This is abnormal for Farside.

i was speaking to both of you. this argument is not helpful. pick it up later, perhaps, but you aren't going to get anywhere now.
please trust me on this. i've gone through this situation too many times over

myself

in a single game.
or perhaps that makes me uniquely

unqualified

to talk about it. haha.
then again, you know each other personally, so perhaps i can't understand.

I refuse to write Farside off as unreasonable, I respect them too much.

anyone can be unreasonable if the mood strikes them. i'm saying to wait. emotions are tricky.

...this is all moot, as the argument will stop as soon as Cakez flips. one of you will be right. that's why i don't understand why you're fighting about it now.

[farside22]

@NC, No one thinks they would change their reads for power, but they convince themselves by townreading the person who gives them the power. It's not far from that to sheepage of scum, especially when the ability requires it.

Skybird didn't have to sheep Cakey I believe.

Since Farside cannot see reality smacking her in the face, she needs to be shown what she's doing here.

When her sole justificationis I am delusional, which is the same line scum is pushing and completely ignores Mastina and RR, yes she does need to see what she's doing.

This is abnormal for Farside.

i was speaking to both of you. this argument is not helpful. pick it up later, perhaps, but you aren't going to get anywhere now.
please trust me on this. i've gone through this situation too many times over

myself

in a single game.
or perhaps that makes me uniquely

unqualified

to talk about it. haha.
then again, you know each other personally, so perhaps i can't understand.

I refuse to write Farside off as unreasonable, I respect them too much.

Very unreasonable.
How dare I not just blindly sheep everyone else.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Literally no one else has claimed BP?

Our alliance is semi BP
A few others hinted

That's because of me you dingus

Actually it's bc of BOTH of us. SC made us all BP, and I made us all immune to actions from outside the alliance (but unfortunately we also can't target anyone outside the alliance).

So, you've been double protected by this alliance, FB. This very alliance you've been treating like garbage!

Great, scum don't want to kill any of you because you've been that terrible.

[Not Chara]

@almost50, thoughts on me CCing Cakey?

i'm compelled to say i also overlap with Cakez somewhat.

we're all being very vague, so this means almost nothing. :>

[Not Chara]

Almost50. could you have

chosen

when you activated this event? why would you do it on the first day if you were trying to build a townblock?

[farside22]

Literally no one else has claimed BP?

Our alliance is semi BP
A few others hinted

That's because of me you dingus

Actually it's bc of BOTH of us. SC made us all BP, and I made us all immune to actions from outside the alliance (but unfortunately we also can't target anyone outside the alliance).

So, you've been double protected by this alliance, FB. This very alliance you've been treating like garbage!

Great, scum don't want to kill any of you because you've been that terrible.

Can't be maniputed.
Yeah I'm pretty sure i have a greater shot to die then many others.
There hadn't been a flip.
I can't wait till day 2.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

@almost50, thoughts on me CCing Cakey?

i'm compelled to say i also overlap with Cakez somewhat.

we're all being very vague, so this means almost nothing. :>

And I am not rolefishing replying here.

[Almost50]

A50, did you know about the BP thing too? If you did, why didn't you corroborate his claim that he should ally with mastin, given your townread on both slots?

-Cerb

No, I didn't. SC didn't claim anything about his role details. what I did know is the extra vote bc that was evident (mod confirmed). I was told in my PT with SC that if we both vote the same person that a third vote would be added, and it was announced (by Varsoon) in the Joy Ride PT as well that if all 5 of us voted the same person that we would get an extra 6th vote. Neither could be used to hammer though (the extra votes). It only took me to put 2 and 2 together to figure it was SC's role, but I kept my mouth shut (I didn't even mention it to HIM) bc I wanted him to do his thing naturally. It was enough for me to know he was town and that was it.

[farside22]

Also I told cakez to do something he hasn't done and I hinted it would help him.
Scum not taking that offer I'm about 99% sure he's town.

[SirCakez]

I didn't see your post in the PT until just now farside, to be fair

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Hey I am replacing Seraphim. I will try to catch up as soon as I can.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Also I told cakez to do something he hasn't done and I hinted it would help him.
Scum not taking that offer I'm about 99% sure he's town.

He cannot because a) that's vague and b) he's scum and c) by you even making that offer, you would interpret anything he did as town. Either he changes in protown reads or he fails and you post this.

[Not Chara]

Hey I am replacing Seraphim. I will try to catch up as soon as I can.

welcome to the game. i suggest protective gear. :>

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Hey I am replacing Seraphim. I will try to catch up as soon as I can.

Welcome, an SU game isn't complete without fuzzy.

[Almost50]

Regarding Varsoon giving the role to scum: absolutely possible. The BP thing is, in and of itself, probably NAI(particularly given the mechanical ability to bypass BP at low stress).This is part of why I want to know what knowledge of SC'S role A50 and/or the members of the Joyride had, to see how said knowledge may have forced his hand in terms of his play.

-Cerb

He didn't say anything about it in either PTs. None of us were made aware of it until he claimed it here.

P-edit:

Welcome to the game, TheFuzzylogic99

[Not Chara]

I didn't see your post in the PT until just now farside, to be fair

...who are you trying to be fair to, SirCakez? should farside not be townreading you? is town!you really in a position to be telling those townreading you... to not do it for this reason.

i'm having trouble articulating myself. how do i explain that this post is exceptionally scummy?

[farside22]

I didn't see your post in the PT until just now farside, to be fair

And this is town.

Let's play let's make a deal Titus.
I'm feeling a bit pissy with you.
I feel you need to take your arrogance down a notch.
So here is my deal and it will be fair.
If I'm right you can't not only stop arguing day 2, you need to sheep my read day 2.
If your right I eat my words, call my reads bad and sheep you day 2.
Here is the thing, you don't comply I vote you and refuse to move till your dead.

[Not Chara]

A50, did you know about the BP thing too? If you did, why didn't you corroborate his claim that he should ally with mastin, given your townread on both slots?

-Cerb

No, I didn't. SC didn't claim anything about his role details. what I did know is the extra vote bc that was evident (mod confirmed). I was told in my PT with SC that if we both vote the same person that a third vote would be added, and it was announced (by Varsoon) in the Joy Ride PT as well that if all 5 of us voted the same person that we would get an extra 6th vote. Neither could be used to hammer though (the extra votes). It only took me to put 2 and 2 together to figure it was SC's role, but I kept my mouth shut (I didn't even mention it to HIM) bc I wanted him to do his thing naturally. It was enough for me to know he was town and that was it.

i should probably give up trying to explain what is wrong with this. you are all remarkably set in your ways.