Open 654 | Surrealism - Game over

[Zachstralkita]

In other news BlackStar votes Umlaut for being competent.

[BlackStar]

I don't understand why you're doing nothing but taking pot shots at me. It's really annoying

[Zachstralkita]

I don't understand why you're doing nothing but taking pot shots at me. It's really annoying

Now you're not the only one.

What was addressed was that BlackStar strawmanned and deflected what Umlaut conveyed better in #176 than apparently I have in all my posts. I'm quite sure we all know how " strong " his scumread is. No one is feigning ignorance of anything at this point.

Keep using random buzzwords, pal

As convenient as it would be, words don't become random buzzwords just because you don't understand them and would rather not admit it. Continue acting like a dipshit, please. You now have the attention that you've been vying for.

[BlackStar]

Seriously though, stop doing this passive aggressive shit and just stick to stating facts.

[Zachstralkita]

I think I'll pass.

[BlackStar]

Then I'll probably pass on reading your posts from now on.

[Zachstralkita]

You do realize you saying I'm only taking potshots at you and then directly after that telling me to state facts is hypocritcal because I have been doing other shit? My ISO is not soley composed of attacks on you by any stretch of the imagination. And you'd be mistaken if you think I'd do nothing but address you as we move on, like I enjoy doing shit for no reason.

[Ümläüt]

Dunn is always tunneling Zach, I wouldn't make anything of it myself. When someone says they're "40% sure" as the basis for a vote it's kind of dumb to take it seriously.

You called me out in tic tac toe mafia too for "being too analytical"

Honestly I forgot you were in that game. I think I was mostly joking though (and that was a fairly weird setup in that it encouraged lynching people you didn't really think were scum).

Still dislike Umlaut; he's scum.

Page 8 is way too soon to have a strong scumread, but page 10 is just right.

Don't care for MeowMix's re-entrance. Comes in like he's doing something, but just starts a new wagon on someone with no real suspicion. Makes no effort to comment on anything else that has happened.

MeowMix's entrance didn't exactly give me a warm feeling but it did give me a new perspective on Gamma, which qualifies as "doing something." Re. "no effort to comment on anything else," do you actually believe this is a scumtell?

[Mimikyu]

You do realize you saying I'm only taking potshots at you and then directly after that telling me to state facts is hypocritcal because I have been doing other shit? My ISO is not soley composed of attacks on you by any stretch of the imagination. And you'd be mistaken if you think I'd do nothing but address you as we move on, like I enjoy doing shit for no reason.

FYI your abrasive brand is bad for town if you are a townie.

[Mimikyu]

Still dislike Umlaut; he's scum.

Page 8 is way too soon to have a strong scumread, but page 10 is just right.

Who spoke of strength?

Don't care for MeowMix's re-entrance. Comes in like he's doing something, but just starts a new wagon on someone with no real suspicion. Makes no effort to comment on anything else that has happened.

MeowMix's entrance didn't exactly give me a warm feeling but it did give me a new perspective on Gamma, which qualifies as "doing something." Re. "no effort to comment on anything else," do you actually believe this is a scumtell?

For MeowMix it doesn't feel good. It feels like someone entering the game, pretending to be an active participant, but avoiding getting involved with anything with any real weight.

[Ümläüt]

Who spoke of strength?

You said flatly "He's scum." That means you think I'm probably scum, though you seem pretty uninterested in making this case. See 120 where you're just like "read my other posts" when Aubrey asks you to explain your read.

For MeowMix it doesn't feel good. It feels like someone entering the game, pretending to be an active participant, but avoiding getting involved with anything with any real weight.

For MeowMix

it doesn't feel good? But, what, for someone else it might?

In general, do you find effort to be alignment-indicative? Because I don't.

[Aubrey]

What would you rather them talk about if you have agreed with Dunnstral in the fact that previous talks have been a big fat nothing? I see nothing wrong with them trying to progress the game further with a new take on something. The only thing I think they could go into more detail on is who they think maybe townies up until this point.

when you say

Still dislike Umlaut; he's scum.

it's easy to assume its a strong read.

Pre-Edit: Seems we are on a similar page Umlaut.

[Aubrey]

You do realize you saying I'm only taking potshots at you and then directly after that telling me to state facts is hypocritcal because I have been doing other shit? My ISO is not soley composed of attacks on you by any stretch of the imagination. And you'd be mistaken if you think I'd do nothing but address you as we move on, like I enjoy doing shit for no reason.

FYI your abrasive brand is bad for town if you are a townie.

I agree with this though. There isn't a need to call someone a dipshit in this game. This is like the third post now in this game that I personally found a post to be a bit harsh. Nobody really wants to play a game if people are going to be saying things such at that.

[Gamma Emerald]

Who spoke of strength?

You said flatly "He's scum." That means you think I'm probably scum, though you seem pretty uninterested in making this case. See 120 where you're just like "read my other posts" when Aubrey asks you to explain your read.

For MeowMix it doesn't feel good. It feels like someone entering the game, pretending to be an active participant, but avoiding getting involved with anything with any real weight.

For MeowMix

it doesn't feel good? But, what, for someone else it might?

In general, do you find effort to be alignment-indicative? Because I don't.

What I want everyone to answer is:
Do you find MeowMix's asking about my opinion on voting me alignment indicative?

[The_Jester]

I liked it. But no.

[Ümläüt]

VOTE: Mimikyu

This is a good vote for two reasons.

First, he's scummy. His stated positions are all over the place. He makes me his top scumread based apparently on one vote on Jester (this is the only reason he's giving, and when asked to explain his read he says "look at my posts"). He thinks that Aubrey is scummy, Blackstar is scummy for scumreading Aubrey, that anyone attacking Blackstar is scummy. He's eager to argue about minutiae (refused to let me drop the topic of "is rejecting townreads a towntell") but reluctant to sell his actual reads.

(Interestingly, his reversal on Aubrey and scumread on MeowMix both came right after they said they had a problem with Gamma. It's obviously too early to seriously hunt for associations but I want to note this for future reference.)

Secondly, he's given a lot of general opinions on good and bad ways to scumhunt, and if he's scum I wouldn't be surprised if some of these "bad ways" are the ones that would point to him

or his teammate.

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On an off-topic note, anyone who finds Zach abrasive can't have played many games here. I had to go back to see what you were talking about.

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Pedit:

Gamma, why did you quote my post there? Your question has nothing to do with it really.

Also, no I don't.

[Mimikyu]

Who spoke of strength?

You said flatly "He's scum." That means you think I'm probably scum, though you seem pretty uninterested in making this case. See 120 where you're just like "read my other posts" when Aubrey asks you to explain your read.

It's still early. I still think strong words are better for reactions than sitting closer to the fence.

For MeowMix it doesn't feel good. It feels like someone entering the game, pretending to be an active participant, but avoiding getting involved with anything with any real weight.

For MeowMix

it doesn't feel good? But, what, for someone else it might?

In general, do you find effort to be alignment-indicative? Because I don't.

No of course not, but this has little to do with effort. It has to do with the illusion of effort.

What would you rather them talk about if you have agreed with Dunnstral in the fact that previous talks have been a big fat nothing? I see nothing wrong with them trying to progress the game further with a new take on something. The only thing I think they could go into more detail on is who they think maybe townies up until this point.

What is their new take?

[Mimikyu]

VOTE: Mimikyu

This is a good vote for two reasons.

First, he's scummy. His stated positions are all over the place. He makes me his top scumread based apparently on one vote on Jester (this is the only reason he's giving, and when asked to explain his read he says "look at my posts"). He thinks that Aubrey is scummy, Blackstar is scummy for scumreading Aubrey, that anyone attacking Blackstar is scummy. He's eager to argue about minutiae (refused to let me drop the topic of "is rejecting townreads a towntell") but reluctant to sell his actual reads.

I'm concerned you don't know what it looks like when someone thinks another is scum.

[BlackStar]

@umlaut Calling people dipshits, passive aggressively casting shade on people and acting way too smug isn't abrasive?

[Ümläüt]

@umlaut Calling people dipshits, passive aggressively casting shade on people and acting way too smug isn't abrasive?

"Too smug" is kind of a judgment call.

And yeah I guess it is, but I'm pretty desensitized to it by now. You've been on MS exactly as long as I have, aren't you?

[BlackStar]

Yeah, I've probably played more games than you too. Doesn't change the fact that it's still annoying when people do it. Especially when those people tend to be wrong about everything

[Aubrey]

@Mimikyu: Nobody up until now has said much about Gamma that I recall. This to me is a new take on things, cause they could just have parroted something that has already occurred. If you are unsatisfied with Meowmix's lack of responding to current events, then maybe it wouldn't be such a bad idea poke and prod them.

@Ümläüt: There really isn't a need to be abrasive in this game. However, @Blackstar even you've been abrasive when you say a post is stupid and what not.

[Ümläüt]

I'm concerned you don't know what it looks like when someone thinks another is scum.

I read this like 50 times and I have no idea what you're getting at.

[BlackStar]

@Aubrey You're right. I say "this is dumb" a lot during arguments. But I try not to call people names and I wouldn't ignore multiple people telling me to stop being toxic

[Mimikyu]

@Mimikyu: Nobody up until now has said much about Gamma that I recall. This to me is a new take on things, cause they could just have parroted something that has already occurred. If you are unsatisfied with Meowmix's lack of responding to current events, then maybe it wouldn't be such a bad idea poke and prod them.

@Ümläüt: There really isn't a need to be abrasive in this game. However, @Blackstar even you've been abrasive when you say a post is stupid and what not.

Sorry I actually misread that first part as talking about Dunnstral before. MeowMix may have had a new take, but it was one that was sure to go nowhere I think. No one else had expressed interest in anything close to a Gamma vote. Just felt like adding to something knowing that it would likely be brushed off.